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Second Time Dropping Acid

dafiend

dafiend

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First of all if this is in the wrong forum, I'd really appreciate it if it were moved to the appropriate one. Thanks in advanced :D

This is my first post, but I am a constant reader of Bluelight when it comes to my questions about any substances. I know there are probably already threads regarding this, but I just had some questions for my specific circumstances.

So I am a newbie when it comes to the world of psychedelics, I've dropped acid once (one tab, micro grams = ??) and had mushrooms twice (approximately 2g's both times). All three experiences were mind-blowing and have completely altered my life, for the better. Next weekend I plan on attending a lovely EDM festival in San Bernardino and candy-flipping ;). I am very experienced with MDMA, but haven't rolled since mid-June. So I bought two blotters of acid and a pill. As I said, my first time I only dropped one tab of acid and this was in an indoor setting. Do you guys think dropping two tabs of acid around 5:30 pm at this festival, and popping my E around 9 pm (ends at 2 pm) would be fun, for the setting? Or am I not experienced enough? Personally, I feel extremely mentally prepared and think I would be able to handle this at a rave. Curious to see if any other users have had candy-flipping experiences at a concert / rave, and what was it like? Any tips will be highly appreciated. Also, will it make any difference if I smoke OR drink (a bowl or two, or a few beers) about an hour to an hour and a half before I dropped my acid? Should I drink or smoke or do neither before dropping my acid. Again, I know this is kind of long and maybe I overdid it with the questions :( so I apologize if I did.

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the beer will ease anxiety from the trip. if you feel you're ready than go ahead and do it. just don't doubt yourself...and if you do, tell yourself there's nothing to worry about. first time i ever took acid was 2 tabs so considering you've taken acid before, it probably shouldn't be a problem. i've never candyflipped so i'm not sure if that will make a difference either. i'd say a festival is the perfect place to drop. good music will get you in a zone, especially if you start dancing, you'll forget you're even on the drug and will just enjoy it and feel euphoric. i've done enough acid for "introspective purposes", i'd like to do it at a festival or something. sounds like a great time.
 
Depends how you feel - often having the "I've got to take this E too" feeling hanging over your head can spoil the acid trip. My advice is just enjoy the acid trip for what it is.

If the acid trip is going fine then maybe add the E 5 or 6 hours in.
 
Check this candyflip thread for reference: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=220721

And realize that using LSD in an uncontrollable environment with a lot of stimulus input can be overwhelming for a lot of people and it usually requires more extensive experience with tripping and familiarity with LSD before it is recommended to attempt that.
Adding MDMA to it complicates this: it adds to unpredictability and to getting overwhelmingly intense and insane effects while at the same time the MDMA may enable you to overcome anxiety and fear you may get from being overwhelmed. It is impossible for us to say whether the overwhelming aspect or joyful aspect of being ecstatic wins out, but I would expect both to happen at different times during the experience if you follow through.

Starting with beer is not a great idea... drinking only one may be okay or even a good idea to ease the come-up and the alcohol will be out of your system when you actually ramp up to the peak(s), but do this only when you have the self-control to limit yourself to that one beer. Drinking more will make you lose control much more easily, it can seem like fun at first to get dragged along in your loss of inhibition but it can potentially make things spiral out of control further and further.
Don't smoke weed, it is far less reliable since it has stimulant, depressant, dissociative and psychedelic effects aspects all in one. It can often make you vague and it can potentiate things like anxiety and confusion as well as making the trip stronger in an unexpected way rather than dampening it. Save the weed for afterwards, although be careful not to take too much too early as it might drain your energy. That depends on how tired you get and how quickly as the candyflip often keeps you wired and stimulated for quite a while.

If you do this, make sure you have people with you who can keep an eye on you and who you can trust to sacrifice their own fun to help you when it is necessary. Also make sure you know a relatively quiet spot to retreat to where stimuli are at least at a level where you can contain yourself and potentially have things like a mystical experience. Be prepared for wild things like that to happen which is not really practical to happen at a big gathering like that. It is a real downside that you cannot go to a safe place like home quickly when you really need peace. It can be mindblowing but also scarring, having more extensive experience with tripping often allows people to develop more and more tolerance to heavy duty trips in potentially inappropriate places because with more experience you have already learned how to process and integrate that a bit better.

If you do it, keep the dose of LSD low and dose the MDMA when you have plateau'd so that you know better what to expect from the combination.
 
