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Should people go to jail for necrophilia?

I was actually going to bring up the abortion debate as well. It's a good point, but it still doesn't change my mind. This is different from a right to life campaign, as there are no memories attached to the foetus (well, not really) but a body has connected with people and changed people's lives on a much bigger scale.

I don't think there is any disagreement that our belief in respecting/ protecting a dead body is an emotional response, not a logical one, but I don't think that means it's any less valid. As I said, there are expectations about what happens to us after we die. I am sickened by the thought that myself, or someone I love, could be used for sexual gratification after I'm dead. It seems to cheapen that person's life, as well as the memory of that person. As if suddenly, once dead, your life never mattered.

To me, it's not really what the corpse 'used to represent.' For all intents and purposes the body still is the person. They bear the scars from incidents in their life, weight from food they've eaten etc etc. I don't believe we are merely our consciousness. If this didn't matter to us we would just throw the body into the trash.

What other cultures do with their dead is totally irrelevent to me. I've grown up in a country that understands the importance of ritualising death, through cremation or burial, to help the people left behind cope with the loss. If someone interferes with the dead body it is still showing disrespect to that person, even if the dead person doesn't know it.

Anyway, I'm going to bow out of this argument because I can't really justify (properly) why I feel this way.

Good topic though, Raz!
 
^^^^Hmmm, I think that's a pretty good response actually. I'm glad you said it's an emotional rather than a logical response; I can understand looking at it that way. I know I was sad when I found out people had stolen shit from my nephew's grave because of the emotional connection, and that was just material things. I have no doubt I would hate for it to be any more of a violation than that....I also think that's my bias though, and while I personally would want the dude drawn and quartered, from an objective point of view I think he should be treated as a sick person and not as a criminal.

I like the honesty of just out and out saying it's a cultural bias also.
 
Heres a tale- a friend of mine (female) developed an odd discharge problem from the vaginal region. She went to a doctor to get it tested- they promptly called her back in with some urgency, and told her she had an STD only contractable from corpses.

Her boyfriend at the time worked in a morgue.

True story.
 
Say you have an unconventional couple who were into that kind of thing.
Say one of them gave written consent to have their partner fuck them after they died.
Who are we to judge?
Necrophilia isn't actually 'that' unnatural - The female praying mantis eats/kills the male as they are having sex.
There's even this report about homosexual mallard ducks indulging in necrophilia! Lol....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research
 
If a partner agrees to it prior to death I have no problem with it. My main issue with necro is that someone's body is being used for purposes they didn't agree to, not the act itself (although it grosses me out completely.) I mean, we don't take a person's organs unless they give expressed approval prior to their death and doing that could actually save another person's life.

But yeah, this isn't the reason for this thread, it's about whether we should send the offenders to gaol or not. I still say yes.
 
up all night said:
But yeah, this isn't the reason for this thread, it's about whether we should send the offenders to gaol or not. I still say yes.
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No it aint, the title merely says "should people go to jail for necrophilia"?
Necrophilia, (even of the consensual kind) is still necrophilia.
(Sorry to be a smart arse).
We both agree on the same thing anyways.....
 
Hang on a cotton pickin moment here.

If there is an STD that can be collected from dead bodies and dead bodies only then that suggests that this is happenning often enough that more than one person is fucking these corpses. This is just wrong to be thinkin about.

It hurts my brains.
 
^^^Yeah, after my initial shock I started thinking hmmm that sounds more like an urban legend than anything else.

I did a quick bit of research and found this, which is actually not much less disgusting, so be warned y'all:

NSFW:
Instead, Mr. Strand surprised and delighted me by recounting the following tale, which he assumed to be an urban legend:

... A woman (a friend of a friend, of course) met a man while out on the town one night. One thing led to another, as they say, and she ended up having sex with him. Later, the woman fell ill. She went to the doctor, who examined her and announced that she was "infected with corpse-worms" (maggots). A subsequent investigation revealed that the stranger she had slept with was a pathologist in a local hospital. He had fornicated with a decomposing corpse earlier that same day.

Strand informed me that precisely the same thing is alleged to have happened in at least a half-dozen Norwegian towns -- a strong indication that his assumption is correct: it's an urban legend.

