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Sexual innuendos/adult jokes in childrens cartoons. How u feel about it?
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AmorRoark
Bluelight Crew
Uhm, no I've been aware that adults obviously make the programs. This isn't some sort of revelation to me lulz. I've always found it bizarre to think of adults in drawing rooms & conference tables coming up with the next plotline for an episode of a really wacky children's show. It'd be very difficult for me to know what children like. I guess I've never been very connected with them.
Hey! someone's gottah dig the ditches!
:D
I've always believed that cartoonists smoke copious amounts of marijuana, or at least have an afinity for it. Oh, and it probably helps to be a bit of a big kid when entering such occupations.
...seems like a great creative outlet to me.
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I've always believed that cartoonists smoke copious amounts of marijuana, or at least have an afinity for it. Oh, and it probably helps to be a bit of a big kid when entering such occupations.
...seems like a great creative outlet to me.
AmorRoark
Bluelight Crew
I'm sure it's great. Michael, the cartoonist, clearly had the coolest room/job/personality out of all the dads in Three Men & a Little Baby.
junctionalfunkie
Bluelighter
The stigmatization of sexuality is simply a perversion of a natural process created and perpetuated by what we live in (unfortunately), a Judeo-Christian culture. The same is true for scatology, etc.
It's fucking ridiculous.... and obviously seeping into generations to come. Human Intimacy = perverse, while war, racism, casual violence are A-OK, and available for viewing on any Network at prime time.
And people wonder why the world is so fucked-up.
Jesus.
It's fucking ridiculous.... and obviously seeping into generations to come. Human Intimacy = perverse, while war, racism, casual violence are A-OK, and available for viewing on any Network at prime time.
And people wonder why the world is so fucked-up.
Jesus.
cow and chicken and rocko's modern life were part of the cartoon network's "cartoon cartoon" series (also including powderuff girls, dexter's lab, samurai jack, ed edd and eddy, etc) which were all actually specifically designed for adults and kids alike.
they weren't just kids cartoons.
they weren't just kids cartoons.
Busty St Clare
Ex-Bluelighter
By the time kids are aware of the more risque elements of cartoons they are just as likely to be thinking these things in day to day life. If you are aware of your sexuality you are probably also aware of your next door neighbours large breasts. It doesn't mean you will suddenly go out and have sex but you will probably start to have a dabble. Up until that stage you will probably not get the references and it will be just another thing that goes over your head.
aint that the truth.
i'm pretty sure brain was the top of those two.
AmorRoark
Bluelight Crew
^ lol!
Yeah. I would be more worried about the possibilty of my child growing up in a world where Gangster Rap glorifies violence and running drugs on a bicycle before one reaches puberty isn't all that surprising or uncommon.
Real talk.
PendulumAM
Bluelighter
yesterday I was actually looking up stuff about adult jokes in kids tv shows and movies, and I even had a bluelight post come up in my searches, but it was from 2004 so I wasn't gonna bump it. I don't even know what made me start thinking about adult humor in childrens programs. I guess great minds think alike
here are random examples I've seen:
-in an episode of Rugrats, Grandpa is babysitting Tommy, and he starts showing Tommy the cartoon videos that he brought for him. Then at the bottom of the stack, you see a movie called "Space Vixens" with hot alien girls on it. Grandpa chuckles and says "and this one is for after you go to sleep...."
-In Spongebob, Patrick says something smart and Spongebob tells Patrick "your genius is showing!" Patrick covers his crotch and goes "where?"
Episode where they are trying to sell chocolate bars door to door=
Patrick: I have a great idea - let's take our clothes off!
Spongebob: No, let's save that for when we're selling real estate.
In the beginning of one episode, Spongebob is watching a coral flower dancing around to porn sounding music on TV while he is grinning and glued to the screen the whole time. and then when his pet Gary comes in, Spongebob goes "Gary!", hurries to change the channel, and says "I was just watching the game..."
-In The Fairly Oddparents, Timmy gets a magic copy machine that changes pictures to real things. After he copies his moms food magazines, he says "now it's time to copy Dads magazines!"
