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Self-detox from opiates

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Shvibzik

Shvibzik

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Hey everybody, I wanted to see if I could get your opinion on something.

I have been using opiates on and off for a couple of years. This time I am getting off (mostly) Oxy and some Opana after about a two week binge 60-200 mg/day (oxy equivalent, maybe some days even 150-200 mg of opana). I have taken a bit of Ativan too but nowhere near enough to need to detox, I don't think, and well below the seizure threshold.

I have to take a drug test (probably) Tuesday, but I have pretty much given up hope of passing it b/c though I decreased dosage yesterday and today, I got high so I wasn't really detoxing. I will probably substitute.

Anyway, I have access to 30 mg morphine es, 10 mg opana ir, 1mg ativan, as well as flexeril and ambien (I am lucky this time). I am trying to do this as quickly as possible, so I can pass future drug tests :) Maybe 3 or 4 days before I cold turkey anything besides flexeril & ambien. What is a good time line for this?
 
Do you have access to anything with a longer half life like subs or methadone? Or do you maybe live near a 'done clinic or have a way of getting into a detox?
That would be a little better than the little bit of morphine or opana you have. If not then opana would be better to use than the morphine and even then, the amounts you have on hand seems like it really wouldn't be enough to keep you from getting sick because you were using so much.
 
If I had access to subs or done I would have said so, and those weren't amounts, those were doses. 30 MG morpine es and 10 MG opana ir.

I would think it would be better to use morphine due to the longer half life.
 
I have self detoxed 3 times and im telling you it would be in your best interest to try and find some methadones. The half life lasts forever you wont get sick and for me mixing sleeping pills (even tylenol pm) worked great with them.
 
See, I have gone into a detox facility 3 times. I can't afford to do it. I know ideally a big bottle of methadone or suboxone would be sitting in my mailbox in the morning but that isn't gonna happen. Can you please tell me how I should proceed with what I DO have, please?

I only have a couple opana 10s. I have like 5 30mg morphine extended release (30s) but I can get more of them most likely (my friend has a script, he promised to take care of me and make sure I didn't have to ride it out w/nothing..so if I can't get more morphs I can get more opana)..keep that in mind when answering..like you could say "ideally it will be 3 morphine day 1, 2 day 2, 1 day 3 etc" and I can ask him for more.

Ativan and Flexeril are godsends when self detoxing, and I can pretty much get as many of those as I want. I just want to know the best way to do this detox.

AND PLEASE STOP TELLING ME TO USE METHADONE I WOULD IF I COULD GET SOME. Why would I post: these are the medications I have to use, if I had other choices?
 
It seems to me you already know what you need to do with what you have, I was just saying that about the methadone because other people are going to be reading this thread and in thier case they might have a way to get methadone so instead of starting anther thread they can just read this one and know that it would be ideal to get the dones.
 
I find tapering with full agonists nearly worthless use what opiates you have to be well as long as possible then maybe order some kratom if thats possible. Personally I find if I dose kratom a muscle relaxer and a benzo withdrawl can be a walk in the park YMMV. I was IVing heroin BTW
 
If you're detoxing, don't listen to anyone about subs or methadone.


Detox Kit:

Clonidine THIS IS A SAVIOUR! (Helps with cold sweats, sleep, general feelin like shit, headache and so much more)
Benzos
Marijuana (if you can)

Adderall helps alot too, beleive it or not!

Protein
Vitamins
Oh and more protein
Protein
exercise
 
Nexius said:
If you're detoxing, don't listen to anyone about subs or methadone.


Detox Kit:

Clonidine THIS IS A SAVIOUR! (Helps with cold sweats, sleep, general feelin like shit, headache and so much more)
Benzos
Marijuana (if you can)

Adderall helps alot too, beleive it or not!

Protein
Vitamins
Oh and more protein
Protein
exercise
Click to expand...

Funny you posted this because I am currently detoxing from opiates.
I started going to the gym again two days ago which helps to take
my mind of opiates. But more importantly, I took some adderall, small
dose (20 mg morning then 10mg at 1p.m.), and it stopped the physical
pain and also helped me think positive.

