Shot in an artery, I think

[sixpartseven]

I think I just bupe/diphenhydramine into an artery. I didnt even think about it at the time, but I stuck into a normal injection site, registered and super light red blood spurted into the needle incredibly fast, shot, and then said fuck, because thats how an artery registers. Ive shot in this spot hundreds of times, the only difference this time was I had a whole length of a half inch needle in my arm, so it was definitley deep enough to hit an artery, but sometimes this vein requires I be super deep, but not all the time. The thing is, Jasoncrest told me if you feel the burn flowing up your arm, towards your heart, it was a vein, and thats what I felt, but does this apply to both arms, or just the left arm (most common arm used in IV) because I shot in my right arm? I suck at anatomy, sorry. Im just super freaked out and need some comforting advice, if there is any. I dont wanna get gangrene.

 

[Paralogic]

I would get some medical attention quick, dont know too much on the subject but better safe than sorry. Why on earth would you want to IV those two together anyways? I heard about kids smokin black tar mixed with benadryl and dying, I doubt what you just did is any better for ya. I hope your ok, but seriously get some medical attention immediately because that does not sound good at all.

 

[eon_blue]

I would get some medical attention quick, dont know too much on the subject but better safe than sorry. Why on earth would you want to IV those two together anyways? I heard about kids smokin black tar mixed with benadryl and dying, I doubt what you just did is any better for ya. I hope your ok, but seriously get some medical attention immediately because that does not sound good at all.

what? People IV opiates + antihistamines (ie: benadryl) all the time, it's a common method for potentiation...done it myself a couple of times with no trouble.

Any way about it, I'm unfamiliar with what to do in a situation where someone actually shoots into an artery, but medical attention is more than likely your best bet if you're really worried.

Although from what I understand, shooting into an artery is supposed to be incredibly painful, and you didn't describe feeling any pain in your post...

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

How are people shooting diphehydramine? Crushing up benadryl?

I've been confused on this recently and can't get an answer.

 

[GlassAss420]

Umm I don't know about that mix, but I'm 99% sure I've hit an artery 2-3 times with H, it was weird dark blue throbbing lines instead of light light blue barely visible veins and those 2-3 times it did burn all the way up my arm and took a little under 2 min to hit, I know IV hits in like 15-20 seconds max and this took at least a minute or teo and didn't give as complete a rush..

Long answer short watch your arm for signs of internal bledding or just anything really out of the ordinary, I wouldn't go rushing to the ER to get a huge bill over nothing.. you prolly already knew that much tho..

 

[hfrs]

It does sound like you hit an artery. The easiest way to tell is exactly what you commented on, the bright red blood and the higher pressure flow into the syringe. Arteries are under a lot more pressure and a lot of times you'll also feel like you are pushing against a lot of pressure.

After the injection, it is usually noticeable because it will bleed quite a bit more. Always, always, always if you hit one put a lot of pressure on it and make sure it clots!

 

[TDogUSA]

I was under the impression that shooting in an artey would kill you since it woud lead straight to you're heart. i guess thats wrong since you are still talking,

TheodoreRoosevelt, Ive shot diphenhydramine using the benadryl capsules, (not by crushing up benadryl tabs.) I just take out the powder from the caps. But Ive heard that using sleepinal (50mg diphenhydramine caps) (available in US) are better to use and safer.

 

[johnnyb420]

I was under the impression that shooting in an artey would kill you since it woudl ead straight to you're heart.

i was under the impression that anything that goes into an artery would go to the lungs


arteries deliver blood while veins return it


injecting into the artery would not go strait to the heart it would go to the end of the arterial system and then get returned via the capillaries and veins?


please correct me if my rudimentary understanding of bio i wrong




while this link is talking about a different drug it shows the result of injecting into an artery

http://www.annals.edu.sg/pdf/34VolNo9200510/V34N9p575.pdf

 

[hfrs]

No, it is not necessarily fatal - some drugs are meant to be given arterially tpa can be given i.a. There is nothing recreational that should be given i.a. though.

 

[fastandbulbous]

Injecting into a artery can cause arterial spasm, which effectively cuts off the blood supply to the tissues downstream of the injection site and if tissues are deprived of blood for long enough, the end result is gangrene due to anoxia & tissue necrosis. The only treatment to prevent this requires going to a hospital for a smooth muscle relaxant type of compound applied locally (ie there are no home remedies, that work, that I know of)

 

[SteeleyJ]

How are people shooting diphehydramine? Crushing up benadryl?

