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Should I give aMT to this person...

delsymfan

delsymfan

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So I'm down here in Peru and my lovely girlfriend is quite interested in my psychedelic use. She'd love to try something out. Due to the 2c-b-fly fiasco I just have some AMT handy.

I think AMT would be a fantastic first drug for her, not too strong, not rough on the body (when smoked) and overall quite enjoyable.

However the reason I'm poasting this right now, is because I'm kinda concerned over her mental past and history.

A few years ago she was really depressed, and was put on some pretty hardcore pills, namely Seroquel the Anti-Psychotic. She never had any real disorder but was put on those for a while. She's off pills now and has been for a long time, but on occasion has had some "episodes" we'll call em.

Most recently all had been going well but her ex boyfriend whos a lunatic came over, freaked out, yelling at the family and screaming at her and saying a lot of bad shit. And she kinda snapped, cried all night, mildly cut her wrist, some pretty heavy stuff.

And so it concerns me slightly to introduce somebody with a slightly unclean history of mental stability to psychedelics. Shes perfectly normal all the time but I just think doesnt respond to some stress well.

Anyway the one side of me says AMT has been used as a successful anti-depressant and should be quite enjoyable and helpful. And the other side is concerned about giving her something like this.

Any thoughts? I'm planning on keeping her first dose small, and as of right now, I'm planning on doing it with her tomorrow. Still a few opinions cant hurt.
 
Tell her exactly what's on your mind, the importance of a good mindset, and leave it up to her. But make sure if she's stressed or ambivalent, that she be truthful to herself and not take it. My two sent(iment)s
 
I dunno man if she's Bi-Polar or something I would say maybe not a good idea. Even still I guess start with a low dose just to see if her mind can handle it without bugging out.
 
i think a good conversation about what her reasons for being interested in psychedelic use are is in order. I imagine you two have probably talked about this at length if she's been interested for a while. just make sure she's well informed, in a comfortable setting and in a stable mindset before she doses. and of course start with a low dose
 
You have to make sure she is comfortable with the idea. Have her read some trip reports here and on erowid. Express to her the importance of a good mind set and being in a friendly setting, like your living room.

Don't give her the amount you would do to get off, give her something lower to get the feeling of tripping. aMT is a wonderful chemical, keep it small and she'll have a great time
 
I wouldn't give AMT to anyone unless they read lots of stuff on it, it's a research chemical.

There are better and more profound psychedelics to take, LSD and mushrooms.

And before someone says "well AMT is good to start because it's easier on the mind" and it's more mild and you can function more normally".

Well my response to that is....that defeats the whole purpose of taking a psychedelic. You want it to be trippy and dissolve some of your EGO...
 
I think its a bad idea. Given her past and especially the nature of the drug. I havent tried AMT myself, but it seems like quite a "hardcore" psychedelic to me. If she wants it to be over 1-2 hours into it, theres a long way to go. I think a low dose 2C-B or HBWR would be a better place to start. Dont give her AMT because its the only psychedelic at hand. Then you'd be better of waiting for something different to turn up.

Of course, if she feels ready and is well prepared it could turn out to be a great experience. Better safe than sorry though.
 
Mmk well let me address all your points:

She's definitely fine right now. That little freak out happened a few nights ago. And she's not coming here looking for a drug to take an edge off. She's been saying how she'd like to explore these things a little bit for a while now but just has no access.

Down here in Peru acids tough to find and theres a possible shrooms contact but he's not readily available.

Also Killo, I dont think she needs her ego shattered on her first psych experience. It should be mild the first time. Then maybe we can get her in deeper.

And AMT, at least to me, is certainly a much gentler psych then the 2C-E I've tried before. Its also less of a RC than people realize. It was a prescription drug at one point. IMO its got a better research and safety profile for that reason.

I'd love to have her read TR's but she only speaks spanish lol...

And also it was her idea. In fact, I was hiding my use one night. I was using AMT and she surprised me at my house. She noticed I was odd so I confessed. And she was like really interested. I'm definitely not one to force somebody into it.

Thanks for all the responses. I for sure will be taking it slow.
 
Given the empathogenic nature of AMT, I think this drug in particular would be good but I am not completely sure. Ionno how available it actually is there, but I would imagine San Pedro is not too hard to find in Peru. That could be a good first time as well since it is so carefree.

If she decides to trip, be sure to tell her to let go.
 
San pedro is available but it requires prep and neither of us have a free kitchen right now...

Anyway she took some. She couldnt really hold the smoke in. I gave her a bit to try. She has sensitive lungs, had a problem with them a few years ago. She still can smoke stuff but not frequently. She was sipping the lightbulb like it was a fruity drink lol and couldnt really just inhale it hard.

Anyway gave her what I figured to be roughly 15-20mg oral and she seemed to be enjoying it as it kicked in, but she had homework and had to leave. Her work is highly creative and we were spewing good ideas for it so hopefully it will help her with that.
 
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