Shooting Valium pills???

[KushNshrooms]

I was wondering how possible it is I was wondering if it's possible to put the crushed Valium in a dpoon with iso alcohol (since it ain't sulobale in water) then evaporate the ISO alcohol and add water and of course filter threw cotton

 

[neversickanymore]

Since benzos do not cause a stimulation to the dopamine reward pathway they do not cause any rush. For this reason shooting them will not produce much of a pleasurable experience.

The bioavailability of benzos taken orally is very high.

I do not think that benzos are very soluble in alcohol either.

For all these reasons I would consider just taking them orally as IVing anything comes with risks and it will not produce much if any pleasure.

 

[jackie jones]

More risk, same reward.

 

[KushNshrooms]

Yea so I've heard but the rush is it knocking you out n having you nod Valium is rather weak benzo IMO so shooting it would be better a it'd hit all at once n idk valiums solubility in alcohol with but it's for sure higher than water

 

[neversickanymore]

When administered orally, it is rapidly absorbed and has a fast onset of action. The onset of action is one to five minutes for IV administration and 15–30 minutes for IM administration. The duration of diazepam's peak pharmacological effects is 15 minutes to one hour for both routes of administration.[44] The bioavailability after oral administration is 100%, and 90% after rectal administration. Peak plasma levels occur between 30 and 90 minutes after oral administration and between 30 and 60 minutes after intramuscular administration; after rectal administration, peak plasma levels occur after 10 to 45 minutes. Diazepam is highly protein-bound, with 96 to 99% of the absorbed drug being protein-bound. The distribution half-life of diazepam is two to 13 minutes.[4]

Diazepam occurs as solid white or yellow crystals with a melting point of 131.5 to 134.5°C. It is odorless, and has a slightly bitter taste. The British Pharmacopoeia lists it as being very slightly soluble in water, soluble in alcohol, and freely soluble in chloroform. The United States Pharmacopoeia lists diazepam as soluble 1 in 16 ethyl alcohol, 1 in 2 of chloroform, 1 in 39 ether, and practically insoluble in water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diazepam

im not sure you will gain much

 

[Erikmen]

More risk, same reward.

Agree totally

 

[Nom de Plume]

Hehe, shooting benzodiazepines. Grow a pair and try an intravenous barbiturate. If you are a severely anxious chronic insomniac like me, I guarantee you'll swear you've just mainlined God himself. Fuck heroin, give me secobarbital.

 

[KushNshrooms]

I wish I could get secobarbital that'd be fucking awesome to bad it's so hard to get

 

[neurotic]

Hehe, shooting benzodiazepines. Grow a pair and try an intravenous barbiturate. If you are a severely anxious chronic insomniac like me, I guarantee you'll swear you've just mainlined God himself. Fuck heroin, give me secobarbital.

shit, now i wanna try it

i have ived phenobarb out of curiosity and found it absolutely worthless. tho i believe thats because it takes like 15mins to reach peak effects even when ived and well like neversick said, no rewarding effects from barbs...

would you care to explain

 

[PINKoPANaTHER]

I prefer Nembutal to Seconal. However barbs aren't water soluble either, and are prepared for IV sol'n in much the same way as benzos (5:4:1 water: prop. glycol:anhydrous ethanol, starting with EtOH and prop gly mixed, then slowly adding water)

[filtering with sterile 0.4 um filters is a must however, with special membranes that allow EtOH and prop. glycol to pass through]

 

[Nom de Plume]

I wish I could get secobarbital that'd be fucking awesome to bad it's so hard to get

Fortunately, barbiturates—unlike benzodiazepines—are not complicated to make. It's actually rather odd, in my opinion. In the United States, everybody always talks about drugs like barbiturates and methaqualone with such nostalgia, as if the drugs have somehow vanished from chemical space itself.

Meanwhile, I can find methaqualone in Mumbai about as easily as hashish—very easily, in other words. The reason Americans don't have access to these drugs is because they spend all their time talking about not having access to these drugs, rather than just making them.

 

[Nom de Plume]

shit, now i wanna try it

i have ived phenobarb out of curiosity and found it absolutely worthless. tho i believe thats because it takes like 15mins to reach peak effects even when ived and well like neversick said, no rewarding effects from barbs...

would you care to explain

I think that's highly unusual. Barbiturates are the most recreational drugs I've ever tried. But on the other hand, I've had people ask me why I use benzodiazepines and insist these drugs can't get you high.

Perhaps they only feel extremely euphoric to people with anxiety disorders. I dunno.

 

[Erikmen]

Hehe, shooting benzodiazepines. Grow a pair and try an intravenous barbiturate. If you are a severely anxious chronic insomniac like me, I guarantee you'll swear you've just mainlined God himself. Fuck heroin, give me secobarbital.

People really react differently. I had it originally in IV composition and felt like it was a buscopam.
While opiates man, put me on God's hands.. So warmth full, cozy. Euphoria, higher levels. And comfortable nods. It gets better, but it's harm reduction..

 

[Erikmen]

I think that's highly unusual. Barbiturates are the most recreational drugs I've ever tried. But on the other hand, I've had people ask me why I use benzodiazepines and insist these drugs can't get you high.

Perhaps they only feel extremely euphoric to people with anxiety disorders. I dunno.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[sigmond]

Hehe, shooting benzodiazepines. Grow a pair and try an intravenous barbiturate. If you are a severely anxious chronic insomniac like me, I guarantee you'll swear you've just mainlined God himself. Fuck heroin, give me secobarbital.

Is the experience of IV secobarb similar to IV propofol?

 

[Nom de Plume]

Is the experience of IV secobarb similar to IV propofol?

I can't really say. I've never had the opportunity to experience IV propofol. However, propofol apparently has a lot in common with barbiturates from what I've just read. But if it was anywhere near as worthwhile as secobarbital, it likely would have never been brought to market or used as an alternative to intravenous barbiturates. It seems to me that the primary reason propofol is even used is because it is so less powerful and recreational than barbiturates.

 

[sigmond]

I can't really say. I've never had the opportunity to experience IV propofol. However, propofol apparently has a lot in common with barbiturates from what I've just read. But if it was anywhere near as worthwhile as secobarbital, it likely would have never been brought to market or used as an alternative to intravenous barbiturates. It seems to me that the primary reason propofol is even used is because it is so less powerful and recreational than barbiturates.

Not sure what propofol is like when you have a tolerance. At the dentist you get a slight rush accompanied by strong metallic taste then you wake up about 30 minutes later having no recollection of the procedure. I can't imagine it being recreational unless you really like being unconscious.