Diagnosis: myiasis of the vagina

That said, it's worth noting that the phenomena described aren't completely beyond the bounds of medical possibility. Maggot infestations of living human tissues do occur. The scientific term for it is "myiasis." There have even been recorded cases of myiasis of the female sexual organs, though these are extremely rare.

One case in particular caught my attention as I scanned the medical literature. In the abstract of a study entitled "Vulvar Myiasis," published last year in Infectious Diseases in Obstetrics and Gynecology, researchers summarized "the case of a 19-year-old pregnant girl diagnosed with vulvar myiasis and concomitant syphilis, vaginal trichomoniasis and genital candidiasis." Oh, and she also tested positive for HIV.

The diagnosis of a maggot infestation of the vulva combined with with four common venereal diseases suggests that the myiasis may have been sexually transmitted, too –- another nod toward the plausibility of Tor Strand's Norwegian horror story. One would think the odds against the survival of fly eggs on or in the gentleman's penis between the time of his necrophilic adventure and his encounter with the female protagonist of the story would be quite high, but apparently it's not out of the question.


So it seems that it's highly unlikely (but still possible brrr) for someone to contract an STD from a corpse. There doesn't seem to be an STD though that you could get ONLY from a corpse. So the necro story is an urban legend. Maybe the lady just had maggots living in her veejay. That's much more pleasant. 8o8o8o
 
On second thoughts, that doesn't really answer it so much....the only bacteria that live on corpses though are flesh-eating ones (as far as I know).

Once your heart's stopped beating, you cool within 12-24 hours (assuming you're not in a hot environment), and so I'd imagine most blood-borne diseases would be dead before the end of that first day anyway. Having said that, I did find somewhere it referred to archeaologists catching tuberculosis and syphilis from 100-year old sites because some diseases have an awesome dormancy cycle, so who knows? It's probably best to be on the safe side and as has been suggested, just get a realdoll kids.

Either way, I find it really hard to believe that there would be a sexually transmissable disease which is only sexually transmitted and whose host is a corpse. That just doesn't seem to make sense from an evolutionary point of view, you'd think natural selection woulda sorted that deviant motherfucker out....

On another note, I can't believe I just wrote a harm minimisation piece for necrophiliacs. I used to be such a good boy... :(
 
What messes with my head is what happens when we reach the point where we can transfer someone's consciousness to another body or just a network?

Since you are still alive but with no control over your body, nor any need for the body, would someone fucking it be a crime?
 
There's a reason why until now I have not thought to quote Code Blue by TSOL possibly one of the best songs of the Horror Punk genre. That reason is I'm a brain dead Alco.

This one's for you Raz:

I never got along with the girls at my school
Filling me up with all their morals and their rules
They'd pile all their problems on my head
I'd rather go out and fuck the dead

'Cause I can do what I want and they won't complain
I wanna fuck I wanna fuck the dead

Middle of the night so silently
I creep on over to the mortuary
Lift up the casket and fiddle with the dead
Their cold blue flesh makes me turn red

And I don't even care how she died...
But I like it better if she smells of formaldehyde!
Never on the rag or say leave me alone
They don't scream and they don't moan
Don't even cry if I shoot in their hair
Lying on the table she smiles and she stares
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfCGPnWfKQ
 
I feel that they should go to jail not a maximum security one or anything but maybe to the one that has the best psychiatric help available for them cause if they are doing that kind of stuff then they have got some serious issues that need to be addressed....

In regards to the length that they should be imprisoned for; I think that they should not have a set length but rather they do not get let out until they are over there fetish or disease or whatever you want to call it and after 2 - 3 months of them being free of any of these thoughts then they are let out into society again but with having to see a parole officer once or twice a week.

If I found out anybody was having sex with any of my relatives dead bodies then I would hunt them down and make them the same as what they are 'DEAD!'
 
yes it should be a sex "crime" on the basis that the sexual act is not reciprocated and is non consenting. the living have rights where such acts are concerned; the law shouldnt differ due to rigor mortis. a body, and ones personal rights (especially when in the trusted care of a mortician) dont end entirely in death.

...kytnism...:|
 
kytnism said:
yes it should be a sex "crime" on the basis that the sexual act is not reciprocated and is non consenting. the living have rights where such acts are concerned; the law shouldnt differ due to rigor mortis. a body, and ones personal rights (especially when in the trusted care of a mortician) dont end entirely in death.

...kytnism...:|
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I completely agree. My thoughts exactly.
 
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