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Serotonin Depletion

Bucklecroft Rudy

Bucklecroft Rudy

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Last time I rolled was this Saturday/sunday - im thinking of rollin again 2nite but im wondering whether its too soon. I had a bunk gram of MDMA last time so I only got to the im buzzzin" stage but didnt come up or really roll just a miiiild buzz. No comedown no serotonin depletion im guessing so can I redose!!
 
No this is too soon, I recommend 2-6 months break between rolls. Less is more. MDMA works on serotonin and if you take MDMA too often you'll find that it won't have the magic it once had because you haven't let your brain completely restore what was depleted.
 
Cheers m8 but do I really need 2 - 6 when I havent even come over the top" I mean its the full on raving stage that burns up the serotonin. I'd compare it to going 100mph in a race car compared to cruisin at like 20mph, the latter isnt gonna eat into the petrol reserves. I guess im just kinds pissed that ive gotta wait when I havent even experienced a real high yet.
 
If you took MDMA, you've depleted some serotonin. This is not something you can measure based upon how intense or euphoric your experience was. The misconception that you "didn't roll hard enough" so therefore you have a free pass at cutting the (minimum) 30 day wait recommendation down to a few days is a concept that gets many people in trouble.
 
Lots of people say wait once a month,
But 6 weeks is my absolute sweet spot.

waiting more than 6 weeks does nothing more for me,
But 6 weeks mark has that edge over the 4 week wait
 
hmmmmm cheers seems conclusive - im well put out tho seeing as my MDMA was probs 70% salt crystals. Has neone been in my position? Im not second guessing neone, the science is concrete from what I can see, I just want to see the extent to which dosing soon after a failed roll can mess up an experience
 
avcpl said:
It's not simply serotonin supply, it is also down-regulation of the serotonin receptors in response to the flood of serotonin.

This explains it pretty well:
http://thedea.org/MDMAatwork.html
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This is an excellent point.

In terms of purity, it sounds like your basing you "70% salts" (I'm guessing you mean actual salt, not random RC's labeled "salt") on your experience- I know first hand, my first few months of MDMA use, 60 mgs had me going all night- now, even with my use only every 90 days or so, in order to equal that experience, I'm typically dosing 200-300mgs over the course of the night. Point being, considering you use frequently, it's extremely likely it's you and not the strength of what you have.

It sounds like you want to convince yourself circumstances make it OK to re-roll in this case, I think we have all been there at one point. I'd really advise you to try to make a habit out of waiting it out, and making those "exceptions to the rules" span a matter of a week or two, rather than a matter of just a few days. This will assure you will be healthy, and able to continue enjoying MDMA in the future.
 
Bsiren said:
This is an excellent point.

In terms of purity, it sounds like your basing you "70% salts" (I'm guessing you mean actual salt, not random RC's labeled "salt") on your experience- I know first hand, my first few months of MDMA use, 60 mgs had me going all night- now, even with my use only every 90 days or so, in order to equal that experience, I'm typically dosing 200-300mgs over the course of the night. Point being, considering you use frequently, it's extremely likely it's you and not the strength of what you have.

It sounds like you want to convince yourself circumstances make it OK to re-roll in this case, I think we have all been there at one point. I'd really advise you to try to make a habit out of waiting it out, and making those "exceptions to the rules" span a matter of a week or two, rather than a matter of just a few days. This will assure you will be healthy, and able to continue enjoying MDMA in the future.
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Cheers for the excellent advice. I probably should have been a bit clearer that I have never used MDMA prior to Saturday and Sunday which is why im so pissed, ive spent over <snip> on various things over the last week nd its just a massive let down.
 
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avcpl said:
It's not simply serotonin supply, it is also down-regulation of the serotonin receptors in response to the flood of serotonin.

This explains it pretty well:
http://thedea.org/MDMAatwork.html
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Thisss. This is also your tolerance as well.

Try figuring out if you can get a hold of a different entactogen like MDA, those will not cross-tolerate very much with MDMA. I've been switching around different MDxx chemicals for a few weeks now. I find it works wonders.
 
Eating more drugs is rarely good for you.

In a realistic sense, you might not have even gotten MDMA, but its too late to know.

As a general rule, the longer you wait between then the better in how it affects your mind and body.

If you do decide to do it, and you probably will because drugs have a tendency of being consumed, take a multivitamin and a vitamin C or two, lots of fruits and eat healthy foods. Trust me, your body and brain will thank you.
 
Renz Envy said:
Yes. People underestimate how hard it is to find mdma in this world of penny-pinching thugs.
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It varies drastically depending on where you are. I still don't personally own a test kit, mostly out of the nature that a haven't had a question of quality towards any of the M0DMA I have taken. I think it has to do quite a lot with the scene you associate. The trick is to not have to deal with the penny pinching thugs at all.

In my experience, MDMA tends to maintain a sort of liquorice or safrol quality to the smell of it with bk-MDMA having a sort of nutty acetone character, I have heard it described as pistachio.

Now take a moment and realize how many more people underestimate how hard it is to find opium in this world of penny pinching thugs. I would wager that 50-75% of people that think they have tried opium haven't, and if they have its been cut so much that its laughable.
 
^ Your ability to recognize mdma is astonishing. After encountering the moon rocks, I have developed a keen taste for recognizing MDMA. However this liquorice taste must be subtle.
 
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Bsiren said:
If you took MDMA, you've depleted some serotonin. This is not something you can measure based upon how intense or euphoric your experience was. The misconception that you "didn't roll hard enough" so therefore you have a free pass at cutting the (minimum) 30 day wait recommendation down to a few days is a concept that gets many people in trouble.
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Precisely'd.

I can agree that some people that will want to roll after a roll will find a way to roll anyway.

But in the 80s people use to take SMALL thereputic doses and those were considered "full experiences". Whether or not you CONSIDER your experience to be full, it was still and MDMA experience.

I can recommend that you wait at least 30-60 days for something like that. The longer the better.

I like my rolls to be HARD so I take 4+ month breaks and now one good bean hits me hard and alot of the time I have to sit down at raves and just find the nearest girl to cuddle up to.

But you enjoy it how you enjoy it bro.
 
hi guys, i using MDMA since 1998...and I take 2 times a month... my dose of MDMA is 400 or 500 mg... if I sink below 400 mg did not feel hardly anything ...

there is some drug that restores serotonin that MDMA has consumed ?
 
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