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should i try codeine?

lieaz

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Hello everyone, lately ive been considering trying codeine and i am wondering if you think i should. I am 13, and havent really had any past drug experiences other than drinking a couple of times. I don't plan on having codeine any more than once or twice, I just want to try it out.
Also, I plan on only having about 75mg, do you think this would give me an énjoyable time?
 
what are kids at that age doing now a days? there was another kid on here taking percoets also 13 unless you are the same kid
i honestly dont think you are ready to play the prescription pill game(no pun intended) it's a game you wont win in the long run only lose
i dont condone drinking at that age either
take it from someone wiser and much much older than you stay away from all this crap and experience life without any pills
 
I think it's a bad idea to start taking drugs as a teenager. Your brain isn't finished developing yet. You could enjoy them too much and get addicted or start using other drugs too. I could give you a dozen reasons why you shouldn't do this. The biggest would be my son who started smoking weed daily at 13 and before long was on to harder drugs.

He thought he could handle it, but started failing at school, getting in trouble with the law, ordered to rehab by age 15. He's turning 18 next week, got expelled for drug use at school so he's not graduating now. Picked up a couple charges and is in real trouble (17 is considered an adult in Michigan) because he just couldn't stop. I'm not going to preach to you but if you could see how drugs have affected his life, you would think twice about this. Please, just don't.
 
No, you shouldn't try codeine. Thirteen is way too young to be starting drugs.
 
overdose levels comes from mg/kg. it will take a lot less of whatever u'r taking to be toxic.
Taking Codeine is a bad idea but if u'r dead set on doing it, don't do it with overdosing on paracetamol/acetaminophen (apap) or ibuprofen.

keep it to a 1000mg of apap MAX at once and 800mg MAX of ibuprofen at once. and you can only do that at least 8 hours apart for a few days MAX. only because ibuprofen sometimes gets prescribed at a max of 800mg for adults. Higher than the 400mg it says on the box you can take if you are 12 or older.

You risk toxicity at more 3-4g of apap at once for an adult seriously. Especially at your age. maybe not death but toxicity that will need time to heal. you don't want that. If you take more than 5g id go to the hospital. look up the LD50 for apap. for a usual adult it's around 10. for a 13 yo it would be more like 15 that kills half the people that take it. Be careful.

Maybe I shouldn't be saying this but for HARM reduction:

If your live in America I know they have t3s and t4s. with 325mg apap and 30 or 60mg of codeine. is that right?
don't take more than 3 of either of those. a 180mg dose would he VERY high dose anyway for someone your age and size with no tolerance.
3 tylonal 3s would be perfect to get you smashed and drowsy (90mg). I get how there is no point if u aint going to actually feel the stuff.

you CAN mix ibuprofen and paracetamol together to achieve a higher codeine amount. in Australia they have otc nurofen plus and panadeine extra as they actually have pills with apap and ibuprofen mixes but study's show they arnt very healthy. But they only are in 1g apap/400mg ibuprofen doses not 800mg ibuprofen and without any codeine.

In Australia they have Panadeine Forte. with 500mg apap and 30mg codeine. You could take 2 of them as a ONE off with a few Nurofen plus.

if you took 2 panadeine extra (30mg) which are otc and 4 nurofen plus (50mg) That would be just the right amount. What I mean to say is u would be better taking 4 of the ibuprofen and 2 of the apap than taking just 4 of the apap. As the APAP is the most toxic one. if u MUST do something stupid.

Better I tell him this than he goes and pops like 6 Tylenols or panadeine fortes or something.

don't bother with the cold water extraction. it's dangerous unless u have done ALOT of research. and you don't need to as you just want to try it and it can be achieved by what I said with no damage as long as it's a one off.
 
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I am well aware of the dangers of taking a lot of APAP. I've got pills with 15mg codeine and 500mg APAP and if I were to try codeine, I would probably do a cold water extraction. What are the dangers with the cwe like you mentioned? I thought it was pretty effective and safe.
 
