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Shrooms do you, you dont do shrooms. But can you?

Psychonaut16

Psychonaut16

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As many of you experienced trippers know, Psilocybn mushrooms cause the tripper to go through a variety of emotions and states of mind while peaking; usually it's automatic, as mushrooms tend to cause your thoughts to take you over.

The emotions that I, personally, experience on shrooms are extremes. At one point, I feel extremely giddy and stupid, like when I'm stoned =D. While maybe 20 minutes later, I feel extremely philosophical, analytical, introspective, and I can analyze everyone's personality and see the truth by losing my ego. Then maybe for about 10 minutes I can listen to adrenaline pumping music, regain my ego, and almost become violent with anyone who would cross the line.

How can one tame these emotions on shrooms and use it to their advantage?
(I find LSD to be much more controllable, as it numbs my emotions, but certain emotions I enjoy)
 
im sure some kind of ssri or other antidepressant could turn down the effects, but could tame it to the point it wouldnt be fun. if you would like me to really look into it i can
 
^can be helped by some degree by practice. but honestly it woudlnt really be a 'trip' without that. and if you try to control yourself too much you might end up freaking out
 
Back in the day it was my intention to "practice" tripping properly in order to try to make some sense of what was going on.

It didn't work.

Basiacally once you that EGO loss point...things become increasingly dififcicult to manage from ther. Reality is gone and you have had the entire thing planned out to be aware through the whole experience....but when it comes down to it your brain is drugged and it's not functionally in a good state.


I'm not saying practice may help...but help what really? Just enjoy the experience while it lasts. Though it's wonderful when they do, the trush of the matter is that what you take away from a drug experience can be very interesting...however we live in physical material world where pertty much none of those things come to use.
 
Just don't do shrooms, man. I've done them like 5 times and every time I go through the same hell. I think just this one time maybe it'll be cool, and then I come up and realized that I've just done it again, condemned myself to countless hours of torture.

I always envied how my friends could just take shrooms and enjoy them as if it were just extreme pot. I felt bad that I couldn't just chill out and have a good time like them. It's just one of those things, I'm a cerebral person anyway and those shrooms really bring that out of me even further and my thoughts and feelings literally drive me nuts. I always went to these dark places in my mind where I dwelled on my beliefs about existence and time. There were times in those mushroom trips where I wanted very badly to just shut off.

However, I wouldn't take those times back. A handful of my trips were after my father died and perhaps shrooms gave me some closure. At a certain point I stood up and thought, 'goddammit! I will not be afraid of my thoughts!' and just stopped trying not to think about things that I thought would bother me.

So I guess sometimes if you give into where your mind wants to take you and say, 'fuck it, I'm gonna champion this!', you might actually turn it into a positive trip.

I too found LSD to be more mild and less heady than shrooms, so do that. I did LSD twice and the first time I loved it, second time I had some anxiety but not like with shrooms. Just try to have something to do. When I first tripped acid I watched Pink Flamingos, a truly vile movie from John Waters, maybe if I would have watched something like that or like Salo for mushrooms I would've been okay.:)
 
With more experience you may be able to temper the emotional changes somewhat but that's pretty much just the way a shroom trip "works." Different psychedelics feel different; for most people I know, at least, mushrooms are characterized largely by the roller coaster ride of changing emotions and mental states. You may learn to guide the experience more in a direction of your choosing but I don't think you can really "tame" the experience without losing the desirable aspects as well. If you want more of an LSD-like trip, take LSD instead of psilocin ;)
 
Allow your subconscious to take over and don't be afraid. I mean, why would you be afriad of your own body/mind? Psychedelic drugs allow your subconscious to come out and play to create beautiful landscapes and mindscapes. If you try and limit their fun you can be thrown all around the place, but if you allow yourself to relax and listen you can move through your mind with a sense of ease.

Thanks DMT for the enlightening perspective on psychedelics.
 
party_animal01 said:
Back in the day it was my intention to "practice" tripping properly in order to try to make some sense of what was going on.

It didn't work.

Basiacally once you that EGO loss point...things become increasingly dififcicult to manage from ther. Reality is gone and you have had the entire thing planned out to be aware through the whole experience....but when it comes down to it your brain is drugged and it's not functionally in a good state.


I'm not saying practice may help...but help what really? Just enjoy the experience while it lasts. Though it's wonderful when they do, the trush of the matter is that what you take away from a drug experience can be very interesting...however we live in physical material world where pertty much none of those things come to use.
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To 'practice' means for me to
1) Develop healthy, sensible usage (if 4g is too much of a trip for you to get anything useful out of it, instead of trying again, lower the dose by .5 or 1g) and avoid taking mushrooms whenever your tolerance is gone. I've found my trips are a great deal more meaningful with space. When I was new at all this, I would take an eighth every weekend. This made things become very shallow very quickly, not to say that the fungus didn't rock my shit, it just didn't teach me anything. It's important to realize that mushrooms aren't the best substance to just take when you want to get high.

2) Make a point to spend a day or so integrating the experience, reflecting and thinking about what has just occurred, the spaces you just entered, the things you have just moved through. It's your responsibility to learn from your experiences, fungus induced or otherwise.

3) Enjoy various sets and settings, but make sure they are all conducive to good feelings. This seems obvious in part, but I feel that a lot of people just worry about whether their set/setting are 'good' or not, rather than the overall quality of their set and setting. You may feel equally at home in a beautiful meadow with your significant other, in a soft-lit room with good friends, or otherwise, and these may be 'good' settings, but there is more to it than that. The nature of the set will find it's way into your trip, and your emotional state, all of the things that have happened to you, all the things you think about or have been moving through you will become apparent at some point or another. Just because you're in a good mood doesn't mean you're in a good set, and honestly, I have tripped in a bad mood that I felt was a good set. Mind you, it was a bad mood brought on by stagnation in my life. I took the time one-on-one to reflect with a friend, and we talked and planned ways for both of us to move on.

In summary, there is a lot to take into consideration, but in the end only you can make the decision. My personal recommendation for you is 3g, but that is mine, and what you decide is what you decide.

Good luck, friend. :)
 
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