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Should parents drug babies on long flights?

I've kept my son dosed right up on vallies since he was born, and the dog.

Makes life easer all round.

edit>>>I think people do it cos they don't want other passengers "disapproving" of noisy babies more than anything.

I wouldn't take a baby on a long flight, or any long journey, be different if I had family over the other side of the world maybe.
 
My mate's dog got given valium by the vet.

I liked the bit in the article about the lucky Laotian babies getting opium. Lucky babies. Apart from the ones who OD'd. If any did. Not sure I believe that bit.
 
I was on a flight to the Maldives and there a young baby not two rows in front of us. Don't know if it was drugged up or what but when we got on board we looked at each other and thought 'this is going to be 10 hours of screaming agony' but it wasn't the child was as good as gold. Maybe drugged up to the eyeballs. I agree with MM, if you have a young child why make it endure a 10+ hour flight just so you can get all inclusive cocktails and spa treatment.
 
Was standard proceduce to give babies booze and or opium not all that long ago. Demz waz da daze <3

I'd say it's possibly a tad iffy if it's a regular event but can see how it might be appealing on an unavoidable longhaul flight. Not so sure about just giving 'em a coupla drowsy antihistamines is so wise though - accidental overdose and associated delirium is unlikely to help the situation.
 
Kaolin and morphine anyone? Gee's Linctus? I was brought up on those. And I think you're right Shambles, I think it was almost standard practice. And when norms change it's fun to pretend we're outraged. Or are we just sucking up to anti-drug rhetoric?

Discuss.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
My mate's dog got given valium by the vet.
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When we moved to Edinburgh, we got Valium from the Vet, to give to both our cats for the train journey. Watching them trying to walk and bump into things was bloody hilarious.

Babies on the other hand.. Well. Not sure about that.
 
before giving a human a psychoactive drug without thier consent you must justify it.

usually its so they cant hurt themselves or others, even then i dont think the mentally ill are actually pinned down and injected with drugs these days [ could be wrong not claiming to be an expert ]

how would anyone justify drugging a baby on a plane ?
what ailment are you treating or harm preventing ?
seems to me babies on planes have no idea they are 40000 feet up, they're just bored and can't get comfortable [ the noise is unlikely to bother them ] so the babies are just bored and over-tired.

that is not enough of a justification
 
On occasion the change in pressure on a plane has caused absolute agony to me. I don't think babies are immune to that. I'd much rather be asleep than feel like my ears & back teeth are about to explode.

There's also the absolute agony babies cause to my ears on planes. I'd much rather they were asleep. Give them blues.
 
Would it be more or less acceptable if the mother took a fuckloada benzos before flying then breastfed baby during the flight? Has the added bonus that if baby still ends up screaming all the way the mother is far less likely to feel bad at all the irritation and tutting surrounding her :D
 
Ben So Furry said:
Off topic sorry but I experience this. Particularly at take off or landing. Bloody horrible it is. Had it so bad once it felt like my head was going to pop.
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I get it really bad at landing.

Do they still come round with a boiled sweet before landing? Not that it made any difference.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Anti-traumatic?

Babies are easily induced into trauma, lack of comfort would be enough on its own.
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but how is a long flight more traumatic than a long drive ?
i'm not sure a lack of comfort is enough to traumatise a person, think of the lack of comfort early humans or current third world humans endure without being traumatised ?

children and babies, if anything are more resiliant than adults, would the human race survived if they werent ?

i think the real root of this debate has already been said ; the key question is why the baby is on the plane in the first place

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well i guess the answer to my rhetorical would be the pressure thing...
my response would that be "hmm....well...maybe"
 
A flight is infinitely more traumatic than a car ride, unless the car does a few hundred miles an hour & bounces up into the sky then comes bouncing back down again. I don't know how you can even question why a flight would be more traumatic to a baby than a car journey.

I'm not in the slightest bit scared of flying, but it's far rougher (particularly take off & landing) than an average car journey. I'd be shocked at a baby not crying during take-off tbh.

If it is safe then I don't see the issue. I don't know if it's safe or not though.
 
I kinda disagree with the roughness part... Obviously you ve been spared the more horrible roads around where im at. Heck if i drive my own car within legal limits for 200km my back is hurting for days. On the other hand i can sleep through takeoffs and landings without drugs help...

But back on topic. If its good for thebaby and the trip is unavoidable then why not, with care. Otherwise babies need to stay in their cribs at home
 
kingme said:
I kinda disagree with the roughness part... Obviously you ve been spared the more horrible roads around where im at. Heck if i drive my own car within legal limits for 200km my back is hurting for days. e
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Do you live in Laos??
 
I can sleep through take-offs & landings as well. Many a time I've told the person trying to wake me up to fuck off only to eventually realise they're doing it because we've landed (to be fair I've usually been pished, it's against the law not to have a few pints in the airport, particularly if it's at some stupid time like 6am). Still rougher than your average car journey though. Do folk not sometimes take their babies out for a drive to try & get them to sleep?
 
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