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Seems alchohol would be the biggest gateway drug then cannabis

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I dont know how others have experienced this, but me and all my friends first tried alchohol before any other substance. How did it become so socially acceptable even with all the death, suffering, and damage it can cause? In light of weed which is not acceptable totally but can actually be good for you to a certain degree.

Anyone have this experience or thoughts on the topic at all?
 
Alcohol has ubiquity and history on its side. There were times when wine may have been the only acceptable liquid to drink. Since most prohibition has some racial underpinnings and everyone drank it became ok by soceital standards.
 
i bet the history plays a huge part. But people have been doing drugs for a while, not as long as alchohol but i read somewhere the egyptians fucked around with ayahuasca tho.
 
Yeah but alcohol was in every culture. It won the drug lottery so to speak as it was so commonplace before anyone thought of banning anything.
 
My guess is the same as everyone else. Also getting intoxicated was probably viewed as ok due to beer being safer then drinking water (due to boiling in the brewing process but they didn't know that) and because there was a time where a starving you in the wild would love some partly fermented fruit because it was the only food available.

Also in a sense making alcohol is a way of preserving calories in fruits and carbohydrates. This unique history of being safer then water and food when your starving made it more of a necessity in early civilizations. I would imagine a massive turn was made with distillation and that's where a lot of problems started.

Also I don't believe in gateways to anywhere other then different dimensions. The only true gateway is the transition from life to death most other things are personal choice, to more or less a degree.
 
I think weed would be a better candidate as a gateway drug (I hate the term, I find it really damaging to the reputation of responsible recreational drug use) because of the fact that it displays stimulant, depressant, and hallucinogen. From there people move up the drug ladder usually following one of the three branches as their DOC.
 
Well it depends. If you see the "gateway" as a gateway into illegal substance use, then cannabis would still be a bigger one.

But, if you use "gateway drug," with the emphasis on drug, as in a gateway into consciousness alteration--then absolutely, alcohol was just ignored in that sense because it's legal.
If alcohol is a gateway to cocaine then either should be both be illegal or they should both be legal, but one of each makes no sense...
 
yung_gnar said:
I think weed would be a better candidate as a gateway drug (I hate the term, I find it really damaging to the reputation of responsible recreational drug use) because of the fact that it displays stimulant, depressant, and hallucinogen. From there people move up the drug ladder usually following one of the three branches as their DOC.
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I dont think its a case of how it makes you feel and more of the case of what is gonna be most probable for a young person to try first in which case i could see alchohol being first most of the time. When they try it and experience the feelings of it, that might lower someones inhibition to try other things like weed, cocaine etc.
 
Yeah, it's been proven time and time again, that the gateway drug theory is false, and whatever drug people use first is their gateway drug. Pot was definitely my gateway drug. I was actually a pretty stereotypical drug user. Smoked pot in high school. Eventually moved to hash. Started spending over 100 bucks a day on hash, smoking 2-5 g's of it a day. I stopped getting high completely, and actually had severe vomiting when I wouldn't smoke. I got tired of not getting high and moved onto benzo's. Had a very severe benzo addiction of 20-30mg of xanax per day. Eventually tapered, and quit the benzo's, and now I'm a daily opiate user.

People that are going to use drugs, are gonna do it either way. Most people tend to use harder illegal drugs, tend to start with pot though, as I feel most people who use alcohol want to stay law abiding citizens as it is. If you did a survey I'd bet you find that a higher percentage of people who use pot first use illicit drugs than those who used alcohol first.
 
I'm 100% sure I would have tried other drugs even if I didn't start with cannabis.

that's bullshit, every drug will make you more interested in trying other experiences, weed is the first one for many people just because it is the most available and it's cheaper than other drugs. (same for alcohol)
 
I ended up trying drugs for the first time because alcohol gave me the confidence to seek them out, I would have done them anyway though for sure. I guess weed is probably the gateway drug for most but the first drug I ever tried was cocaine and to this day I've still only smoked weed a couple of times. So I guess I'm starting at the top and moving down :p

Weirdly other things have always been more available for me, especially mephedrone which is not only easy to find but cheap. I would even say that, because I didn't do coke for months after the first time and because I got into mephedrone in the period between, mephedrone could be described as the drug that really got me interested in other drugs.
 
Alcohol was my gateway drug as they say. I love alcohol, and a large reason is because of its acceptance in society (and my family). Sure, pot got me interested in other drugs, but booze got me interested in pot. The first time I got high was when my friends and I couldn't get any booze one weekend senior year, but we could indeed get pot. The rest is history, and now I do a variety of uppers, downers, lefters and righters!
 
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