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Shadow People: Stories + Theories

shreddedlettuce said:
Meth plus sleep deprivation creates a whole other world.
Not sure if this thread is in the correct forum, but after reading your post it reminded me of a DXM "trip" decades ago.
Don't laugh, but I managed to become a tennis ball at Wimbledon.
The closed eyed visuals were HD quality not to mention all the other senses.
I had total control of what I wanted to "see".

Mind blowing shit.

I'm sure this is going to be moved to DC or closed, so I am glad I got my tennis ball experience onto BL.
;)
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ahaha yeah i had a trip once when i used to huff rubber cement where when i closed my eyes the long armed green thing from Yo-Gabba-Gabba and the red one had their arms boxing this little girl in and their other arms holding her down and she was screaming and everything was moving closer and farther and they were all flailing their arms. i opened my eyes like wtf did i just i don't even.
and PLEASE, if anything just move this thread, not close. it's something i've been wondering about for a long time..(:
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
It's just another aspect of amphetamine psychosis. What else do you want us to tell you?
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well obviously but like, here's how i'm seein' it;
okay first why is it that people usually hear the shadow people or familiar voices?
Is there anyone who hears anything different from the average?? if yes, like what??
Why was i able to hear songs that i'd only heard a few times and couldn't have even come up with the beat or a single lyric if i tried normally, with radio quality; occasionally entire songs???
what is it about a person that makes them hear actual people as opposed to endless radio, or any other abnormal auditory hallucinations???? or i guess like shadow people/random voices talking to each other, themselves, or you vs. radio/tv program/etc.
 
The whole point is that you didn't actually hear these songs, but due to psycosis you thought you did. If you had got a pen and paper and written the lyrics it would not have made any scene.

You hear familiar voices because your brain knows what they sound like.
 
FlippingTop said:
The whole point is that you didn't actually hear these songs, but due to psycosis you thought you did. If you had got a pen and paper and written the lyrics it would not have made any scene.

You hear familiar voices because your brain knows what they sound like.
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i was asking more like, why is it that for most people it involves someone talking, etc?? i never see/hear of much variation from that.
yeaah and i think they definitely made sense, some were even songs i knew pretty well lol.
and no that's not what i'm saying.. i guess that would be more of a psychology question??
 
Shit...I'd be rattled. I've only seen silhouettes peripherally a few times and it scared the hell out of me until I put two and two together and realised I should probably:

Call it quits for now and get some sleep. ;)

FlippingTop said:
The whole point is that you didn't actually hear these songs, but due to psycosis you thought you did.
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Consider your safety and how mild this is compared to how it could have been (or be), haveyoufoundgod...
 
I haven't been to that level in several months but that is when I have seen and heard the mystery folk. It is to that state of consciousness I personally will go so that I can enjoy those things. Last year being unemployed but still getting unemployment checks, I had some fun with stims and lack of sleep. For me day three would be very entertaining. For me, the 12 hours of sleep afterward were satisfying because I felt like I earned it. Weird. I know.
Your mileage may vary.
 
BloodTranceFusion said:
Consider your safety and how mild this is compared to how it could have been (or be), haveyoufoundgod...
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i've been to the far end of the spectrum, it's just with meth i never hear more than the radio lol.

ugly said:
I haven't been to that level in several months but that is when I have seen and heard the mystery folk. It is to that state of consciousness I personally will go so that I can enjoy those things. Last year being unemployed but still getting unemployment checks, I had some fun with stims and lack of sleep. For me day three would be very entertaining. For me, the 12 hours of sleep afterward were satisfying because I felt like I earned it. Weird. I know.
Your mileage may vary.
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yeah i used to enjoy that and would even stay up if i didn't have a fix back in the day, but i don't think my brain can afford any extra abuse, plus i work full time now aha.
 
After heavy stimulant binges with hardly any sleep - If there are no lights on downstairs, as i'm walking down them i will see shadows that often morph into shapes of human bodies.

