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Opioids Seeking Advice For Sandoz/Duragesic Fentanyl Patches

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Chris1973

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Hi all. I was hoping to get some feedback from anyone who uses Sandoz or Duragesic brand Matrix Patches. I wear these patches, but also use them orally a few times per week. I've read some posts where people talk about running the patch under scalding hot water for a few minutes before sucking on the patch to potentiate the effect, along with other similar methods to heat the patch.

So, I wanted to see if anyone has tried this with Sandoz/Duragesic patches, and if it was successful. Also, if anyone who uses these brand of patches has any other methods of making these patches work better orally, I'd really love to hear from you.

I have posted this question a couple of times in other threads, so I apologize in advance if you've already seen this question. I just figured I would get more feedback by posting this question in it's own thread.

Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to provide. I really do appreciate it!

PS: I do know and understand the dangers of Fenatnyl. I've been on the Matrix patches for almost 4 years now, in addition to breakthrough opiates, so I have a huge tolerance (I'm not bragging at all, it's just the situation I'm in). I have severe chronic pain after multiple fractures to my spine, and 90% of the time I use my meds as directed. But once in while I like to feel a little better which is why I ask this question. Thanks very much in advance!
 
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BTW - I'd like to hear from anyone who uses Sandoz or Duragesic/Janssen patches at all. They're pretty new to me so I have a couple questions but don't want to take up too much space on this site. Thank you very much!
 
I was hooked on both the gel and matrix patches years ago. The heat trick doesn't work better than oral. The heat will release both kinds faster, even the matrix.
Dude I nearly died putting them in my mouth so be very careful if u must do this. Never swallow or forget to take them outta ur mouth before u go to sleep. Your playing with an inferno dude so be safe. It's sooooo easy to forget or make a mistake...
 
Don't go increasing the chance of overdosing. Does heating it before using bucally even work?
Ive done my fair share of buccal fentanyl and it can sneak up on you and have you nodding with the patch still still in.

My only advice is heed with caution.
 
I used to use sandoz nongel patches before jan 2013. At that point they stopped making them. And to me no other brand ever worked as well buccally. Now that mention sandoz matrix patches I wonder if they are the pre 2013 ones or a different formulation. They abruptly stopped them back then, one month you went to pharmacy, the next they said the company said they were on indefinite hold. I wonder because the ones I had worked so well in your gums that you wouldn't need any tricks. The ones I had were clear with light blue lettering on it that said fentanyl and the mcg

Heat will speed up absorption but usually they say to apply heat when it's already on your skin. I don't know if heating it prior to application would work.

I have heard that rubbing alcohol on place you are putting it increases absorption. I dont know if that is true or not. I never tried it

Some brands work better than others buccally; one brand I had didn't work at all buccally.

As someone said, it does sneak up on you so be careful.
 
Actually I was mostly asking if anyone had any success heating the patch before using it buccally. When I used to get Mylan brand, I would put it on top of a tiny amount of water in a coffee cup then microwave it for roughly 10 seconds or just long enough to bring it to a boil. Then when I placed it in my mouth, it worked instantly. However, this doesn't seem to work as well with the Duragesic brand that I get now because of insurance so I was wondering if anyone else had success potentiating the Duragesic brand buccally. Although it appears they stopped making them, the Sandoz matrix patches were exactly the same as the Duragesic brand.

Thanks again for the feedback!
 
Hi, I am sorry to hi-jack your older thread, but you seem to know a lot about the Duragesic matrix patch and cutting them. I know that you can cut a Mylan to titrate down from say 50 to 37.5. Do you know if I can do the same with Duregesic?
 
If it is a nongel patch--yes

If it is the duragesic gel patch--no you cannot cut and get a precise amount. That said, I have cut a gel patch in half (separating the gel as equally as possible) and heat-sealed the ends in order to use less when I didn't want to wear a whole 100mcg. But it is not precise like a non gel patch

Basically--if your patch looks like a sticker you can do what you asked--cut to titrate down. That goes for any nongel patch
 
Thank you crzydiamond!

I kept reading about folks cutting the Durogesic patches to use bucally, but not to wear. And I wasn't sure if this cutting applied to my transdermal patches with have no obvious gel reservoir. It looks like a sticker with gel across the entire patch. Of course, the vender says cutting is dangerous.

And Of course, I don't want to OD. So I pulled the patch off 6 days ago, went cold turkey but with neurontin which REALLY helps and OTC codeine (it is available in here in Costa Rica), but I still feel really weird, totally sad, and almost trippy. So I would like to cut my 50mcgs in half to get 25mcgs, or 12.5 to soften the process and also help with my sciatica pain.

I was thinking that after cutting the patch, I would leaving the protective plastic cover on the pieces I don't immediately use and put them in the packaging to preserve them. Does that sound correct?

Thank you again for answering!
 
Yes. Cut first, only peel the backing off what you want to wear, and put the rest back in the pouch or in foil.

My friend's doctor told her it was fine to cut the sticker type patch when titrating down

When you wear them most of the fent is gone after 3 day, I'm not sure why you said you removed after 6.

You're much better off cutting and wearing a part of one if you want to do less, as if you remove a patch it's no longer effective when you try to restick to skin.

Stopping cold turkey is rough with the patches. I would definitely taper down if you want off of them.

Glad to be of help:)
 
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