Shooting Up

[nowordsleft]

Hey, I know there was another thread about this , but I looked back a few pages and couldn't find it. I've snorted heroin a few times, but wanted to start shooting it. (Please, no lectures. I'm aware it's addicting.) I did it like half an hour ago, but I'm feeling not much of anything. I did everything I was supposed to, except using cotton, because I don't have any cotton balls, and I didn't want to do something else that would've made it worse. I tried doing what I've heard, and pulling up to see if any blood came into the needle because I heard you're supposed to do that to see if you have a vein, but holding the needle with one hand and injecting into the other arm I couldn't pull it back; I couldn't do it with the other hand since I was injecting into it. I don't know if I got a vein, because I don't feel anything, but it didn't hurt at all when I injected it. I don't think it's because I got bad shit or anything, because I've gotten dope from the same person before (though last time it was brown, and now it's white-it can be white too, right?). I don't know if I used enough either, I used very little because it was my first time shooting it. So I guess my questions are, how much do you use and how do you pull back on the syringe to see if any blood comes up, and check if you're doing it right?
Also, it's a 31 gauge needle and only holds 50 units, if that helps. I can't really get any other kind, because that's what my mom uses for diabetes.
Sorry this is so long.

 

[LeadSingerDisorder]

Use the search engine. No need to post this as a new thread.

 

[LeadSingerDisorder]

heroinhelper.com will be very useful to you as well.

 

[johnnyb420]

really if you cant figure out how to pull back the plunger with one hand you should not be injecting.


also filtering is def something you should do if you cant come up with cotton again maybe you are not ready for shooting up

.if you really cant get a cooton or Qtip then use apiece of pocket lint or a cig filter

def filter especialy if you are shooting without registering which is equivalant to intramuscular injecting which is a really bad idea

 

[Harumscxarum]

really if you cant figure out how to pull back the plunger with one hand you should not be injecting.


also filtering is def something you should do if you cant come up with cotton again maybe you are not ready for shooting up

.if you really cant get a cooton or Qtip then use apiece of pocket lint or a cig filter

def filter especialy if you are shooting without registering which is equivalant to intramuscular injecting which is a really bad idea

how many times does this have to be said. Cig filters are not good filters. You're better off not using one if all you have is a cig.

 

[eon_blue]

really if you cant figure out how to pull back the plunger with one hand you should not be injecting.


also filtering is def something you should do if you cant come up with cotton again maybe you are not ready for shooting up

.if you really cant get a cooton or Qtip then use apiece of pocket lint or a cig filter

def filter especialy if you are shooting without registering which is equivalant to intramuscular injecting which is a really bad idea

I wouldn't recommend using a cigarette filter as a cotton; certain brands have particles of fiberglass in them that you do not want to risk putting in your veins.

However, I agree that if you don't take filtering seriously then you shouldn't be using drugs intraveneously.

 

[phr]

IV dose is typically around 50% of your intranasal dose.

Always filter. Don't use cig filters. (explained why not above)

Ask an experienced IV user(IRL) for help. If you're near a needle exchange, they could help you out as well.

 

[johnnyb420]

i agree cigs are not a very good choice for filtering but they are better than nothing some guides reccomend useing them the fibreglass story is myth


my whole point was this guy does not sound like he has done his homework and should not be shooting up yet

 

[phr]

I always held the barrel with my pinky, ring, and middle finger. That left my thumb and index finger free to manipulate the plunger. Never had a problem with it.

I've seen people stab themselves with one grip, completely let go of the rig, and then change grips to register/depress.

 

[narutokun]

I spoke to someone the other day that holds the whole syringe in there fist and register/injects with their thumb??? That's crazy talk, how the hell do you register with 1 finger.

i always use my thumb and my index to pull back, after i got a register i let go of the torniquette with my mouth, at first i inject pushing down the plunger with my index and thumb and then when i can i just use my thumb i never had any probs, i love pushing down the plunger with only my thumb i don't know why'd you see anything wrong with that although registering with only the thumb on a large rig is indeed hard. it can be easily done on smaller rigs though.

 

[nowordsleft]

However, I agree that if you don't take filtering seriously then you shouldn't be using drugs intraveneously.

