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Should Ecstasy be legal?

purplefirefly said:
I'm not necessarily convinced of that. *shrugs*
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The only way to tell is when they legalize everything. And since they're not going to, I guess we will never know.
 
  • Standard doses and purity
  • Age limits
  • Revenue from taxes
  • A huge dent in the black market which in return reduces violence
  • Reasonable prices
  • Safe acquisition for the user
  • Not being treated like a criminal for doing what you want to your own body
There are many reasons why it should be legal. I could go on and on but, you know, I would just be preaching to the choir.
 
of course it should. it should atleast be down graded if the pips are legal then y not mdma the pips are much worse
 
my answer is NO, because it will only encourage everyone to do drugs. i wouldn't want the bus driver of my kid's school bus to be fucked up while driving them around. Besides that, reality is it will never happen. LOL. What I do want to see however, is the government to stop watching over the materials to make these drugs and who buys them and so on. That only encourages the chemists to use "substitutes" that are potentially fatal.
 
I dont think ecstasy should be legal. I mean, seriously think about it. So many people (or at least most that I know) cant control themselves when it comes to drugs. If it was legal to buy and easily accessable they would be on it all the time and become worthless. They wouldnt work, they wouldnt produce shit.... Given there are people who can do drugs responsibly... you have to think about the majority... and the majority cannot.
 
If it was legal to buy and easily accessable they would be on it all the time and become worthless. They wouldnt work, they wouldnt produce shit.... Given there are people who can do drugs responsibly... you have to think about the majority... and the majority cannot.
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Considering the garbage we are fed about drugs by mainstream news sources what do you expet? Good information can go a long way, and if the government starts introducing sanity into their drug control strategy we might see a change in peoples attitudes about drug use. Our culture needs to change before all substances can be legal, of that there is little debate. However I do believe it is possible to, in time, reduce harm through legalization. The government just needs to have a common sense approach to drugs instead of appointing some 75 year old politician to create our policy.

Yes, the outlook is bleak now, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel. The new generation of americans has become more and more socially liberal. Gay marrage is becoming a huge civil rights issue, and young americans are vastly in favor of it. Once that hurdle is cleared I can see drug policy being the next item on the list. And since the rest of the modern world follows the US like a shadow on drug policy the house of cards might fall sooner than anyone anticipated.
 
miamiroller said:
my answer is NO, because it will only encourage everyone to do drugs. i wouldn't want the bus driver of my kid's school bus to be fucked up while driving them around. Besides that, reality is it will never happen. LOL. What I do want to see however, is the government to stop watching over the materials to make these drugs and who buys them and so on. That only encourages the chemists to use "substitutes" that are potentially fatal.
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Alcohol is legal, is your kid's bus driver driving drunk every day?


It's a shame that there are so many responsible drug users out there, people who function in society and take care of themselves. It's too bad that the bad drug users are sensationalized and publicized. That's propaganda though, if you are a drug user then you MUST be a bad person who is automatically going to do bad things.

How do you know that the bus driver doesn't already indulge in a responsible and private setting? The answer is that you don't and you are making assumptions.

Don't you think that if drugs were legalized there would be controls put into play, like you could face charges if you are driving under the influence as with alcohol?
 
i think it's best off staying illegal. it's a substance that will be highly abused, and if it were to be legal, there would be more people who would want to try it. as with alcohol, i see kids at age 10 drinking in parks, you can imagine if pills were legal.. e will fuck you up more than alcohol in a shorter period of time if abused heavily. things are fine the way they are. you just have to be careful when buying this product. avoid buying from strangers, test pills, and get feedback from others. i also think e, in a way, is a gateway drug. i've tried alcohol and weed back in high school, but besides that, the thought of trying any other drug has not crossed my mind until everyone around me was doing pills. after using e just a few times, i've lost fear of doing "other" drugs, and have since been experimenting for 2.5 years. i'm over it now. i have finally accepted the fact that all drugs are bad :) no matter how "harmless" you may think they are, they just aren't good for you, even in moderation. all moderation does is just minimize damage you do to yourself. as safe as you may think e is, i've had some pretty fucked up hangovers when i first started, despite taking long breaks, staying hydrated, pre / post loading, and never exceeding more than 1-2 pills. i've experienced 2 extreme panic attacks when i first started taking e, which occurred the day after use where i thought i'd die because my heart was beating so uncontrollably fast, and having chest pain. but that was before i knew what anxiety even was, and have since learned to meditate my way out of it without a problem. also, having a 2 week hangover from 2 pills was a nightmare, why that happened, i still don't know. but yes, there isn't much info available about this drug, especially its long term effects on the brain. and until this info is available to the public, this substance should be banned. those who want to use it, do it on their own free will, and at their own risk.
 
in the UK they are deciding on it being brought down from class A (schedule 1 in america) to class B (schedule 2 in america)..