Once after no sleep 2 days after a mephedrone binge - i was laying on my bed + playing a game of Fifa whilst talking to my friend at the same time. Yet the tv wasn't on. The game (xbox360) was so vivid and so realistic it was a complete mindfuck!

These things happen - best thing is to get some sleep eh! haha
 
i remember taking so much MDMA that I started getting visuals and playing snake on my mobile.

Then the snake slithered off and me and a match chased it all the way back to my uni room... :sus:
 
rizmatter said:
After heavy stimulant binges with hardly any sleep - If there are no lights on downstairs, as i'm walking down them i will see shadows that often morph into shapes of human bodies.

Once after no sleep 2 days after a mephedrone binge - i was laying on my bed + playing a game of Fifa whilst talking to my friend at the same time. Yet the tv wasn't on. The game (xbox360) was so vivid and so realistic it was a complete mindfuck!

These things happen - best thing is to get some sleep eh! haha
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lol mephedrone fucked me up, i'd been on one a while and went home, watched some tv in my room alone, but kept hearing my two friends i just got through seeing murmuring in an almost recognizable language about whatever comes on tv. i turned around to tell them to speak more clearly, startled when all i saw was my wall.. lol.
 
haveyoufoundgod said:
lol mephedrone fucked me up, i'd been on one a while and went home, watched some tv in my room alone, but kept hearing my two friends i just got through seeing murmuring in an almost recognizable language about whatever comes on tv. i turned around to tell them to speak more clearly, startled when all i saw was my wall.. lol.
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hahahahah. + welcome to the 'meph fucked me up' club on bl
 
BloodTranceFusion said:
Shit...I'd be rattled. I've only seen silhouettes peripherally a few times and it scared the hell out of me until I put two and two together and realised I should probably:

Call it quits for now and get some sleep. ;)

Consider your safety and how mild this is compared to how it could have been (or be), haveyoufoundgod...
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Haha, well thats the thing, for me before getting there myself these things seemed unpleasant to read about and i likened them to anxiety and my ptsd obsessions and paranoia with an attached element of fear, but in actual fact all these things are very entertaining for you at the time, 0 fear, at worst distractions and at best your own radio station (hell i wouldnt complain).

Yeah i wouldnt call any of the mentioned stuff psychosis since you can still reason with it and thus enjoy it like a game of "guess the filthy lie", i have learned to simply ignore audio (besides obvious stuff) as its the worst, constant lies and trickery. If in fact my dead grandfather is in the kitchen chatting to fred from school , they can come to the room to seek counsel like all the others!

I get music sometimes, but mostly just a stong buzzing sound that comes from everywhere and voices of family (some should be there, some not) and friends. For example if I am waiting for my mother to get back with some supplies i get tricked to check the kitchen at least every 20 minutes due to her voice, clear and real (her voice appears way more often then that, like every 30 seconds, but 20 minutes is how often it convinces me.

Lastly i checked a loud weird sound from the fridge recently that always happened on meth, i realized it wasn't completely fake, realized it was actually there, if i listened very closely it was extremely soft, while cooked it was loud enough to interrupt a convo.
Anyways, i realized and heard from others that the weirdness is all your audio amplified and a lot of the strange new sounds are misinterpreted.