Episode where Timmy parents become superheros:
Timmy's Mom: So, Timmy's gone and we're left here without any work. Are you thinking what i'm thinking?
Timmy's Dad: Yeah.
Timmy's Mom: Ohhh yeah (romantically)
Timmy's Dad: Yeah! It's time to fight crime
*Mom looks dissapointed*
Also my little sister and I watched a movie on the Disney chanel a few days ago called Another Cinderella Story (hey, I did it for my sister). Near the end, the bitchy, famous, evil character (played by Jane Lynch, the funny blonde woman from 40 year old Virgin and Role Models) falls off a stage and gets hurt bad. In the next scene shes in a wheelchair with a bunch of casts on and she starts yelling. One of the things she yells is "OxyContin is my breakfast! Its my lunch!" I was surprised they left it there on the Disney Channel.
There's a Hey Arnold episode where this kid is basically a chocolate junkie. He loves chocolate so much that he always looks sloppy & unkempt, spends all his money on it and eats it all right away, dumpster dives for it and even lets the mean older boys humiliate him in return for chocolate. Arnold eventually gets the kid off the chocolate, but then the kid starts to become obsessed with radishes that Arnold let him try...what a fiend
here are random examples I've seen:
-in an episode of Rugrats, Grandpa is babysitting Tommy, and he starts showing Tommy the cartoon videos that he brought for him. Then at the bottom of the stack, you see a movie called "Space Vixens" with hot alien girls on it. Grandpa chuckles and says "and this one is for after you go to sleep...."
-In Spongebob, Patrick says something smart and Spongebob tells Patrick "your genius is showing!" Patrick covers his crotch and goes "where?"
Episode where they are trying to sell chocolate bars door to door=
Patrick: I have a great idea - let's take our clothes off!
Spongebob: No, let's save that for when we're selling real estate.
In the beginning of one episode, Spongebob is watching a coral flower dancing around to porn sounding music on TV while he is grinning and glued to the screen the whole time. and then when his pet Gary comes in, Spongebob goes "Gary!", hurries to change the channel, and says "I was just watching the game..."
-In The Fairly Oddparents, Timmy gets a magic copy machine that changes pictures to real things. After he copies his moms food magazines, he says "now it's time to copy Dads magazines!"
Episode where Timmy parents become superheros:
Timmy's Mom: So, Timmy's gone and we're left here without any work. Are you thinking what i'm thinking?
Timmy's Dad: Yeah.
Timmy's Mom: Ohhh yeah (romantically)
Timmy's Dad: Yeah! It's time to fight crime
*Mom looks dissapointed*
Also my little sister and I watched a movie on the Disney chanel a few days ago called Another Cinderella Story (hey, I did it for my sister). Near the end, the bitchy, famous, evil character (played by Jane Lynch, the funny blonde woman from 40 year old Virgin and Role Models) falls off a stage and gets hurt bad. In the next scene shes in a wheelchair with a bunch of casts on and she starts yelling. One of the things she yells is "OxyContin is my breakfast! Its my lunch!" I was surprised they left it there on the Disney Channel.
There's a Hey Arnold episode where this kid is basically a chocolate junkie. He loves chocolate so much that he always looks sloppy & unkempt, spends all his money on it and eats it all right away, dumpster dives for it and even lets the mean older boys humiliate him in return for chocolate. Arnold eventually gets the kid off the chocolate, but then the kid starts to become obsessed with radishes that Arnold let him try...what a fiend
PendulumAM
Bluelighter
I didn't know what it meant until halfway through high school...I was a loser and a prude
Hey, I aint talkin about TEN year old kids knowin about 'carpet munchin.'
I mean kids who are like 5 and 6 watch those kind of shows. thats the shit that kinda gets to me.
Like i said, i understand if ppl aint read my one post becuz it was long, but i think people really aint understanding why I made this thread. It aint to be like , omg, this will corrupt the kids...It aint honestly even really ABOUT the kids....
