Should all drugs be 100% legal?

[Folley]

If someone is violent on meth, they're just as likely to be violent on any other drug. Certain adrenergic drugs like meth or cocaine may enhance the fight or flight response, and opiates/benzos might make it so you just don't give a fuck who you hit, but there's no drug that will make a pacifist into a violent criminal. They may help the process, but it's likely something that would have come out regardless.



but you're right, alcohol is a very messy and notoriously idiotic drug. Not many other substances can revert a fully grown man into a giant, violent baby. Which is why if it is legal, than drugs like amphetamines or benzos that actually have medicinal value should be as well. Not even going to mention weed as that's already legal from where I sit

Seyer, I would just like to apologize for being a bit testy with you. I had no buisiness acting that way towards you and I'm sorry.

takes a big man to apologize on the internet and yeah Seyer is really a good guy, but he's got a bone dry sense of humor and you kind of have to know him before you really understand what he's saying haha. No offense tweakyD lol, I'm sure it's nothing new to you though

 

[cmpetr2k]

Actually that post was meant for verso. I don't know how I keep making that mistake.
Anyway, in case you didn't get it I did reply your post concerning the moderators. Its post#40

 

[verso]

My friend, with all do respect, if you don't think alcohol causes a lot of raging assaults, murders, and a whole bunch of other violent crimes, then I must respectfully request that you do a little more research on this subject. Its a well known fact that alcohol is a factor in the majority of crimes, especially violent crimes. And if you think drug users are generally docile, I'm quite sure that if you ever meet a crack head or a meth head desperate to get his/her next fix you would find good reason to change you mind about that!

I've known plenty of alcoholics, plenty of crackheads, and plenty of drug users; not one has, to my knowledge, murdered anyone, and not one has, again, to my knowledge, assaulted anyone in order to get his or her "fix." In fact, not one of the drug addicts I've known has ever assaulted an individual at all to my knowledge; the crimes that these individuals have been charged with in the past are larceny and theft.

It could be that the drug addicts I've become acquainted with just so happen to be the more well-behaved ones, or it could be that while drugs and alcohol may be the common factor in certain crimes being committed, there is an equal if not larger number of these same individuals -- drug addicts, that is -- not committing these crimes. In other words, even if 100% of violent crimes were being perpetrated by drug addicts, how do you expect me to be impressed by such a thing when let's say that only 10% of drug addicts go on to commit these crimes to begin with? In other other words, and with all due respect, while the majority of violent crimes may be committed by drug addicts (which I'm still not sure I even believe to begin with), do you know the number, the fraction, the percent of drug addicts who go on to commit these crimes to begin with? It might be far fewer, and much less impressive than you think...

EDIT: You're sort of looking at this whole thing a little ass-backwards -- again, with all due respect. To simplify the point that I'm making, consider this:

The statement you are making ("Alcohol and drugs are a factor in the majority of violent crimes and murder") is akin to something like: "Men are responsible for the majority of all cases of rape."

And while it may be true, and while this sounds very scary and media-friendly, you must then ask the question: "What percent of men rape to begin with?" and of course we know the answer to this question is, well, certainly not the majority of men -- right? And again, we must ask "What percent of drug addicts and alcoholics go on to murder and assault?" Well, it's not the majority -- or at least to my knowledge it isn't.

So then the original implication, that drugs and alcohol must be regulated so as not to bring about more and more cases of murder and assaults becomes sort of a moot point when looked at from the perspective of how-many-drug-addicts-perpetrate-violent-crimes rather than how-many-violent-crimes-are-perpetrated-by-drug-addicts. See what I'm saying?

 

[crazycatman]

I voted yes. They should only be sold in specialized shops (kinda like Sweden has for alcohol) in preparations of known purity/sterility along with a quick instruction sheet about proper use, what to do in case of over dose, where to seek help if you become addicted, ...
Part of the price should go directly for the treatment of health problems caused by their use (like with alcohol and tobacco).
Selling to minors should be prohibited as should driving/operating heavy machinery under the influence.

 

[MVeritasK]

All drugs should be legal. So should prostitution and the rest of the victimless "crimes." It comes down to the government not being responsible for what I do to myself or another consenting rational adult. Just because heroin became legal doesnt mean heroin is safe, and no one I know would run out and try it simply because its legal... The people who were adamant against pot smoking would probably do the same thing in their personal lives; I can't see it leading to much of an increase in drug use.

I completely agree. I'm an adult man I don't want other adults to punish me for what I do with my own life/body. As long as you don't hurt anyone else you should be able to do w/e you want.
Nothing more to add.