I have a more accurate theory however! I feel that we normally ignore these sounds but the obsessive analysis and overactive mind on meth is consciously now reviewing far more input then normal. SO, a weird sound that the brain usually just gets past you may now be queried. Your brain is like, hell, i have no idea man, you usually just ignore this background stuff, maybe its XXXX. Now im betting that XXX is usually quite true to fact but im sure that your meth mind is like "air moving, creaking fridge part, dust travelling past my ear? "No my dear dear man! It cant possibly be any of these things! Why you say?! Because my irksome little friend, that would mean that you would be bothering me with this irrelevant nonsense on purpose, and ofcourse, ofcourse, you would never, never waste my time like this EVER, WOULD YOU BRAIN?! GOD has greater concerns then this you mortal husk! Do i need to punish you with 2 more days awake? No? Well then get lost and stop bothering me with anything else, go keep fear, common sense, reasoning and all the rest of em weak mistakes of nature company in the basement. Ill take it from here now you old slow lying bastard, im pretty sure i heard the cops earlier anyways, and that wasn't on your report you narc!
Anyways your meth brain says then that it must be more important then what that traitor brain told you. You better start providing your own explanations. And then eventually your brain gets annoyed with the queries and insults and starts to just make music or voices or whatever. Lazy bastard.
Basically you pissed off your senses and your reasoning filters by constantly questioning their usually trusted feedback (They where all collectively refereed to as brain previously so as to simplify things slightly). So they eventually give you the finger and take the rest of the day off. And this is how things start to get worse and psychosis happens! Its so obviously really when you think about it. And then when permanent damage happens its cause either you fired some of the important guys or they quit. Avoid this by keeping internal dialog civil. Boom, problem solved.
Now im convinced a similar thing happens when the little guy downstairs refuses to respond any longer but im not sure exactly which part of the brain i pissed off and who to ass kiss when the time comes. The rest of them wont tell me! I shall quest on for truth!

Please note this weirdness is enjoyable for me because i experience it during a very strong doses 1/4 of a gram or so oral, and at these doses you are like in a bubble of euphoria, 0 fear, 0 concerns, 0 anything but you and right now, even shit that should really worry you like health issues, doesnt, this was scary stuff, the state of mind was very destructive. I dont experience comedowns so this stuff may happen then and be far less fun, not sure. Oh, yes my bud on the comedown thought people where trying to break in to his house and heard them speaking outside etc. Psychosis. He confirmed that this was not fun (prob just cause it was not expected). All i got was a panic attack. Cause i treat my brains good. Good luck.

OK, another helpful hint. Soz i just realised my post is rather small and it made me feel a bit guilty.

So right now i can feel the voices getting worse and im starting to feel some bits of tired (1 night so far). Just heard my mom calling the cats outside while also on the phone in her room as well as cooking curry in the kitchen all at the same time, when i know she is not even here (or maybe thats the lie!?) arg ffs. When shit just gets ridiculous like this there is only 1 solution: I have found that on smaller doses the audio shit gets worse when it starts to ware off, which means its time for another dose to fix. I dont think this stops the voices but i think it boosts your tolerance, ability to interpret, not get confused, higher doses make the insanity much easier, obv until psychosis kicks in, but then you wont even know its not real anyways, so i guess tis all good and makes for excellent trip report. If you think your starting to cross over, just remember 1 thing: "Just because your paranoid or psychotic, doesnt mean they arent after you!" And enjoy.

I rem in my accidentally 1/3 oral dose the audio and visuals do get insane but its just 1 tiny disturbance utterly puny and insignificant to the scary logic crazed mind you have then. You just select your focus/task and release, at some point you will become aware it has been completed and you may select another target. Just 1 thing with higher doses, if you are experiencing something that you are obsessing over, must check just in case or cannot simply ignore, higher doses can cause uncontrollable focus/obsession with whatever this is, so beware

For example, fake knocks on bedroom door during fap session (fuking twisted trick this, you cant ignore it!) couldnt be ignored just in case it was a real knock (humans! Should they see whats going on in here, they would never understand, careful) so here a high dose simply had me staring at the door for hours obsessed, waiting, planning, preparing, listening, and its not possible do or focus on more then 1 thing on these doses. I swear if telekenisis or psychic powers existed they would first be discovered by a methhead on a high dose staring down the focus of his wrath with every last drop of will, focus, emotion and consciousness. I still believe our greatest thinkers could use a dose of this pure concentrated purpose for difficult problems like the meaning of life. I am still going to test a few sessions like this and ill post all the answers asap.
 
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FlippingTop said:
The whole point is that you didn't actually hear these songs, but due to psycosis you thought you did.
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You mean she did hear these songs, but since they were a hallucination, the auditory stimuli had no source. Sensory perception is sensory perception, whether or not the original stimulus was real or just a hallucination.
 
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