Its about how parents are so lazy that they need to have jokes aimed at them even in their KIDS shows.....my whole point is just that if you are a parent you gonna get stuck watchin alot of crappy shows with your kid. and that is part of bein a parent. but just watch em, shit. I guess i just feel like it is a little selfish to put the stuff in there to entertain the parents. When it is super blatant shit, that kinda is weird to me, thats all.
Lefty.....IDK how they showed rockos life down by u, but in here it was just on regular kids TV programming.
Thats how i was talkin abut shit before....A show gets made with content that is definately more for adults, and is a show aimed at a little older audiences....And thats its original audience which is cool....But them some dumbass gets the idea lets put this show on KIDS TV hours, during blocks of kids cartoons and shows directed at kids , and the audience is like 6 . And then they end up thinking "Oh, well all "kids shows" have stuff like that in them" but in reality it aint a kids show. I think that alot of shows with some of the stuff like that in them is really originally intended for a older audience but becuz of the way TV works it ends up gettin slipped down in age....it might be for 12 year olds....But then they might put it in a time block for 10-11 year olds...And then it might end up gettin watched by 8-9 year olds....till its like 6-7 year old kids watching the shit that was originally meant for kids almost in Jr. high.
Dont get me wrong. i dont think kids should be all totally sheltered and kept away from the world. Im just sayin that while all these things is out there, and they find out about them naturally, let them find out about it naturally instead of on a cartoon that aint even suppose to have that kinda shit in it to begin with.
Junctionalfunkie....Aint sure where u get the idea that I would be all cool and good with giant ass war explosions and violence and shit like that....honestly yo....As far as im concerned.....Any movie with extreme violence, even extreme backstabbing bitchyness where people betray each other and lie to get ahead and shit like that, i got a problem with all of that stuff. For a kid Honestly, yea, I dont want my child when they are 5 years old watching a cartoon of a animated cow having a orgasm from getting his udder sucked off by a "milking machine" and then being sad when the farmer takes it away cuz he just looooooooves gettin "milked" so much. 8) that kinda shit is a lil over the top to me.
And before u think im anti sexual, etc....Shit, when i was 5 years old, by the time i went into kindergarten I knew wat sex was and how a baby is made. It didnt fuck me up and I will let my kid know and understand about that kinda stuff when they are young so it aint some kind of "bad" mystery to them thats seen as dirty or like some kids seem to think it is. i never felt that way about it. So i aint against kids KNOWING about "intimacy", but for real, lets not get it twisted that a cow-jerking-off-machine is "intimacy" yo. If you think "intimacy" is "a tomato giving fellatio to a ice cream cone shaped like dick and balls", then i aint sure wat your sex life looks like
JK obviously but im just sayin. just becuz you think that obvious, explicit references to masturbating and givin oral sex dont belong in the cartoons that a 1st grader is watching, that dont mean you are some kind of anti-sex puritan prude yo. Thats really over simplifying shit and it just aint true. sorry, i dont think sex is bad or wrong but i also dont think that kindergarten age children should be surrounded with sex in their TV, there is a lot more to life at that age and you got all the time in the world to get into that stuff....you get a few short years to just be innocent and NOT have your entire existence be focused on sex, so wat the hell is so bad about wanting to preserve those for a kid so that they dont know 18 names for "blow job" by the time they turn 6?
I mean kids who are like 5 and 6 watch those kind of shows. thats the shit that kinda gets to me.
Like i said, i understand if ppl aint read my one post becuz it was long, but i think people really aint understanding why I made this thread. It aint to be like , omg, this will corrupt the kids...It aint honestly even really ABOUT the kids....
Its about how parents are so lazy that they need to have jokes aimed at them even in their KIDS shows.....my whole point is just that if you are a parent you gonna get stuck watchin alot of crappy shows with your kid. and that is part of bein a parent. but just watch em, shit. I guess i just feel like it is a little selfish to put the stuff in there to entertain the parents. When it is super blatant shit, that kinda is weird to me, thats all.
Lefty.....IDK how they showed rockos life down by u, but in here it was just on regular kids TV programming.
