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Severity of Withdrawal

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ElliePFay69

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I just have a question, I have been doing about 3 points of heroin consistantly a day for about 6 months. Now I have decided I want to quit and Im wondering how severe the withdrawals will be, and what would help the best with it? Today I only used one point as opposed to 3, and tomorrow i plan to only pop a 10 mg percocet, as well as one for the next day and then go cold turkey. do you think if done in this way the withdrawals will be as severe? I also plan to get some immodium, as I heard that helps.
 
I'm really scared to go through this.. I never thought I'd get into heroin, as most people do, I was one to say I'd never touch it
But I started with smaller opiates such as percs and oxys and moved into heroin as I went.
Now I am dreading it so bad I've been crying nightly. If and when I get over this, will any future opiate use trigger this addiction again? For example, If I was to use straight natural opium, from a poppy, will that trigger my addiction or W/D symptoms again if I had been clean for quite some time?
 
I know the feeling of dreading the withdrawals and regreting the fact that one got addicted so much that you are in reality clinically depressed while you continue to use anyway. USE this feeling to stop. You cry at night dreading to go through it - stop torturing yourself and get clean. You will feel bad, but use your percocet wisely and minimize the symptoms and use the advices you can find. Remember to have somethings to do you enjoy instead of being stoned as soon as the withdrawals allows it. You have to use your time and find new things that makes you happy.

Last summer i got clean from 3 years of tramadol, oxycodone, morphine and fentanyl abuse with the help from my ex girlfriend. I used her alot, I hope you have someone you can get help from? Anyway, after four months clean i decided a little tramadol one evening wouldnt do anything. Withdrawal wise it didn't - but I couldnt stop again before after three weeks where I again found my "salvation" in her and she convinced me to stop - surprisingly i didnt suffer any physical symptoms at all besides some tics and I could sleep without "help" and I was very happy that this was the case. But I wasnt strong enough to "use" opiates just once in a while after I had started agsin. So here I am today addictted again.

My point is - when you truely get clean and have been for a while you should be able to take it every now and again without being physically addicted from day one. BUT are you psychologically strong enough to keep it at a level that will not trap you in addiction again? I wasn't. And most people are not neither i suspect. I regret the first day i ever tried opiates and I regret the day that I tried them again after i got clean.
 
My boyfriend and I are both quitting, both want to, and have chosen tomorrow as our first day of detox.
We are stockin up on immodium and turning off our phones, and are spending 3-4 days inside
To get through the worst of the physical aspects. Were both quite good as far as dealing with
The mental and emotional aspects and not giving into cravings its just the physical part were most worried about.
I am a musician and I have used music to get me through addictions and strife before. I feel I could pour myself into
Music and writing as a form of therapy and maybe that would work. I'm hoping anyways. I really do want to get out of this.
Its been ruling my life for quite some time now.
 
^You're on the right track. Just make a point to keep the mindset that this is a temporary suffering to prevent greater future suffering, that time is relative, etc... You can do this, and I think the fact that you're quitting with your boyfriend will increase your chances if you both really want to quit.

You're not alone, there are a whole lot of us who are around to help you through this.

Let us know how it's going, ok?
 
Toz's tips for heroin withdrawal:

Benzos/lyrica/gabapentin for the first week, use only as needed (I'd prefer benzos only), skip this completely if you have been dependant on these drugs before then it's simply not worth the risk.
Loperamide if you absolutely need it for the first week, though it will slow things down.
Cannabis, as much as you could possibly smoke if you are a regular smoker like me.

Diclofenac is the best otc NSAID painkiller according to me. Use it, or something else if you like it better.

Buy lots of cans of soup and protein drinks, you won't want any food so it best be as easy as possible to get down. Avoid anything containing caffeine like the plague.

Tell your dealer to ignore you no matter what for 2 weeks...

...and suffer untill it goes away, which will be quite soon since it's heroin.
 
This hasn't been going good for me. Since i said i was quitting I kept doing it, and I havent done it for a few days now, and ive been trying to taper off with percs, which was working. I started to feel more normal and then I went and did half of a point tonight and i just feel so f*cking stupid. I didnt even really get high off of it and I realized how much I hate my life being this way. I was always such a strong person, I am NOT the type of person to be addicted to drugs and it makes me angry and ashamed that I've become this way and that I am doing this to myself. I've finally reached the point where I'm done with it. I've sat here for hours now being angry and ashamed and in tears over it, and doing it tonight did not satisfy me or make me happy at all. I have GHB and loperamide and I'm using them as needed to try to make this as painless as possible. Also considering going to the doctor to get a refill of clonazepam since I am prescribed them and I hear that helps. But this is it for me, I can't do this anymore... I can't sit around hating my life and wishing I wasn't like this, I'm the only person who can fix this and I have to stop being upset and take this into my own hands.
 
Hi, So after months of relapsing I ended up at about 8 points of H a day and it was eating up my bank account and was just getting worse and worse. So we got ahold of methadone and now we are kicking it once and for all. I havent done any H since thursday night at about midnight, Ive taken methadone doses daily, about 45 ml the first day and today I took a dose of 40 ml, so I downdosed it by 5 ml. I intend to do that daily. How long should I use methadone to get over the heroin withdrawal before I stop taking methadone? does anyone have advice on the BEST way to kick heroin using methadone?
 
so whats the best way to use it to get off heroin then? would i wanna use it just for the minimum like 5 days? use it till the heroin withdrawals are over and then kick it?
 
cuz i deff dont wanna be addicted to methadone, i wanna just use it to get past the physical withdrawals of heroin and then stop. is that possible?
 
Best bet is to taper down with the methadone. A 3mg reduction a day, or every few days, is supposed to work well.
 
i dont wanna be on methadone long, like i only wanna be on it long enough to get me through the heroin withdrawal. and then kick it. im just wondering if thats possible
 
No. You're still getting an opiate daily. You will still have withdrawal when you quit. You may be able to taper super low more easily, but you'll still have withdrawal symptoms when you quit.

Last time I kicked I used a 1 week sub taper. It was as close to painless as its ever been, but still no picnic.
 
and by one week sub taper you mean..? what exactly was your process if you dont mind me asking?
 
I had a small habit of 40-60 mg oxy/day. I used 4 mg of suboxone spread out over a week. My taper was : 1mg-1mg-.5mg-.5mg-.5mg-.25mg-.25mg. Pretty painless for me. Your dosages would be higher, as your habit is larger.
 
Not as well. Methadone is a full agonist. Suboxone is a partial. That means suboxone gets on your opiate receptors but doesn't get you "high". I'd taper quickly off the methadone. Not sure what that taper would look like, as I've never used methadone in that fashion.
 
If you are on 40mg now reduce by 5mg every day. If you feel you can handle it reduce by 10mg every day. Do not get dependent on methadone. The WDs last for ages. You will feel sick as you reduce the methadone dosage and you will feel sick when you stop to take it entirely, but a fast taper like this will allow the heroin to leave the body and also reduce the severity of the WD symptoms.

Some people say a slow taper is almost painless. I disagree. If you taper down slowly it may be easy going from 40mg to 5mg, but the real WDs will start when you go from 5mg to 0mg.

If you can get it lyrica really helps with opiate WDs. Take it for a week after you stop opiates entirely, in doses around 600mg/day or more if needed. Don't take it for longer than this as it carries its own unique brand of WDs.

Imodium helps. Take it in small doses for a while to help with the shits and nausea but it is an opiate in itself and while it is only active in your gut it will prolong the physical WD symptoms.

Good luck.
 
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