The dangers are u use to much water. the water isn't cold enough or u haven't filtered properly. Often people on the internet give simple cwe's that are dangerous. Ive seen them use to much water and your the a coffee filter that they squeeze because it is clearly clogged with apap.
1g apap is soluble in 70mL at 10°C On some websites. (14.28mg/mL)
1.27g apap is soluble in 100m at 20 °C on Wikipedia (12.78mg/mL)
the information around the net varies. I once seen a chart showing temps of apap at different temperatures from 0-25°C. and the amount soluble only had a difference of about 500mg apap. so if u'r using less than 100mL u will be getting between about 750mg and 1250mg of apap/100mL. So the amount of water you use is the most important thing. it can NEVER be more than 100mL
use 2 mLs per tablet. tablets here come in 12,24 or 40. use 80mL for the 40s and 50mL for the 42 and 12s
Put water into the freezer until it actually starts to freeze on top. remove the tiny bit of ice. It is now as cold as possible.
Now put the pills in to prevent it from freezing while they are in there. they should dissolve with a little help from crushing and stirring with a spoon. use the handle of a screw driver if u must. You must stir it thoroughly because a lot of the codeine is in the apap sludge layer.
get a bowl or small container. than get a clean, new if possible handkerchief (which is what I use and works well) or some other closely woven fabric and cut it to about the size of a handkerchief (small) because it absorbs the water & u loose your codeine. u HAVE to do a first filter otherwise the APAP clogs up the coffee filter and the water wont drip through.
You can wet the hanky first to try to stop this which actually adds water to your mix so make sure if your do this you squeeze all the water back out till no more water drips out. So u know the hanky is damped but is adding as little water as possible to your mix because the more water. the more apap.
place hanky over bowl which has to be smaller than the width of the handkerchief and put a groove in the middle to pour the mix. You want ALL the apap/codeine and water into the hanky so you don't loose any codeine. This is a common mistake people make of only pouring the water layer.
Pour your cold codeine water mix over the hanky than join all 4 corns of the hanky up high and squeeze all the water into the hanky into the bowl. Sqeeze as hard as you can because any water not squeezed out is wasted codeine. Every last drop you can.
First filter done. See how much apap the hanky caught? Throw that away.
Now dampen a coffee filter and place it over a glass. pour contents of first filter into coffee filter. It will drip slowly. u can hold it up and slightly squeeze it to the point where it is dripping fast but not running. u have to be super patient. if u tear the filter u have to get a new filter and do it again.
now once it has gone through the filter wrap[ the filter and squeeze it gently to get it all.
now look at the filter. if there is any white powder than u have saved yourself putting that crap in your body.
Get another filter dampen it in place over a glass. pour for a 3rd filter through again. now the water should just pour through quickly now because there is nothing blocking it with little to no help. Have a look at the filter and see if it has caught any more white stuff. If it has than u need to keep re-filtering until the filter doesn't capture anything. notice if you put plain water through a filter it goes through quickly. That's what you wan't it to do so you know nothing is clogging it.
the water must be practically as clear as normal water. not at all white. it can have a slight tinge of grey if your using large amounts of pills as the filters make it slightly off colour and there is the soluble apap and the codeine itself. DONE!

Take note of the amount of water you originally used. Lets assume it was 50mL. If the amount of water you end up with is 45mL you have lost 10% of your codeine atleast. You will get better at it. That was exhausting writing that.
I had to do it so I knew you had a proper technique because some of them on the internet are dangerous.
I have to go for a second. I will come back later and maybe edit out or clear up any mistakes.
One last thing is the dose. You can look that up yourself. Doing with about 10 of those pills you have sounds like a good amount. You will end up with about 120mg codeine. Im being generous for a first time dosage. Some would say do less especially if you may be allergic to Codeine.
 
Everyone will tell u no because codiene for a lot of people was their gateway drug to morphine then H etc... Go surf or skate till your alteast 16
 
even though I gave u all that information maybe u could wait until your brain is a little bit more developed.
I think it takes until your 22 until your brain stops growing. people who get into drugs while they're teenagers already get mental illness because it stops there brain from developing. SERIOUSLY! I know heaps of people this has happened to. Make it a hobby to learn about drugs if you want like pharmacists to but try to hold off until later. Your brain hasn't got the ability to see consequences like an older persons brain does.
Put it this way. if u damage your brain now u may have a bit off fun for a little while and fuck up the start of your life & wont be able to enjoy life as much from then on. or you could wait until u are more developed an educated and than u can have fun and party all the time for the rest of your life and you will be smart successful and have the money to do that.
if u are a sensible person that understands moderation and has self control you can try it but tell yourself to only try it if your dead set on doing it otherwise you will withdraw from your friends and family as well. It may make u feel better while u are at home but than the next day at school you may feel worse and people will start thinking u are weird.
I don't think he has the means to get addicted to codeine. what's he going to do. pharmacy shop on his bike. He wouldn't know anyone with cancer he can get morphine. and people don't have fucking heroin and school.
so I'm not sure on this one. its up to u mate. if u have an addictive personality stay away from it. if u just want an experience. Have a bit and leave it alone. it isn't good for your organs. get endorphins from running. I want to be fitter and stronger than everyone else.
I'm not used to giving advice to people to young. Most adults are more sensible. like with alcohol and stuff. Im in my 30s and I cant drink because I cant handle it. If I was 13 and had a drink I would have been stumbling around throwing up and sick for a week.
Codeine can make you feel REALLY sick for someone of any age. Just be careful please. Fight to stay in control of yourself. Set boundaries and stick with them so you don't disappoint yourself.
sorry I'm bored. I keep writing these rambling posts. I need to get a life. see what pain killers don't to me lol

I cant edit my how to do cwe post. it comes up as a bank post when I go to edit. it has a "restore auto saved-content button" which isn't usually there when I edit a post either. I've had problems editing other posts Ive made too. If I copy and paste my message in the editing window to try to change it that way no matter what I do it thinks my message contains less than 3 characters when I click on save. Can someone explain this?
 
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please read the percocet usage at age 13 thread in bdd. what is with these 13 year olds and opiates is it a trend? not criticizing just asking
 
My personal opinion is no drugs till 16 then only weed till 18,then Whatever u want..go outside and play sports..opiates are prolly the worst decision u can make drug wise at a young age,at any age actually

Most addictions start as curiosities..no one intends to fall deeply in love with a feeling but with opiates theres a high chance for that to happen
 
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Please don't man. Pretty big gateway to othe r harder opiates. If I were you'd of just smoke weed if you really want to get high. Then agian that's sorta a gateway.
 
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