Thats how i was talkin abut shit before....A show gets made with content that is definately more for adults, and is a show aimed at a little older audiences....And thats its original audience which is cool....But them some dumbass gets the idea lets put this show on KIDS TV hours, during blocks of kids cartoons and shows directed at kids , and the audience is like 6 . And then they end up thinking "Oh, well all "kids shows" have stuff like that in them" but in reality it aint a kids show. I think that alot of shows with some of the stuff like that in them is really originally intended for a older audience but becuz of the way TV works it ends up gettin slipped down in age....it might be for 12 year olds....But then they might put it in a time block for 10-11 year olds...And then it might end up gettin watched by 8-9 year olds....till its like 6-7 year old kids watching the shit that was originally meant for kids almost in Jr. high.
Dont get me wrong. i dont think kids should be all totally sheltered and kept away from the world. Im just sayin that while all these things is out there, and they find out about them naturally, let them find out about it naturally instead of on a cartoon that aint even suppose to have that kinda shit in it to begin with.
Junctionalfunkie....Aint sure where u get the idea that I would be all cool and good with giant ass war explosions and violence and shit like that....honestly yo....As far as im concerned.....Any movie with extreme violence, even extreme backstabbing bitchyness where people betray each other and lie to get ahead and shit like that, i got a problem with all of that stuff. For a kid Honestly, yea, I dont want my child when they are 5 years old watching a cartoon of a animated cow having a orgasm from getting his udder sucked off by a "milking machine" and then being sad when the farmer takes it away cuz he just looooooooves gettin "milked" so much. 8) that kinda shit is a lil over the top to me.
And before u think im anti sexual, etc....Shit, when i was 5 years old, by the time i went into kindergarten I knew wat sex was and how a baby is made. It didnt fuck me up and I will let my kid know and understand about that kinda stuff when they are young so it aint some kind of "bad" mystery to them thats seen as dirty or like some kids seem to think it is. i never felt that way about it. So i aint against kids KNOWING about "intimacy", but for real, lets not get it twisted that a cow-jerking-off-machine is "intimacy" yo. If you think "intimacy" is "a tomato giving fellatio to a ice cream cone shaped like dick and balls", then i aint sure wat your sex life looks like
JK obviously but im just sayin. just becuz you think that obvious, explicit references to masturbating and givin oral sex dont belong in the cartoons that a 1st grader is watching, that dont mean you are some kind of anti-sex puritan prude yo. Thats really over simplifying shit and it just aint true. sorry, i dont think sex is bad or wrong but i also dont think that kindergarten age children should be surrounded with sex in their TV, there is a lot more to life at that age and you got all the time in the world to get into that stuff....you get a few short years to just be innocent and NOT have your entire existence be focused on sex, so wat the hell is so bad about wanting to preserve those for a kid so that they dont know 18 names for "blow job" by the time they turn 6?
voxmystic
Bluelighter
i'd rather my child watch strait up porn than some of the kid's shows that glorify violence and war. we are born sexual creatures. sex is natural, beautiful. one human being punching, ir even shooting another is NOT natural, NOT beautiful.
characters constantly insulting and disrespecting each other teaches kids worse values than sexual innuendo. why can't they take THAT out of cartoons?
*edit* before anyone gets the wrong idea, of COURSE i don't pop a porn disc in for my kindergartener. i'm just saying that between the two, violence is by FAR more offensive than sex.
characters constantly insulting and disrespecting each other teaches kids worse values than sexual innuendo. why can't they take THAT out of cartoons?
*edit* before anyone gets the wrong idea, of COURSE i don't pop a porn disc in for my kindergartener. i'm just saying that between the two, violence is by FAR more offensive than sex.