Ecstasy should be legal to a certain degree, like to people over 21 etc.
im only 16 tho lol.. but i have a great knowledge in my chemicals and i know wat im doin and how to controll my drugs.
although alot of other people of my age dont they find E and are lik wow this drug is great and then before you know it they have overdosed.
so yes it should be legal but not to people under the age of 21.
 
If Ecstasy were legally sold as a prescription drug from a pharmacy the pills would come in much lower dosages than what is sold on the street.
It would be like 5 - 30 mg tablets just like medications for ADHD. You would still have to abuse the medication to get high. It would be super expensive to buy from a pharmacy compared to street price. Look at how expensive Desoxyn IR (methamphetamine for ADHD/ADD) is like 285$US for 60 10mg pills.
So just imagine how expensive MDMA IR 10mg pills (weak dosage) would be plus you have to pay to see a psychiatrist to get a scrip for it( $100-$250 per visit) unless you have good medical insurance.
Expensive prescription MDMA would suck balls compared to taking a good street pill containing 100+ mgs of pure MDMA.

Legalizing MDMA would not eliminate the need for black-market street MDMA like people here are saying ( e.g. prescription Desoxyn (methamphetamine) for narcolepsy and ADHD is legally prescribed by doctors yet people are still using street methamphetamine.)
I wish human nature was not so self destructive, then all drugs could be legalized and responsibly used by all. :(
 
I think, inevitably, drugs won't need to be legal.

I think before actual drugs would ever be legal, brain devices that mimic drugs without actually causing metabolic harm to the body will be made available (we're talking maybe thirty to fifty years from now). They will be so prevalent that governments will have no choice but to make them legal, and probably regulated. We might see a situation with "brain devices" analogous to the current situation with P2P music downloading. Governments will have no choice but to regulate these simulated drugs in the same way that Apple has paid downloads for mp3s. The record companies have to adapt to this now incredibly prolific technology, or die out - the format called the "album" is a dying art. In the same way, governments will be forced to adapt to this drug technology. It will likely be based on nanotechnolgy, as in, little nanobots infiltrating your brain and hitting all the right buttons. It sounds dangerous, but it would actually be safer than any known drug, surgery, or really, most medical procedures.

I know this sounds farfetched and crazy, but I read too much about optimistic technology trends. :)

I think it'll happen. We're already on our way to understanding how the brain works more and more. We already have brain implants that can do all sorts of things. Once we completely reverse engineer the brain's signal pathways, we'll probably be able to "transmit" our own customized signals through those pathways. We could send a signal to the aural centers of your brain so you could listen to music without headphones. We could trick your brain into sensing the scent of strawberries wherever you go. And, more to the point, we could send a signal to your higher sensory centers to mimic just the feelings of a drug like MDMA, without any of the damage caused by the metabolism of the drug. I don't think the two are inseparable.

Anyway, back in today's reality, carry on... :D
 
^^^^ Wow.

That sounds like a good reason for me to consider cryogenics............I wanna be arround when that comes in.
 
What if ecstasy was legal?

This topic is open to anyway you interpret the question. Would the world be a more understandable place? How would addiction effect the population like alcohol and tobbaco does? How much safer would the users themselves be?

No answer is wrong, I just wanted BL imput on the question.
 
the world might be a better place. it's a drug that makes you very friendly, so i think every1 will have that sort of connection by ecstasy.

there's lots of different people out there. making x legal would have it's pro and con.
 
I would be just the same as I am now, due to the fact that if people started hammering it everyday, the magic would go inevitably fast, and you just wouldn't get the same effect, due to it starting to work on the dopamine gland instead of serotonin when it's run out? - I think, but i'm shit with that stuff -. On the other hand, if you could constantly re-dose and feel the same, i'd be a big blubbering lovey dovey mess 24/7 =D.
 
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