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Should parents drug babies on long flights?

parttime crackhead said:
Do folk not sometimes take their babies out for a drive to try & get them to sleep?
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Good point. We did. Don't know what is was but at the age of 0 - 6 months I could be regularly found dodging deer on the A38 at 3am. Trouble is they only sleep for the duration of the journey in my experience. Get back home and it's hair pulling time all over again.
 
parttime crackhead said:
A flight is infinitely more traumatic than a car ride, unless the car does a few hundred miles an hour & bounces up into the sky then comes bouncing back down again. I don't know how you can even question why a flight would be more traumatic to a baby than a car journey.
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i think you've been unlucky with your flights.

once in the air, in my experience, its far smoother than a car, there are no corners for a start. I remember flying as a child, i was totally disappointed. I think i was expecting to feel the wind in my face or something but its no more exciting than being on a bus.

As for take off and landing, thats nowhere near traumatic [ unless you've given birth to some highly strung fragile little freak that should be on valium anyway ]
Children arent that easily traumatised IMO, they fall down stairs, thier parents and nieghbours do DIY, they are exposed to music TV, traffic, they get ill, they go through hot summers, cold winters....blah blah blah

and of course they also experience all this kinda stuff in the womb, in itself a noisy place.

all this intense noise and movement, thier brains soak it up, it is not harmed by it.

that in mind i really dont think a few seconds of being pulled into thier seat on take off and a gentle bump on landing hurts babies.


oh and the issue is, for me, one of consent.

i have seen my eldest child on valium [ she got it from A&E...long story ] when my ex brought her back falling arse over tit and hearing things i was fucking livid, it really messed her up

the idea of doing that to a baby kinda makes me shudder
 
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I didn't say it was traumatic. I said it was more traumatic than a car journey. It makes a fuckload of noise then shoots up into the air. From the inside (unless you have an old banger, a boy racer mobile or drive like a dick) a car is practically silent compared to a plane & rarely hits a 45 degree angle.

Most flights have been sound. Can't say all of them have though. Flying through a thunder storm on the way to Florida wasn't exactly a smooth ride. Plane swaying from side to side while trying to land at Prestwick on the way back from Ibiza, on a monster comedown fresh from Amnesia, was a bit rough as well. Not as rough as actually getting off the plane in Prestwick though.


Anyway, I don't think the point was that a plane journey harms a kid. Just that giving it something to sleep is better for the kid & the other passengers. As I said earlier, if that's not harmful then why not?

Having a headache doesn't harm a kid, you'd still feed it Calpol though. Purple Calpol <3
 
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the calpol is to relieve pain
flight staff should have calpol, for any earache that occours.
but preemptive psychoactive drugs just to relieve boredom and discomfort isnt right IMO

i wouldnt do it to mine and i wouldnt like to see it become a widespread practice. It is morally wrong and sets a dangerous precident, its already too easy to get kids prescribed psychoactives IMO
 
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I'm not opposed to drugging noisy children in general, but not with pharmaceuticals. If I had a child with colic I'd have an herbal sedative on standby all the time. It's not their fault that they don't understand being in the world and it distresses them, but it doesn't change the fact they are ruining my peace of mind and that of the people around them.

My niece had colic and would start screaming non-stop every 2 hours for over a year. I don't know how my sister did it. Without sedation I think I'd murder my own child.

As for airplanes... yes, definitely. They're bad enough at restaurants, but in a confined space like and airplane that I can't escape, they should be STFU.
 
At parttime crackhead....:)

i misread your post, i thought you were saying the other passenger's needs were a factor to take into account when drugging the child.

i read it a second time and i kinda thought you were saying it was just a happy coinicidence that a drugged child is easy for the passengers

i think you are responding to my first rant, not the slightly less ranty edit


but the answer to the moral question is....

difficult to put into words tbh

i guess i see psychoactives differently to antibiotics and pain killers. If the benzo was prescibed because the child needed a muscle relaxant it would be different but if a benzo is used to keep it quiet then your drugging someone to control behaviour.

If you did that to an adult it would be abuse

why do babies and young children not have the same rights?
 
mahoosive bendah said:
why do babies and young children not have the same rights?
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That's easy, babies and young children are helpless, dependent on their parents and in no position to exercise "rights".

An adult who has problems with flying can choose to take a tranquilliser. A baby cannot choose, it doesn't know what's going on or what the options are. The comparison with adults doesn't hold because they don't have anything like the same degree of autonomy.
 
My youngest used to scream his little head off on every flight. Never drugged them, just let them piss everyone off on the flight and let the flight attendants do circus acts trying to quiet them down. Distraction works best followed by giving them to a more sympathetic mother.
Now they are older and sedated with ipad's and Angry Birds.
But, I wouldn't object to giving them some Laudnum if required.
 
mahoosive bendah said:
At parttime crackhead....:)

i misread your post, i thought you were saying the other passenger's needs were a factor to take into account when drugging the child.

i read it a second time and i kinda thought you were saying it was just a happy coinicidence that a drugged child is easy for the passengers

i think you are responding to my first rant, not the slightly less ranty edit
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I was responding to you saying (pre-edit) "Would it be OK to do it a 5 year old?" or something like that when I said...

Yes it would. Not just on a flight, whenever you take the wee fucker out the house.
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No need to reach for a benzo when you can use a drowsy antihistamine like phenergan to keep them quiet.

My daughter was at that stupid age where she would only fall asleep with me standing up. As soon as I tried to sit down with her in my arms she start to cry. As a result I stood up for the entire trip back to nz. Fortunately the hostee was great and fed me beers as a reward for being considerate. Would have appreciated valium if they had one. Was still pissed to all buggery trying to get through customs.
 
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