Do you think I could safely shoot 2mg dilly although my tolerance is very low. My tolerance is about 30mg of oxy or hydro and I'm feeling it. 45mg and I'm flat out good. So, right now it's pretty low. Do you think I should shoot 1 or 2mg. I don't want to waste them as I only have 10. Thanks.
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shooting 2mg Dilaudid
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How long to wait between shots to not lose the effects. Sometimes with other opiates I lose everything if I shoot to closely to one another. This is a first with Dilly's though.
I just got a hold of these but have read horror stories about Junista. However, I can't find any info on the 2mg IR tabs. Can anyone shed some light on these? Are they really IR, soluble in water, have binders/fillers? Can you shoot them safely? I have no micron filter but they don't seem to have any covering or plastic layering like those in the higher mg count. Any help would be appreciated.
I just got a hold of these but have read horror stories about Junista. However, I can't find any info on the 2mg IR tabs. Can anyone shed some light on these? Are they really IR, soluble in water, have binders/fillers? Can you shoot them safely? I have no micron filter but they don't seem to have any covering or plastic layering like those in the higher mg count. Any help would be appreciated.
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Druidus
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You're very much correct; if you don't wait long enough between doses of IV opiates, you won't achieve desired effects.
What worked for me is waiting roughly eight hours between shots. That's not perfect, but it still gives you a great rush and a good high afterward. If you can't go eight hours (like me, at my worst during my hydromorphone addiction), then try to last at least 4.5-5 hours, and you'll get a somewhat lessened rush/high.
What worked for me is waiting roughly eight hours between shots. That's not perfect, but it still gives you a great rush and a good high afterward. If you can't go eight hours (like me, at my worst during my hydromorphone addiction), then try to last at least 4.5-5 hours, and you'll get a somewhat lessened rush/high.
Venrak
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It depends what you're after though; the rush is basically you skyrocketing from baseline(0) to high(10) in a matter of microseconds. The closer you get to baseline before booting again, the greater the rush will be. Over-all blood concentration will be higher after the second shot, but the rush will be lessened since going from 5-10 is less of a change than going from 0-10.
They have binders and fillers and you need a micron filter to safely shoot these. The coating isn't the only dangerous thing, it's the binders and fillers too. There will probably be a few that will say it's fine to shoot these pills without a micron, in all honesty the risk is not worth the rush.
Also, for the sake of clarity, since not all countries use the same brand names, please avoid using such names, and simply use the generic name.
They have binders and fillers and you need a micron filter to safely shoot these. The coating isn't the only dangerous thing, it's the binders and fillers too. There will probably be a few that will say it's fine to shoot these pills without a micron, in all honesty the risk is not worth the rush.
Also, for the sake of clarity, since not all countries use the same brand names, please avoid using such names, and simply use the generic name.
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Not sure what the generic name for these is, although I know it's DILAUDID (hydromorphone hydrochloride). Other than that, this is the first time I have seen this strange brand with such an array of chemical deterrents built into the pill. Anyway, cheers for the heads up. It seems such a waste to not shoot these 
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mysticmusic
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If your doing 30mg Oxycodone you should be fine with 2mg D. I used to do 2mg when I was opiate naive and got plenty high but not dangerously so.
Now I start at 4mg and add another 4mg(4mg, then 8mg, then 12mg, etc) for each subsequent shot the same day.
If you don't want to waste them, keep as much time between injection as you possibly can( a week would be great) and tolerance/tachyphlaxis shouldn't become a problem.
Now I start at 4mg and add another 4mg(4mg, then 8mg, then 12mg, etc) for each subsequent shot the same day.
If you don't want to waste them, keep as much time between injection as you possibly can( a week would be great) and tolerance/tachyphlaxis shouldn't become a problem.
smokemctoke420
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1 seems like it would'nt be the rush your looking for. i dont think that 2mg will be extremly overpowering but should definetly be nice.
i havent IVed this but ive plugged it and 4-6 mgs PLUGGED,not IVed, was good for my first time and i only got a 20mg oxy tolerance. you should be set with 2mg.
i havent IVed this but ive plugged it and 4-6 mgs PLUGGED,not IVed, was good for my first time and i only got a 20mg oxy tolerance. you should be set with 2mg.
Venrak
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If you aren't after the rush and you would like a longer effect, I suggest you administer them rectally, in solution.
It's hydromorphone.
I'm merging your two threads because you could have asked all your questions in one thread.
Not sure what the generic name for these is, although I know it's DILAUDID (hydromorphone hydrochloride). Other than that, this is the first time I have seen this strange brand with such an array of chemical deterrents built into the pill. Anyway, cheers for the heads up. It seems such a waste to not shoot these
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It's hydromorphone.
I'm merging your two threads because you could have asked all your questions in one thread.
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Nicsdragon
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Wow I was just looking for this same advice. I do about 90-120 mg roxi and 160 mg oxy daily. Would 2 mg hyrdomorphone be enough to shoot or go with 4 mg. I don't wanna waste the 1-2 pills when I'm pretty sure 2 pills would be the route for me. Now do you mix the same way as H or IVing the roxi's?
Can anyone tell be about these micron filters. I want to be safe as possible and I've been using cotton and the likes. Since micro filters are legal I presume where do I get them? Head shop?
LuV
Can anyone tell be about these micron filters. I want to be safe as possible and I've been using cotton and the likes. Since micro filters are legal I presume where do I get them? Head shop?
LuV
Thanks for the merge. I was secretly hoping you'd do that. Nice heads up. I've only found micron filters through the internet. I believe there are a few threads on how to find these and safely shoot as well. Perhaps the mod can direct you. Although I just wanted to know if I could go water cotton shoot. After dissolving one in solution it looks like these have loads of binders fillers and preventative measures built in so IMO these Jurnista IR's are not really IR and unsafe to shoot. DAMN!!!
