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should i take 7 grams

I've experienced 5 grams and it will place you somewhere other than where you started from, very humbling. I'll stick with 4 grams witch is where my sweet spot is... funny where a 1/2 gram difference can lead you.
 
I usually stick with an 8th. Im no lightwieght and ive had some intense trips on an 8th. Keep in mind its hard to measure the potency of mushrooms, and u could be setting yourself up for a horrible disastrous feeling.
 
As always, it is relative. And of course it is better to start low and work your way up slowly. I've been surprised by mushrooms before and expect to be surprised again.

My recent foray into stupidity was not labeling a grow where I harvested 4 (or 6?) different types. I didn't keep the cakes separate, nor did I keep the drying shrooms separate. I've had 2 grams that were overwhelming, 3 grams that were meh. It depends on how comfortable you are with potentially having your mind torn apart. The first time that happens can be unsettling.

I've found that tripping for a purpose is usually good or beneficial; tripping out of boredom never is. And tripping because you grow and have lots....well, it can lead you to some strange places.

Take care OP.

Tom
 
downfallin said:
It says in the rules of psychedelic drugs, no "should I take" questions. Not trying to be a dick, I`m not a moderator, just saying.
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This is not "what should I take?" this is "should I do this?" which is harm reduction related. Not that anyone could really answer it, but some experiences might give the OP a better idea.

Back on-topic, I guess the idea of 7g sounds very appealing, but most, if not everyone, finds this experience very overwhelming and chaotic. These are people that handle most high doses without any issue. I'll reiterate that psilohausca (mushrooms+MAOI) might be a better idea if you're looking for something heavy, 2g should be enough to blast you away. Especially if your mushrooms are very potent, I'd go a bit lower then.

Or just do your regular dose in a pitch-black and quiet environment. That should put you face-to-face with your mind, if that goes without any issue then you could titrate upwards until you think any more wouldn't be a good idea. A high dose can take you deeper, but so can a different setting.

You should ask yourself what you want to get out of this trip. If you can come up with a valid answer (curiosity is not) then by all means, do it. I don't think anyone can though..
 
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5 grams tops, this is McKennas golden dose... You can eat 7 but it not fun at all ... You will be floating away looking at your body not everyone can handle that without breaking hard, crying, seeking help, dont be ignorant.

5 grams dried in a dark room, with no auditory or visual input, silent and dark, thats where the magics at.
 
My initial response would be no: take a little bit less first, say 5g, and see what that does for you.
I've found that with mushrooms, increasing dosage can intensify your trip exponentially. For example, the jump from a half 1/8 to an 1/8 might be 4x as intense, where as jumping from an 1/8 to 4g could also be 4x as intense.
It's always best to start out safe and increase dosage later on if you can handle it.
 
I think that the silent darkness on a lower dose is a good option for a couple of reasons.

The pure fact of not having any distractions and having to give the visions and feeling your complete attention will be deep and immersive, but without having ramped up the dose so high that there is no way of turning it off, if on say 4 grams in darkness it gets a bit woo woo and uncomfortable then you always have the option of turning on the light and getting a drink of water etc... but on 7 grams it's not that it gets a little bit uncomfortable or a bit scary and woo woo, it can get ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BAT SHIT CRAZY, stranger than you ever imagined or wanted it to get, and there is no way of stopping it, turning on the light isn't an option because you can't fucking move or hold together your thoughts long enough to put that action into place, you will be (could be) just a gibbering fucking unmovable bodyless mess begging for it to stop, and that kind of defy's the point, not much to bring back from an experience like that except for some bragging rights, but that's totally the wrong motivation for doing it and you are almost guaranteeing an ass whooping if you take the mushroom on with that attitude, trust me, whatever you think you are, however tough you think you are, however hardheaded you think you are, the mushroom can rip that fucking fantasy apart in moments.

And I have found that the "sweet spot" as other people have mentioned, is a great place to try and find, the best way in my opinion for a strong mushroom trip to go is for it to be a dialog, where you swap ideas with it, where you get challenged for sure, but not overwhelmed, you have to think about it with respect for the mushroom, and think about what the msuhroom gets out of the exchange, would you turn up at your grandparents thanksgiving drunk off your nut on wild turkey and start punching everyone ? well perhaps that's the way you come across to the beings in hyperspace when you dose too high, instead of being a welcome sentient human being that has for a few hours entered a multidimensional space and can share energy with "the other" (whatever that is), instead of that you are like the party crasher from hell, and no one wants that to deal with, not even intergalactic fungi minds lol

worth considering what it is YOU are going to bring to the trip, not just what IT can give to you.