I do take it seriously. I've read on it, and I know it's important. However, I have no cotton balls and wasn't sure if a small-sized q-tip would be enough to hold it. What I read said if you didn't have cotton balls or q-tips (which I wasn't sure I could use), you'd be better off not filtering than using something unsafe.
What is the worst that can possibly happen from not filtering? [I mean that as an honest, curious question, as I don't know the answer; I don't mean that to say that I don't care about it or something.]

 

[ifonly]

this is how i inject. with 1ml syringes if i just keep it to 60 units or less (i never need anywhere near that anyway) then its very steady and easy and ive never missed or had any issues. but supposedly its not that common. so yer

(pull back with thumb to register and then down to push in.)

also i use strips from rollie filters, thats what the people at the needle exchange told me, and thats why all fitpacks come with a few rollie filters in the bottom.they seem to work well and thatd be what 90% of people in australia do i spose. soooo whats all this shit about it being bad? pfft

my heroin dissolves 100% anyway, i mean i still filter just incase but ive never seen stuff left there, and i rinsed the cotton once after a big shot to check if there was any undissolved bits.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

did everything I was supposed to, except using cotton, because I don't have any cotton balls, and I didn't want to do something else that would've made it worse.

There's very little that you can do worse than not using a cotton. Cotton is the one and only thing that makes injection safe, you do realize this? Without cotton all the sand and shit in you're dope gets into your blood. Unless you're shit is vacuum sealed, there's gonna be some dirt or dust or some shit on it.

There are many things you can use as a filter in a last ditch situation, but its hard to believe you have no cotton balls, swabs, or q-tips nearby. You can use cigarette filters.

I mean jesus christ, look at the tabs on youre t-shirt. Made with cotton, no? What the fuck you wearing, leather clothes?

 

[ifonly]

how do u prep a q tip for filtering? pull the cotton off and roll it into a ball? how big would the ball be? and wouldnt that just put all the bacteria fromyour hands onto the filter?

 

[eon_blue]

how do u prep a q tip for filtering? pull the cotton off and roll it into a ball? how big would the ball be? and wouldnt that just put all the bacteria fromyour hands onto the filter?

You should always wash your hands before prepping a shot...

Then just roll up the cotton (or end of q-tip) into a tight little ball, drop into solution and go from there. Cotton filters don't have to be big, just so long as their tight they'll get the job done. Personally mine are never any bigger than peas when rolled up and dry...once they hit the solution they puff up to about twice the size.

 

[ifonly]

so is it better to pull the cotton off a q-tip, or to rip a bit off a cotton wool ball?

also a pea is fucking huge, i was thinking more pinhead size

 

[johnnyb420]

you should only need a tiny ball of cotton it does not matter if you get it from a qtip or a cotton ball tear off a very small piece, dont roll it to tight it can make it hard to draw up the solution.

you should put the bevel side down on the small ball that you make be careful not to push to hard you will bend the needle.

if using a two piece rig i always draw up with one needle then switch to a new one to inject .

if you clean the one you used to draw up you can reuse it.

about the bacteria transferring to the cotton ?
your hand and all surfaces you are working with should be cleaned and wiped with an alcohol pad if available or just use soap and water a sterile environment. should always be your goal.

you should read heroin helper.com there is some good info on that sight

i encourage you to read all you can about shooting before trying again if done right you can take most of the risk out IV drug use it will never be completely safe but you should do all that you can to minimize the risks

 

[CTdopeLove]

you should put the bevel side down on the small ball that you make be careful not to push to hard you will bend the needle.

Actually, you should place the needle on top of the cotton bevel side UP. This will prevent cotton from being pushed into the needle, as well as help prevent clogging if any particulate matter does make it through the cotton to the needle. Other than that, johnnyb's advice is spot on.

To the OP - Please read up on proper injection technique before you do this again, injection is something that can be extremely dangerous and harmful if you don't do it properly.

~CTdopeLove

 

[nowordsleft]

Thanks for all your replies, everyone .
Next time, I'm going to try using a q-tip to filter; I just wasn't sure whether that was completely safe or not. You take the end of the q-tip off and roll it into a ball, right? And that's enough?

 

[johnnyb420]

do not use the whole qtip if you do it will hold some of your precious drug just tear off a small piece and roll it into a loose ball ,


filtering is important but i think you have to do a lot more reseearch to completly understand the whole process of prepping a relitivly safe shot

good luck and dont rush into things that can lead to long term damage its not worth it in the long run