Opioids Severity of Kratom Withdrawal? Phenibut & Lope?

[KillTheKick]

Sup y'all.. I'm new here and did read up on other kratom threads but didn't see specifics on the severity of kratom withdrawal per dosages. SWIM has kicked every opiate at some point or another and has reached his threshold for withdrawing. SWIM could hunker down with a hoodie n a blanket n battle through the worse of it like a champ but has become a major pussy in the latter years.

To make a long story short could you help SWIM understand better about how severe the withdrawals should be from 2-4 TSP's of kratom per day? Obviously it's no where near H, oxy, dillies, fent and so on, BUT it's STILL something. Would phenibut help? Would lope be better?

I.E; 1 TSP = zero withdrawal, 0 days long, 0/10 severity
2-3 TSP = rls, pee butt, insomnia, 3 days long, 4/10 severity but 1/10 with phenibut & lope.
etc
etc

Please help. This is for encouragement. SWIM is over this shit.

 

[DrinksWithEvil]

just use 20mgs of lope twice a day for 3 days and your done

 

[FlawedByDesign]

I would suggest staying away from phenibut. I started taking etizolam when coming off kratom as a cure for the insomnia, ended up trading my kratom habit for one that's 10 times worse.

 

[KillTheKick]

thanks for the feedback.. The phenibut seems more sketchy than beneficial, the more I hear about it. The 20mgs of lope twice a day for a few days seems like the safest n easiest route. It's almost embarrassing tripping about a kratom kick but it's just a bitch these days.

 

[dopemegently]

Yeah, phenibut but can be a helpful drug, but it's very important to set yourself strict use cycles; that's probably no good for you, as you need to take something regularly, for as long as the withdrawals last. I've no exp with kratom withdrawal though, so I've no idea if it's on par with true opiates. I guess if your taking large quantities daily of strong leaf, then you're getting quite a lot of mirtaginine (sorry, not sure of correct spelling), and that's a pretty strong opioid, so I suppose it could be pretty bad.

 

[KillTheKick]

So far it's decent with the first dose of 20mg lope as today is the first day off kratom. SWIM initially used H>bupe>kratom>now loperamide and crossing his fingers for as harmless of a kick as possible. There's no get outta jail free card of course, but he is trying to minimize it as much as possible.

Hopefully the next 2-3 days will go by as quickly as possible and this will be over. Thanks guys!