Shrooms - I tripped but Tripping Partner didn't???

[Mr Chips]

Hi All,

I recently convinced a family member try have some with me.

I am a fairly experienced user, having tripped on shrooms maybe 30-40 times, at doses ranging from 2g-8g in the last 3 years.

This was my tripping partners first experience with ANY drugs, and she was not on any medication.

We consumed 2.3g each from the same batch of dry shrooms.

Within 20-30 mins I was slipping nicely into fairy land, but my partner remained completely unaffected. This remained for the duration of the trip. By which time I was having a clear +++ experience.

She decided against taking more, worried that she may just have a very delayed reaction, but in the end she had absolutely no trip whatsoever. The only affect reported was @ one point feeling hot and cold simultaneously. We both had an average meal approx 3 hours before the trip.

I was completely confused, which only added to the humour of my experience . Anyone come across this before?

 

[skillet]

Did she have an empty stomach before taking them? Did she at least get the yawns/watery eyes?

Or maybe she's just not very receptive to the effects, I'd try again at the same dose, maybe smoke a little weed an hour or so in.

 

[Mr Chips]

Did she have an empty stomach before taking them? Did she at least get the yawns/watery eyes?

Or maybe she's just not very receptive to the effects, I'd try again at the same dose, maybe smoke a little weed an hour or so in.

Strangely - No yawns, or watery eyes.

As mentioned, we both ate 3hr before the experience.

Unfortunately weed is out of the question, we are not smokers - not even in the slightest.

I was thinking to try @ 3g next time.

 

[skillet]

Ok, I'd still stick to the same dose though, if it works for some reason next time 3g might be a bit much for a first time.

You can vapourise weed, if it's the actual smoking that puts you off.

 

[Solipsis]

Yes I would just try again at the same dose. Were the mushrooms broken down into little bits or pretty much whole? It's possible that your partner accidentally had a few weak ones while you did not. Mushrooms are natural products so they can vary significantly, no mushroom is exactly alike.
If you try again and the exact same happens, either your partner has weak ones again which is statistically of course not likely at all, or it might be personal sensitivity. To get better assurance that you are taking the exact same as your partner you can pulverize / grind / powder the mushrooms or at least make them as small as possible with whatever tools you have in the kitchen or shed. The dose is then more homogeneous and you should have a more equal result from them. Though it is always subjective.

 

[Mr Chips]

Good advise...we'll stick to ~2.3g then.

I understand she may well have got the "weak ones" even though they were from the same batch - but what surprised me was no effects at all, not even threshold effects.

It could well be a statistical anomaly - let's see what happens the next time around!

If he happens again, I might just have to give her a tab of acid instead.

 

[greenmeanies]

as you said it was her first brush with any drugs of any kind, perhaps she was holding on too strongly and thus unresponsive to the effects? perhaps teach her about deep breaths and singing

 

[Solipsis]

It's possible, sometimes drug-naieve users (i.e. first timers) do not know what to look for, so it can be a larger threshold to adapt to the effects, to form an expectation that works in concert with the actual psychological effects.
I have heard before that the comeup can be longer for first-timers, for example with acid. Or that people at a certain point suddenly seem to 'get' it.

 

[perKeceT]

idk man, ive given a friend of mine mushrooms 3 times. always same dose as me. he never trips, like ill be pouring sweat with bugged out eyes and hell be like 'im bored, i dont feel anything'. to me he seems to be a freak of nature. he trips proper on acid, and any other drug hes tried works fine from what i can tell and what he tells me. is it possible somehow a small precentage of people are naturally tolerant to tryptamines or psilocin in particular?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

idk man, ive given a friend of mine mushrooms 3 times. always same dose as me. he never trips, like ill be pouring sweat with bugged out eyes and hell be like 'im bored, i dont feel anything'. to me he seems to be a freak of nature. he trips proper on acid, and any other drug hes tried works fine from what i can tell and what he tells me. is it possible somehow a small precentage of people are naturally tolerant to tryptamines or psilocin in particular?

This is really unlikely - I find that mushrooms are much harder to 'ignore' than acid. either this girl's got the constitution of a brick or she's dead. Like the OP said - you would expect some effect at least. I never got the full effect from shrooms at first - until I did double the dose. so you could always try that, though it doesn't really support the 'harm reduction ethic'.

 

[perKeceT]

This is really unlikely - I find that mushrooms are much harder to 'ignore' than acid. either this girl's got the constitution of a brick or she's dead. Like the OP said - you would expect some effect at least. I never got the full effect from shrooms at first - until I did double the dose. so you could always try that, though it doesn't really support the 'harm reduction ethic'.

seems like its more than unlikely. my buddy has seemingly gotten effects from the mushrooms, but they were very subtle. like maybe a very week pot buzz, never tripped though, and i was always tripping pretty hard and it was obvious we were not on the same wavelength.
EDIT: and too make sure it wasnt just him getting weak ones, we always split ever shroom in the bag in half.

 

[allium]

is it possible somehow a small precentage of people are naturally tolerant to tryptamines or psilocin in particular?

I think it is possible. Everyone reacts differently to the same chemical, and although there is clear trend in reactions of people, paradoxical reactions are possible.

Personally, I have very strange reaction to 4-AcO-DMT(the chemical similar to psilocin/psilocybin in many ways: it is acetoxy ester of psilocin). I have tried 16 different chemicals, total number of my trips is rather small(~35), but I experienced wide enough spectrum of psychedelic effects and have some basis to compare.
And 4-AcO-DMT is the worst and useless psychedelic I ever tried, my reaction to it is almost entirely negative: no real psychedelia, just sense of drugginess, blunting of emotions, irritation, lowered mental activity, no real visuals - just some mild visual distortions. I tried it 3 times: 2 times alone(28 and 22 mg), third one was in combination with 4-HO-MET(10 mg of 4-ACO-DMT + 25 mg of 4-HO-MET). The third time was much better, thanks to 4-HO-MET, but it had undeniable "taste" of 4-AcO-DMT.

You may note: "How can you be sure you get the genuine 4-AcO-DMT?". Well, two reasons:
1) I got my sample from a reliable supplier. Obviously, even professional RC vendors can mess up things. A good hypothesis, but...
2) My girlfriend had very opposite effects, comparing to my experience, she told me: "It is the best psychedelic she tried"(out of 10+ substances).

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And, what's more interesting, this is not the first time I see posts like "shrooms aren't working for me/my friend"... Is it due to incredible popularity of mushrooms, or the reason behind this lies deeper?

 

[caseface99]

One friend of mine trips hard off shrooms, but only mentally. 5 grams and no visuals just the psychological aspect, but acid effects him normally. One time i took shrooms with my girlfriend, 2 hours later she was tripping balls and i didn't feel a thing. I ate some pizza and 5 mins later i went from sober to peaking instantaneously.

psychedelics can and will effect everyone differently every time.

 

[Jesusgreen]

You said your friend isn't on any medication, but what about in the past? SSRIs and similar drugs that affect your 5HT (Serotonin) receptors can really screw with your ability to trip for a VERY long time after you stop using them, the length and severity being influenced by how long you took the medication for, and how much you were taking when you stopped.

Any idea of any past medication they used?

Edit: Also, getting off-topic here, but allium, I know exactly what you mean, and I think I know why you're experiencing this. My trips with 4-AcO-DMT have all either been rather uneventful, or extremely bad recently, I think it's due to stress and such in my life. But the weirdest part, is when I'm stressed or ignoring problems in my life, and I decide to take it, regardless of the dose, my visuals are reduced dramatically, but when I took it before with no worries or anything, I was blown away by the most intense visuals and euphoria.