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again, normal, young children who are censored from graphic sex do not understand what these jokes mean. do you feel like watching Saturday morning cartoons took away your innocence? likely not, because again, you didn't "get" the adult humor it was laced with.
i don't think parents NEED to have adult humor in children's flicks but in "family oriented" television, cartoonists and writers may write in some off-color jokes or adult themes so that it's more palatable to the whole family. at the end of the day, there is still some very "G-rated" programming specifically for children like Dora the Explorer and Sesame Street. i haven't looked at a TV Guide recently, but i would bet that many of the shows you find innuendos in, are on when parents are home to watch it with their children.
i also think that the examples you gave aren't super blatant. and unless the parent makes a big deal of the innuendos, a child isn't going to interpret it as anything more than silliness.
you are the parent to your children and there is plenty of programming available that is specifically geared toward them minus the innuendos. i just feel that when i'm a parent, unless the humor is explicitly sexual (and the examples you've provided in this thread are not what i'd consider explicit), i'm not going to censor my child from a cartoon containing the occasional innuendo because, at such a young age, they aren't going to "get" it. i think you're giving children entirely too much credit.
poWerPuff girls!!!
AmorRoark
Bluelight Crew
No offense lacey but you're kinda all over the place on your focus. First you make a post basically about how it's not fair to children then you say it isn't about children then you go back to talking about how kids shouldn't be seeing this kind of sexual innuendo. I think, in actuality, you're talking about both the ridiculousness of adults being 'selfish' and having sexual innuendo in the children's programs because as a result it's not necessary (or harmful) to kids. They're not entirely unrelated like you suggest at some points.
Also, as an aside, Rocko's Modern Life & a couple other programs you listed were never made for 5-6 year olds... they were made for 10-12 year olds for after-school viewing. If parents don't understand the easily understandable programming directions then that's on them IMO. Earlier in the day on Nickelodeon was for little kids, aka Nick Jr. Hence why there was Blue's Clues etc.
Also, though it's dumb that a male cow would be milked (this is a cartoon though so, yeah they kinda have license to do that IMO), it *does* feel good to be milked for a cow. It lets of pressure on their udders. Maybe the scene does look like an orgasm but I've seen a lot of children's shows where someone is peeing and they're like 'OMG YESSSSS' and I don't think 'jeez, sexual much?'.
I agree with the peeps who say it's mostly a non-issue because they won't get it/won't care that they don't get it as long as it's not explicit.
I tried to watch some of the videos you posted on cracked and I didn't find the Anamaniacs one explicit (nor did I really get it). I found the one with the Japanese beauty pageant really fucking weird but we don't live in Japan and apparently they only aired it once in the U.S. so I think that's a non-issue.
Also, as an aside, Rocko's Modern Life & a couple other programs you listed were never made for 5-6 year olds... they were made for 10-12 year olds for after-school viewing. If parents don't understand the easily understandable programming directions then that's on them IMO. Earlier in the day on Nickelodeon was for little kids, aka Nick Jr. Hence why there was Blue's Clues etc.
Also, though it's dumb that a male cow would be milked (this is a cartoon though so, yeah they kinda have license to do that IMO), it *does* feel good to be milked for a cow. It lets of pressure on their udders. Maybe the scene does look like an orgasm but I've seen a lot of children's shows where someone is peeing and they're like 'OMG YESSSSS' and I don't think 'jeez, sexual much?'.
I agree with the peeps who say it's mostly a non-issue because they won't get it/won't care that they don't get it as long as it's not explicit.
I tried to watch some of the videos you posted on cracked and I didn't find the Anamaniacs one explicit (nor did I really get it). I found the one with the Japanese beauty pageant really fucking weird but we don't live in Japan and apparently they only aired it once in the U.S. so I think that's a non-issue.
Cornishman
Bluelighter
I think it's a clever way of keeping the parents entertained.
rant*N*rave
Bluelighter
I feel like I should add that after helping to raise 20+ kids, I'm damn happy when they put those little adult jokes into kids' stuff. I've sat and watched plenty of the completely sterile kid shows (Blues Clues, Dora the Explorer, Barney, Teletubbies, etc), and it does get horrifically boring after a while. Obviously you have to put up with that sort of thing sometimes as a parent, but I don't see why it should *have* to be that way all the time if it doesn't really have to be.