If I'm at a festival i prefer to candy flip.
LSD alone is more for adventures and campfires and whatnot, not a rave full of sweaty people, kinda ruins the vibe
 
Thank you guys for the replies! I really appreciate it. I'll make sure to have a quiet / relaxing spot I can retreat to if things go downhill. I will also have a xanax, for worst case scenarios! I know I'm not too experienced but I feel really confident in my abilities to handle this candy-flip ;-) I will probably have myself a beer before entering the festival, then drop the acid & have pop my pill about three-four hours after. I'm really excited and glad you guys could bring me more insight. :-)
 
If you keep both doses at reasonable amounts (a tab or two depending on strength plus 120mg. MDMA) then the MDMA should make it easier to handle the LSD in a public crowded setting.
It's when you decide to try some heroic doses that shit starts to get crazy
 
Yeah it's gonna be my first time taking two tabs but I know I can handle them. I turned a very scary mushroom trip (my first time) into an amazing experience. Acid is easier to control, at least for me :p. I'm also pretty sure these are low-dosed so I should be fine. Thanks again :-)
 
If you haven't tried the tabs don't be so deadset on taking two.
You can always take the second one later.
I came across some extremely powerful tabs once, and I took two not knowing the strength and was having warping tunnel vision and the most powerful visuals I've ever had on LSD (even more than times I've taken 4, and very close to the most powerful visuals I've ever had excluding ketamine and dmt.
 
You know, I was thinking the same thing but I highly doubt their high dosed-ish. Also was told one of the tabs "might have been left in sunlight" for a short amount of time (got it from a midldeman). The other tab I got myself and has been stored properly. If I decide to take just one, the one I bought myself, how much longer after would I be able to take the second tab? I heard tolerance grows very quickly. Thanks for the advice :-)
 
Once you're at your peak you can reduce without a noticeable drop in effects, shit I've even dropped when my peak was done without noticeable drop in effects, just that I obviously wouldn't have gotten as high as if I took it right as I peaked as the first tab is already working its way out of my system
 
So maybe I should take one & if I'm feeling like I can handle another around the two hour mark, take the other tab? I just don't wanna be disappointed :p
 
Yea I would say so, if you were more experienced with longer acting psyches you could even judge how high you were going to get before the peak by how quickly your visuals were progressing and getting stronger, but since it's only your second time I'd drop at the two hour mark.
Also with LSD it doesn't seem to take as long for it to begin to kick in when you're already high, which I attribute to the fact that the LSD doesn't have to build up to levels past the threshold level in your brain
 
One last question! I want to be sober ish by around 3 am. How much xanax would I need? I have a fairly low tolerance. I'm thinking 0.5 mg or 1 mg will kill my trip / roll. Sound accurate?
 
sounds like you got it pretty much squared away. if you are unsure about how you will react in the environment, maybe dose up sooner. i would second having a few drinks to loosen up. also--i dont know if this happens to anyone else, but ecstasy tends to hit me a bit harder if i have a little bit of an alcohol buzz going.

a general rule of thumb with candyflipping is take half of your normal dose for each substance to start with. have you had those specific blotters before? what about the pill? as always if you can, test your goods. you may want to have an extra dose or roll on hand just in case it is not as strong as you want it to be though. my guess is it will work out fine. for what its worth, i like to wait until after the peak to start smoking weed, but thats just me. maybe some other drugs would be nice on the comedown but definitely wait until after the peak if you are going to do anything else. ketamine at the tail end of a candyflip is always good!
 
I candy flipped twice and found that taking a strong dose of X about 2 hours after I dropped the acid was ideal for me.

The X hit hard during my acid peak and I was in heaven for 2 hours and then started slowly coming down.
 
GreenMachine said:
sounds like you got it pretty much squared away. if you are unsure about how you will react in the environment, maybe dose up sooner. i would second having a few drinks to loosen up. also--i dont know if this happens to anyone else, but ecstasy tends to hit me a bit harder if i have a little bit of an alcohol buzz going.

a general rule of thumb with candyflipping is take half of your normal dose for each substance to start with. have you had those specific blotters before? what about the pill? as always if you can, test your goods. you may want to have an extra dose or roll on hand just in case it is not as strong as you want it to be though. my guess is it will work out fine. for what its worth, i like to wait until after the peak to start smoking weed, but thats just me. maybe some other drugs would be nice on the comedown but definitely wait until after the peak if you are going to do anything else. ketamine at the tail end of a candyflip is always good!
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I think I'll have myself a tall can and no more brew after that. Then drop my acid :-) I've never had this particular batch so I guess one is good to start, to be on the safe side. Yeah if I do smoke it won't be until the comedown, but I'm definitely gonna take some xanax towards the end of my trip so I can sleep haha. Thanks man!

Oh & how I wish I could get my hands on some K. One day hopefully! :D
 
GreenMachine said:
sounds like you got it pretty much squared away. if you are unsure about how you will react in the environment, maybe dose up sooner. i would second having a few drinks to loosen up. also--i dont know if this happens to anyone else, but ecstasy tends to hit me a bit harder if i have a little bit of an alcohol buzz going.
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You're definitely not gonna be the only one, but myself and most people I've talked too have said alcohol generally dulls your roll.
If you're at the bar or clubbing though it's fun because it synergizes very nicely for a party atmosphere, but if I'm at home and want the full effects of the roll, I leave the alcohol out
 
The one time I drank before my roll I had a really nice buzz going and then popped. I do agree it made it come on faster but it did also dull it a little bit. Not mention it was the first time I ever got nauseous during a come-up, though it didn't last too long.
 
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