Heroin Shooting black tar, strange side effects after continuous use?

[nelsonmandela]

Long time heroin user. On and off for 10 years. Smoked it for the first 9 yrs. Started banging it the last year. The dope in my area is blac tar. It grosses me out to look at the nasty shit im putting in my veins. Ive noticed lately ive been having that tingling sensatin when youve lost circulation and your foot"falls asleep", in other areas of my body at random times. Like all the sudden my hand will "fall asleep" or my foot will, and ill have to shake it to get the circulation going again. This just started happening a couple days ago and Ive noticed it happening like 6 or 8 times a day. And t happens when im sitting in a regular position, not like when your arm falls asleep because you passed out in a weird position and cut off the circulation. So basically im wondering if the nasty ingredients in the tar heroin im putting into my veins are fucking up my circulation or fucking up my heart or something. Am I doing it correctly by putting my drugs in the sppon with the water, heating the spoon with a lighter until the drugs dissolve, filter it thru a piece of cotton from a q tip, then I let the needle sit for about 2 or 3 minutes to allow it to cool down so i dont inject hot liquid. Is there something more I can do to make it any "less bad" on my body. I finally got a handful of subutex so Im gonna be making another attempt to quit here again soon when I go on an extended vacation. My keyboard is fucked so sorry about missing letters in my sentences. Thanks for any replies. And by the way, as for the circulation issues ive been having, I am in my late 20's, average height and weight.

 

[itsok]

Gosh, could u talk to other people who have tried the same dope in ur area to see if they have had similar reactions?

Also, maybe by going on subutex and giving dope a rest, maybe the tingly cramp will stop.

When I was in the Bay Area, I shot black tar for 5 years pretty regularly and was making bank and injected alot of that nasty shit, so i dont think it is a build up unless there has been a new cut introduced, or that ur body reacts differently. I would guess that this is a short term thing.

What about trying to stretch in the mornings and throughout the day and taking magnesium and potassium to prevent cramps? Also, maybe do a little 2 mile jog to get ur circulation going?

 

[yb62338]

First off, your technique is pretty standard for IV heroin users. Where I'm from, the most common type of heroin is powder and tar is quite rare, but it's my understanding that tar is very hard on the veins and venous sclerosis develops somewhat rapidly in those who use it.

I can't offer you a medical diagnosis but there's a chance that many of your veins have become scarred and consequently narrowed and hardened. As a result, blood flow to these parts of your body has become restricted. Fortunately, the human body is an engineering marvel and your body will develop new veins to regulate blood flow. This is just my speculation.

 

[brighton]

micron filters will take out some of the cut/gunk

 

[muvolution]

You have compartment syndrome. You can read about it in the Injecting Megathread. You should mix the shit with sterile water, DON'T HEAT IT, just dissolve it thoroughly, you can backload a syringe with cut up pieces of tar or freeze it and then grinder it so it is a little powdery... measure out whatever you will use immediately unless you have bacteriostatic water, in which case you could make like 12hr worth of shots at once.

Anyways, backload it(in a 3 or 5mL syringe), put the plunger back in and suck up 1mL (slightly more) of water, screw on the micron, put the needle on the end and filter into a sterile vial, then just use your insulin syringe to get into the vial, suck it up, and hit yourself. It may still be brown, but it will be crystal clear... like suboxone after micron filtering is crystal clear orange, dox succinate is clear blue, etc... but it will be so much safer for you.
You can get everything but the microns on Amazon.com (pins, sterile vials, sterile tourniquet, alcohol swabs, 3 or 5ml leur-lock syringes, etc...) then just GPZservices.com for the microns. I know they seem expensive, but just put yours out to dry, then in the fridge and it will last a week or two.

EDIT: Actually black tar is so gnarly, you should just get bacteriostatic water (3 30ml vials from hospira on Amazon.com : $8.00) so that your vials and stuff can be used for up to a month. It will also keep your one or two micron filters way cleaner. I would also suggest a bottle of isopropyl alcohol ($1.29 at walgreens) to wash your large mixing syringes with after pushing through the unfiltered solution. This will keep things safer. Also, just rinse your sterile ampule (the 10mL pre-sealed ones are like .79 on Amazon) so get a few, with isopropyl also every few times just to keep things sterile.
Also, get a bottle of Vitamin E capsolues to rub on the injection site to keep your veins viable and the scarring down.


so... 90ml Bacteriostatic water: $6.00
2 mixing syringes: $2.00
3 sterile ampules $2.00
1 box Alcohol Swabs: $3.00
1 box of 100 1mL 1/2" 30g Insulin Syringes: $7.00
Amazon Shipping $4.00

Total: $24.00 for 100 shots (probably more if you have people you shoot with) equals .24 a shot to shoot completely safe, and that's just limited by the syringes...
$24.00 + $14.00 ( 200 more syringes) $38... or .13 per shot...

you could probably get supplies for a year for even cheaper.
2000 points ( a box of 20 of #100) for $75.00
20 microns $60
50 mixing syringes $15.00
50 ampules $10.00
Crate of bacteriostatic water (9000mL or 30 30mL) $30.00

that's .09 per shot. what's the excuse for not doing that?


fuckin sticky this shit.


See how that works? It is way cheaper to take what you were going to spend on 2 balloons and it becomes incredibly cheap for you to shoot safely, sterile, and without affecting grievous harm on your veins, your lungs (where all the particles and cut accumulate), and your extremities (where particles also accumulate, black tar heroin has also been known to cause gangrene in the extremities, so you should absolutely micron filter this shit.
Someone make this post a sticky.

 

[Fireandrain]

I just whipped up a batch of ready mades to take with me tomorrow. How do you like to store/carry them?

 

[muvolution]

I use either an eyeglass case or this little single-carry syringe case I got for free last time I ordered points.

 

[rocketqueen]

Black tar heroin is FILTHY. When I was using H I had never even heard of filtering the stuff. In fact, I just learned today from this board that you can! It is an EXCELLENT idea to filter tar. The stuff is nasty, coyote hairs n' shit in it...

When my veins went south I injected a lot into my lower outer thigh, missing with some frequency. Ten years later, that whole area is numb. I surmise that it is some kind of internal damage from the cut in the H.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

You always want to filter black tar heroin.

 

[95Land]

Lemme just second that you HAVE TO FILTER YOUR SHOTS!! Especially with fuckin tar. Same goes for our lovely Northeast powder. Shit dissolves into what looks like a clear, clean solution. There's still stuff you don't want in your body floating around in there. Use a piece of qtip, or better yet, get some micron filters. Filter. Always. You can kill yourself regardless, but you're putting yourself at distinct risk, if you're just sucking shit up.

 

[tricomb]

BTH dominates the west coast. What I did was micron filter all of it, then either slowly evap the water (or use it as a nasal spray) and smoke it.

no way I'd put a drug named TAR in my veins again.

 

[MizzCharmz]

i carry them in my wallet.... only place in a purse that will safely hold them without risking something pushing down the plunger

 

[MizzCharmz]

also in reference to the topic at hand... I lost feeling under my left arm (in the armpit area) about 2 months ago... prob same thing