Short term imodium use before 1st sub dose

[themystic13]

Hey, I know that there are other posts sort of about this topic, but they seem to be from long term imodium users or those doing my process backwards.

I am trying to quit h, taking about a g a day of semi low quality NW stuff. Ive been trying to quit for a while and cant get thru the 24 period before taking my subs without caving.

Ibuprofen has helped some, but I was wanting to take some imodium JUST in the 24 hr span before my first dose of 8 mg suboxone.

Some say you go in pwd, but only if youre taking alot? Most seem to only get them if theyve been taking imodium for quite a while before.

So does anyone have EXPERIENCE with taking imodium, just to curb w/d symptoms right before taking suboxone?
Will the opiotes from the imodium enter my brain and cause my 24 hr period to go off track?



Another thing- ive heard people say you need to hit a 26 on the cow scale, and others say regardless of how you feel, 24 hrs is good enough.
But if I succeessfully cover up my symptoms just to make it to 24 hrs- I should be fine right?

 

[crzydiamond]

I tried exactly what you r asking about, took only Imodium for 32 hours( 32 hours no heroin ), and went into precipitated wd.

I was not a chronic Imodium user; used it rarely on days I couldn't cop ...

That precip wd was awful. Needless to say the first symptom to hit was diarrhea (almost laughable now but that was how I knew the precip wd was coming...after taking the sub a few minutes later I was running for the toilet...)

I never in my life thought after 32 hours past h I would get precip wd, I don't remember exactly how much immodi
I took but probably like 20 mg every 12 hours or so would be what I think. Not an outrageous amouń, I never took amounts in the hundreds of mgs or anything

Anyway I would not take Imodium to cushion that window before taking the sub. I regretted it a LOT. Or rather, once I took Imodium I should've stayed with that as symptoms were manageable. But I had work and was afraid I'd get worse. Well I sure did--ended up calling off cause I was in a world of hurt...

My advice is choose one or the other...

 

[RTrain]

It really makes no logical sense to hold off withdrawal with any type of opiate/opioid to reach the point where you won't suffer precipitated w/d. Your best bet is to use comfort medications and a small dose of immodium if you're having issues with diarrhea that you can't tolerate.

Here is what I have done and it gives an example of a decent way to get to the 24 hour mark (or close, I usually cave between 18-20, but I metabolize really quick, I can take Sub at 12 hours after my last dose, but it provides no relief and makes the transition harder and longer in my experience)....I will do my last dose at around 8 to 10 PM. I then wait to sleep, around 3-4 hours after that last dose. Also I make sure I have a large and nutritious dinner that night. Before bed I take about 25 mg of diphenhydramine, which I rarely use. This will knock me out quickly and cause me to sleep soundly for at least 8 hours. I wake up sick in mild withdrawal. But if I wake up and get moving around I find the w/d isn't so bad. At this point I try to wait until I start to feel the w/d get rough, then its time for the benzos. I prefer a mix of xanax and valium for this. Xanax is great for anxiety and provides some euphoria imo, the valium relaxes the muscles and also has its own type of euphoria. For some klonopin might work best for this, but I have had bad reactions to it recently (I use to love it). After using the benzos you might find a benefit from some marijuana, depends on how much you like it and how you react to it, plus the strain. If I am well benzo'd out I usually enjoy the weed, but otherwise it'd make me way too anxious, especially w/d'ing from H. At this point I won't be too bad off and just ride it out for as long as possible, then take the Subs. For me I usually would take 20 mg of valium and 2 mg of xanax to start, then maybe another 1 mg of xanax after 4 or 5 hours. Should get me to the point I need to take the Subs, as painless as possible. I know this is really useless if you can't get benzos, but if you can it is the best option.