Also, plugging Dilaudid is about as effective as snorting. Many conversion charts rate these ROA's as higher efficacy but I beg to differ. IMO they both are a complete waste of time and you should either swallow or IV for any real effect. However I'm open to opinions.
Also, plugging Dilaudid is about as effective as snorting. Many conversion charts rate these ROA's as higher efficacy but I beg to differ. IMO they both are a complete waste of time and you should either swallow or IV for any real effect. However I'm open to opinions.
Just a few of my observations as dillies are my DOC for pain management in no particular order.
Have you tried snorting them? oral bioavailability is ~25%. insufflated ~50% IV ~100
Banging them is not my thing, but my girlfriend was a banger of anything opiate. I prefer snorting them. I am just not a banger.
The Watson brand had more fillers, but seemed to hit faster for snorting. The Roxane brand had less fillers but took slightly longer to abrob nasally for some reason. My girlfriend like the Roxane better for shooting. She filtered through a cotton ball and learned not to heat it like H. she was too lazy to plan ahead and get some Micron filters.
The first time I snorted it, I felt perfect. No pain, no problems, and energetic; like I was perfectly healthy athlete. I never achieved that feeling again. But for pain control without waiting an hour for onset and getting more medicine than the doc will give me.
My girlfriend having banged H said the rush was very short and always wanted increasingly larger amounts to shoot. If you have used Heroin, you will be somewhat disappointed because the high is shorter and a lot less intense.
I read many of John Burrows posts and tried plugging a few times. The results were very inconsistent. Plus, you can't exactly do that stealthily at someone else's house.
And lastly, my girlfriend says she has not met an occasional banger. Once you start you're fucked. I chose to believe her and stick to snorting it.
Have you tried snorting them? oral bioavailability is ~25%. insufflated ~50% IV ~100
Banging them is not my thing, but my girlfriend was a banger of anything opiate. I prefer snorting them. I am just not a banger.
The Watson brand had more fillers, but seemed to hit faster for snorting. The Roxane brand had less fillers but took slightly longer to abrob nasally for some reason. My girlfriend like the Roxane better for shooting. She filtered through a cotton ball and learned not to heat it like H. she was too lazy to plan ahead and get some Micron filters.
The first time I snorted it, I felt perfect. No pain, no problems, and energetic; like I was perfectly healthy athlete. I never achieved that feeling again. But for pain control without waiting an hour for onset and getting more medicine than the doc will give me.
My girlfriend having banged H said the rush was very short and always wanted increasingly larger amounts to shoot. If you have used Heroin, you will be somewhat disappointed because the high is shorter and a lot less intense.
I read many of John Burrows posts and tried plugging a few times. The results were very inconsistent. Plus, you can't exactly do that stealthily at someone else's house.
And lastly, my girlfriend says she has not met an occasional banger. Once you start you're fucked. I chose to believe her and stick to snorting it.
Nicsdragon
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Back in the 90s plugging was called poopsidoos in my circle!! Haha. Like that name WAY better. Haha!!
FYI: Drugs.com lists all the inert ingredients once you determine the manufacturer of the hydromorphone you are receiving. The Watson brand I used to get contained 4 fillers/binders. The Roxane brands I get now only has two fillers.
I insufflate mine. Oddly, I seem to feel more with the Watson's than I do the Roxane's. I have not tried the non-generic.
In a similar thread that was closed due to "promoting IV use", it was also suggested that plugging was more effective. However, there are many older threads that point out there is a lot of inconsistency with that ROA. My personal experience was the same. It was never consistent enough for me to count on that ROA to do the job. Many others concurred with similar experiences. Apparent, John Burrows had it down to an art and he is the king of plugging. I believe there is a plugging megathread if you want to investigate it.
I insufflate mine. Oddly, I seem to feel more with the Watson's than I do the Roxane's. I have not tried the non-generic.
In a similar thread that was closed due to "promoting IV use", it was also suggested that plugging was more effective. However, there are many older threads that point out there is a lot of inconsistency with that ROA. My personal experience was the same. It was never consistent enough for me to count on that ROA to do the job. Many others concurred with similar experiences. Apparent, John Burrows had it down to an art and he is the king of plugging. I believe there is a plugging megathread if you want to investigate it.
thesameoldfears
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I've never seen a 2mg hydromorphone that had "preventative measures" and wasn't okay to shoot (as okay as any pill will ever be at least). Obviously it will have a lot of fillers compared to the tiny 2mg of active ingredient but all pills do. Are you saying these gel or something?
Surreal25
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I've been shooting the dilaudid tabs for years and 2mg ones too. They do leave behind a lot of binders but after many years I've never had a problem as long as you do it right. All mg dosages are okay to shoot but with ur tolerance I wouldn't do more than 4-6 mg at once depending on what youre trying to achieve experience-wise.
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IMO, someone could use 2mg and be totally naive to opiods. I have seen casual Oxycodone users stick 8mg in their arm. I didn't use 8mg until I had some experience and tolerance. The most I ever shot was about 20 mg and it was one hell of a ride and a little scary. Dilaudid is awesome but unbelievably addictive and when shooting it, tolerance goes up fast.
You are wasting dilaudid if you dont wait a few hours between shots. It varys and you will have to figure out the time. Dont expect to redose right after that beautiful high and have it happen again.
You are wasting dilaudid if you dont wait a few hours between shots. It varys and you will have to figure out the time. Dont expect to redose right after that beautiful high and have it happen again.