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Misc Shocking blood pressure reading while on a few substances

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The substances I took was weed i was abit stoned, kratom maybe 5 or 6 grams, my 13mg paroxetine, a bit of coffie, i decided let's check my blood pressure because i began to feel a warm sensation going up my neck and it was a shocking number, 141/105!! that was one of 3 readings the others were 135/101 and 131/94.. i rarely worry about blood pressure its usually 12x/80ish but this must be hazardous no? it's not so much the 141 it's the 105 dia that really concerns me, i really gotta get off these anti-depressants its made me feel heated before,
 
Thats probably due to the paroxetine/kratom combination. Both increase BP i believe. Are you sure on the paroxetine dose? They dont come in 13mg doses do they?
 
im sure it was more like 15mg i broke a piece off and went by that but yeah ive had this happen before where i feel warm after doing them together, I need to start regulating better and not do these together
 
30mg tablets i presume? Why break it in half (out of sheer curiosity). How much kratom and what strength extract?
 
Anxiety could cause a blood pressure like that. The combo of Kratom and caffeine will cause stimulant like effects that will exacerbate anxiety caused by the marijuana.

Thing is anxiety from marijuana use isn't the typical anxiety. This seems like a reaction of the sympathetic nervous system to put your body on high alert so to speak. Everything tenses up, including heart muscles, so you have the raised BP and the increased heart rate. Breathing might also feel odd and the sense that your bronci dilate.

At least the pulse pressure is adequate. I would be far more concerned with a raise in the diastolic and no change to the systolic
 
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I've had insane BP readings from kratom alone. 5-6grams can be alot depending on extract and tolerance.
 
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Anxiety could cause a blood pressure like that. The combo of Kratom and caffeine will cause stimulant like effects that will exacerbate anxiety caused by the marijuana
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Right before i felt the heat go up the back of my neck I began to think fearful thoughts and worry about stuff that was going on aswell

and it was 5 to 6 grams of grinded kratom powder its just crushed leaves
 
it was actually a 20mg, i took half and ripped half off the other half
 
It wasnt the blood pressure thing i was worrying about I was just thinking racing somewhat fearful thoughts than the feeling began
 
Did you pick the leaves and grind them yourself ? Or was it bought from a head shop or vendor. Salvia is dried leaves, treated to produce varying strength extracts from 5x all the way to delusion heaven. There are different grade extracts of krat in the same way.
 
I get similar issues from smoking weed. If I smoke too much it just will hit me out of nowhere. Some odd fear creeps into my head and I wig out. I feel stiffness inside my chest, breathing doesn't seem right because the airway opens up, like I don't feel like I am getting full breaths because breathing is too easy. My BP will likely be something like those readings you got. It can be very distressing and is why I do not smoke weed much anymore, although I was once an everyday, multiple times a day smoker. It didn't happen every time, but when it did it was pretty awful. I eventually just stopped smoking regularly. The only time I will now is if I am on a benzo or drinking, both seem to keep my anxiety down to prevent a major panic attack. It sucks, but its definitely not abnormal, many people have this reaction to marijuana.

At the very least I would not mix caffeine with the marijuana. That is just going to increase the risk of anxiety attacks. When I use to smoke regularly I never drank caffeinated beverages, I knew it'd be asling for trouble. The Kratom can also have a stimulant like effect when taken in certain doses. I actually took some Kratom today and after the initial 3 hours of a decent buzz I got incredibly shaky, I think because as it wore off the stimulant effects took over.

I also work as an EMT and I have dealt with many people having panic attacks and a blood pressure with a irregularly high diastolic is normal for them. Especially in those who were suffering from a marijuana related panic attack or also alcohol hangovers seem to cause them a lot.
 
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from a vendor it was from us ahem i assume theyre just grinded leaves that's the way they came isn't all kratom extract a different color and. expensive
 
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We arent supppse to discuss sources i believe. If i thought i could eat 6 grams of dried kratom leaf to get high i would have a kratom jungle in my back garden instead of relying on the NHS dispensing a box of tablets every week to feed my habit.
 
Isnt 6 grams kind of a lot? a 000 gelaton capsules fits 1.25 gs so 4 of those is 5 grams with gives you a buzz no?
 
That makes no sense? If 4 of the 5 grams gives you no buzz at all, then you would make more sense saying "1 gram gives you a buzz".

Or the kratom is that crappy you need 5 grams to feel jack shit. Regardless, I've a bit of an opiate tolerance so i need "kind" of a lot anyway.

Regardless, we're getting a little off topic.
 
You can stop tripping. 141/105 is nothing serious in the short term. It would be slightly damaging, if it would be permanent. Despite that you should not mix drugs, if you don't know the risks of the interactions. Kratom alone has so many alkaloids, that bind to different receptors/transporters, that it is very difficult to estimate the outcome of a combination accurately. If I would be you, I would not take combinations, when I wouldn't have the experience with any of them solo (as it seems to me). Plus you seem too young to take substances.
 
That is not insane BP, considering normal ranges are 120/80(ideal), 130/90(normal). It's worrying (slightly) at best.

I was mislead by the title of this thread and have wasted my time now! I wish I could have it back.

MY bp for the record was 190/120 when I stopped oxy 600 mg a day habit (not by choice) - my doc was outright shocked said it was extremly dangerous to stop that much overnight (but I ran out of money for legit RX waiting for me) and it's a heartless world (for that day). I was hoping to find something similar here. SIgh
 
I've had blood pressure readings that have scared me at the dentist's office plenty of times...but, at the same time, they do my BP when I'm swishing a Listerine-like substance in my mouth and they did it with a not-the-most-accurate wrap-around-the-wrist device to read it. However, added on to this is just a ton of anxiety I get by going to the dentist's office...I always fear that they'll be able to tell I smoke weed, whether from how green my tongue usually is to..well, whatever, the point is they can't tell and I always get overly anxious for nothing. And my blood pressure is always higher than it should be there. But yeah, if you know you're going to get your blood pressure read in advance, you should detox for a day or so to get it normal-ish. 141/105 is slightly shocking, if you aren't expecting it, but it's nothing insanely crazy. If you think it was caused by the drug combination, nothing to worry about...if it's a long term lifestyle problem though, yeah, you should get on that. At least get down to the 130-90 range..
 
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