The bad thing is you could get addicted to adderall, and substitute one
addiction with the other. Maybe it is kinda bad to tell you that adderall
is a detox tool, but it really helps if you have nothing else

Clonidine is a great drug btw. Thats the stuff they would give you at the
hospital if you were detoxing.
 
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I recently tried to self detox off subs after being on pods and opioid pain pills for over a year, I broke down during withdrawal and ended up doing heroin for the first time in my life... Hopefully you are stronger than me, I tapered and had all the helper meds but when it came time for that final drop off to nothing I freaked out and started calling anyone and everyone for opiates.... found a source for black tar....no good. well, feels good, but you know what I mean. I was able to self detox before (a couple years ago) but the opiates have their claws in me good now.

I'm going the professional assistance route, I know that's what I need to quit. However you can definitely do it, just be strong, taper, and take the advice of the above posters.. (not the ones recommending subs or methadone obviously)

Benzos and Loperamide and Ambien along with tapering and staying hydrated has helped me tremendously in the past.

Also the Protein Drinks really seem to help, plus any excercise you can manage.... I think you said you were only using for a couple weeks? You shouldn't have any problem.

Good Luck!
 
The reason why I haven't told you how to use what you do have is that there is no way you will avoid sickness. Even if I gave you a taper schedule you will still get extremely sick.

You might as well use what you have to enjoy a couple good last highs and then just listen to the guy who said to use benzo's, weed, and clonidine because that will really be your savior. Also, get some loperimide (liquid immodium.) That will also help you out a lot.
 
Someone mentioned marijuana for opioid withdrawal above and he/she was correct. It helps tremendously. Of course effects from marijuana don't last long and you'll have to keep smoking over and over and end up getting yourself retarded, but that is very much needed during an opioid detox.

I have to face tramadol withdrawal every month when I run out early. It's only like 2 or 3 days before refill can be allowed, but those are the hardest of withdrawal. I do not smoke marijuana anymore, so I'm screwed there. But I notice I take about 7 hot showers or baths a day during withdrawal. It works wonders. Try it. You'll see.

Some kind of benzo at night is needed as well. They don't help too much, but take away the shaking and general restlessness from withdrawal. They don't even help me sleep during tramadol w/d, but at least I can be a little calmer and play guitar or something without shaking.

Vitamins. Etc, etc.
 
In the OP you mentioned you're doing this for a drug test?
Seems to me it'd be much easier to just beat the drug test via the millions of tea's and whatever they have in a health food store made to pass a drug test.

Kicking opiates on your own is no fun (I've done it many times cold turkey) not to mention dangerous, especially when you use other drugs to try to take the edge off or whatever. The thing about using other drugs is you tend to take way more than you might be able to handle just because you're trying to feel "Normal" or just not sick.

I do wish you luck!
 
^ opioid withdrawal is not harmful.

However, you are correct when you say that it is quite dangerous to use other drugs to mitigate the discomfort as some people can get out of hand with high doses of benzos and other drugs.
 
@ slowdive...yeah that's what I meant, all the other drugs while detoxing. Kicking cold turkey won't kill you...you'll just wish you were dead after the first week and a half with no sleep
 
I didn't find flexiril useful at all when I did my opiate wd. Maybe as a minor sleep aid. The life saver was the kpins + exercise. As much as I could push my body to do.

I'll be doing a tram wd again soon, god I hate that shit.
 
omg i just counted my tramadol and I don't think I'm going to be able to make them stretch until refill. Refill will be allowed to go through on the 26th or 27th. I may run out a couple of days early.

It will not be fun. It's coming. I still have several more good days left. I guess I could lower my dose and could possibly stretch it out.

Volp, I feel you. I'll only have to go through tram withdrawal for a couple of days. And then get my refill as soon as the pharmacy opens on RX date. Which is always amazing. To be in acute withdrawal and then take your drug. Sweet, sweet relief. And tolerance goes down quickly. Just a two day break and I can take smaller doses for a little while when I get my refill.
 
OP my rule is IF YOU GOING TO FAIL A DRUG TEST DONT TAKE IT. opiates will be out of your system in 2-3days from what ive read, i have no clue because no one invades my privacy with a drug test unless i allow it. 3-4 weeks to kick, just man up and get sick then you will be clean and heavens will part and sexy ladies will show you their boobs 8o
 
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