I've been confused on this recently and can't get an answer.

The times i've done it I used injectable ampouls. But i'm sure most people don't have access to theese and just put the powder from the capsules into a solution.

 

[phr]

Did it burn like hell? Did your arm/hand swell up? Was there a rush?

Those are both common symptoms of shootin' in an artery. As for the lighter color blood, that's a symptom too, but I've had lighter than normal blood come out of a vein before.

 

[sixpartseven]

Thats the thing, I got effects from it. Really good effects actually. It just took a bit longer than normal (like 4 or 5 minutes) to kick in. No swelling, and yeah it burned, but thats the good part out of all this (hopefully). Read on to see what I mean:

My main question that no one answered was to arteries flow towards the shoulder or the hands in your right arm? I ask because diphenhydramine burns when it flows through veins and the burn was flowing up towards my shoulder, which I know is supposed good because thats the veins flowing back towards the heart. But does that apply to both left and right arms?

Also, this is a normal injection site for me. Its weird though because Ive never gotten that good of a register from it before (except for like the very first time I ever used it) so that made it seem weird.

 

[sixpartseven]

Bump


All I need to know, because I cant find specifics using google, is do arteries flow towards your hand in both right and left arms? Thats all I need to know. I know its basic, but anatomy class was nap time for me in high school, so Im ignorant in this area.

 

[hfrs]

Yes, are you asking if each arm has their own arterial blood supply - yes they do, more than one artery to supply each side.

I just reread it, and you could also be asking if the direction is towards the hand, the answer to that is yes too the blood is re-oxygenated and sent to the hands (and legs and other places of course!).

 

[sixpartseven]

^ right, so if when I shot it, I felt the burn of the diphenhydramine litteraly flowing up my bicep to my shoulder, then its safe to say that it wasnt an artery right?

 

[narutokun]

Did it burn like hell? Did your arm/hand swell up? Was there a rush?

Those are both common symptoms of shootin' in an artery. As for the lighter color blood, that's a symptom too, but I've had lighter than normal blood come out of a vein before.

Same here, once I got surprised I was sure I was hitting a vein and really light and vivid red blood came into the syringe. :D

 

[sixpartseven]

^ yeah i think im freaking out over nothing. Ive had rare occasions where the blood from my vein that i was 100% sure I was in be bright red. The only thing that freaks me out about this was how fast it spurted into the syringe. The thing is, im not used to get registers like that anymore. When I first started to shoot, everytime I registered it was like that, but now i just get a little bit of blood show up at the bottom of the barrel, but thats because my veins suck. So, I think I just got a really good hit and it scared me because that never happens like that anymore.

 

[hfrs]

^ right, so if when I shot it, I felt the burn of the diphenhydramine litteraly flowing up my bicep to my shoulder, then its safe to say that it wasnt an artery right?

It's really hard to distinguish by "burning" only. Your blood is actually moving pretty fast, and what may feel like the drug traveling up your arm, could be irritation of either (vein or artery). This is why "burning" isn't a good way to distinguish arterial vs. venous hits.

Hitting an artery is one of those things that once you do it, you'll know exactly what you did. It takes quite a bit of force to inject against the flow! You will have to push harder than normal, it's noticeable. Depending on which artery you hit, it's not always that painful, so that also cant always be used to distinguish between the two.

The color is very different from venous blood, it has been re-oxygenated and is much brighter red, not the darky- bluish venous blood color. Sometimes it will appear kind of frothy or bubbly- it's pretty obvious that it is different from normal (vein) though.

Sometimes, if you're paying attention closely you will even feel the pulse pushing against the plunger. When you first go in and hit an artery, it will first push out in a pulse. If you ever feel this, immediately stop, definite sign of an artery!

I realize i'm not exactly answering your burning part of the question, but hopefully you understand why now, and how that doesn't really tell you what you hit. Let me know if anything isn't clear- pretty tired at this point!

 

[hfrs]

The only thing that freaks me out about this was how fast it spurted into the syringe.

It does sound like you just hit the vein right on and in a good, healthy spot! Also, if you pull back after you break through the skin like some people do, sometimes that will make the registration look much more forceful than usual! If the tourniquet was left on too long, you will get this too - the pressure builds up and it's noticeable when registering. One last thing that can do it is if you bp was just higher than normal, or even if it was just high that day. Could also be a combination of the above as well.