Just my 5 cents worth based on a few serious msuhroom ass kickin's and my reflecting upon what went wrong and why.
 
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What he begins to explain at about 14:00, is IDENTICAL to what I experienced with mushrooms, but at a much lower dose. He explains it better than I've ever been able to or heard anyone explain it. It's EXACTLY what happened, feels as if you're shot up with PURE PURE PURE insanity, fear, and terror, while you experience every possible, conceivable, reality, interraction, emotion, future past, EVERYTHING that this world contains, all at one infinitesimal sliver of time that simply never ends for what feels like million of years.

I've only been to that place once, and as he was, it was in the dark, in the fetal position in my bed with zero grasp of any sort of reality, just pure insanity.

Got shivers just from watching him explain it, was like my experience retold.

EDIT: is there a "name" for this place? I can't imagine it's not a common happening on high doses of mushrooms.
 
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^^ yeh, i think he nailed it as good as anyone could, I know that place well.
 
Asante said:
Very high doses permanently dull low doses. People who take very high doses find they can get less benefit from low doses anymore and they tend to end up in a progression of increasing maximum doses and increasing minimum doses. The result of this is loss of magic.

I have tripped for 20 years and I'm as highly sensitive as ever, having always honored the low dose.

If you want to burn out on psychedelics take those 7 grams. If you'd like shrooms to strike you with awe for many years to come, don't exceed 1/8 oz.

In the 60s there were two types of psychedelic therapy: that of modest doses often repeared and that of enormous doses once or twice in a lifetime. Enormous doses often repeated is a dead end road. Something has got to give, it will either be your sensitivity, your sensory integrity or your sanity.
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I am really glad you posted this because I feel that I no longer enjoy or get anything out of small doses, and My minimum is definitely at some peoples max dosages. And that extreme heroic dosages are what I strive for every time. Wish that I had done as you suggested and had kept my dosages lower and now I feel that it is to late and I have lost the magic that most people get from the lower doses
 
Without deep, complicated perspective on who you are, we can never answer that question. Self evaluate and decide yourself, we can only give you a vague idea of what to expect
 
Why not? I mean, the worst that can come of it is a bad trip. Almost as hard to OD (to the point of death/physical injury) on mushies as it is on cannabis. I know a guy who ate half an ounce (off a table, with his hands tied behind his back) and he seemed to enjoy himself quite well. A Q is about the perfect dose.
 
Taking such a high dose you will sort of ruin mushrooms for yourself.

My buddy his very first time unknowingly ate 14 grams, and thats a whole nother story (and boy is it a story...), and every since then he is always pretty bored by mushrooms.

I remember a few years ago he ate a quarter ounce, 7 grams, at the beach with me and some friends and he appeared and acted practically sober, he said it was fun, but it just didn't phase him at all. And these were the same mushrooms I ate 3 grams of that sent me into the next dimension.

As many will say it's not a tolerance in that you can't get as high anymore, it's just a mental fortification that you build from undergoing the experience. Sort of like... You go on the craziest ride at the fair, and it's crazy, but the next time you do it it's not as fun. Not that you've built up a tolerance to roller coasters (lol), but that you've already done it so it's not new and interesting anymore.
 
OP

Here's what happened tonight after eating 7g homegrown. My house looks like a disaster zone, torn audio cables (as in I somehow tried to connect something to my home theater and fucked up), spilled food in the kitchen, forgot my dogs outside for 4 hours and managed to crap my pants (forgot what pants were or the need to remove them before hitting the water closet).

And because I could not cook I kept trying to order pizza. They kept hanging up on me.

etc

Was not insightful or enjoyable and I feel like garbage at the moment.

Tom

[edit.... Was unable to play music, couldn't see well enough to control playlists. Had a very hard time walking, balance was shot. I missed an entire football game I had intended watching. Was at baseline ~16 hours after dosing. Vision was norma; ~12 hours after dosing.]
 
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EarthBounded said:
5 grams tops, this is McKennas golden dose... You can eat 7 but it not fun at all ... You will be floating away looking at your body not everyone can handle that without breaking hard, crying, seeking help, dont be ignorant.

5 grams dried in a dark room, with no auditory or visual input, silent and dark, thats where the magics at.
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Qft!
 
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