Schapelle Corby will celebrate freedom 'with a joint', says former lawyer Kerry Smith

I never have had true psychosis from marijuana but I know it's possible in some people with predisposition. I have definitely had my share of paranoia, anxiety and panic attacks from it, which is why I no longer use it. I find your statement saying that it would have been better if you had an IV heroin addiction to be completely ridiculous. I am a recovering heroin addict and I can say without a doubt that you cannot compare marijuana addiction and heroin addiction. Heroin changed me as a person to where I don't think I will ever go back to being how I was before. I think about heroin everyday and I have been off it for over 16 months (only relapsed 4x in the last 3 years). Heroin can make you do things you would never normally do and can change your lifestyle completely, not to mention it kills a lot of it's users compared to other drugs. Marijuana isn't for everyone, that's for sure and it's not completely harmless, but to compare it to heroin in anyway is just ridiculous.

Well I was basing that off of an opiate addiction I have had for half a decade (not heroin though). When I was seeing a therapist due to the fear of it being schizophrenia, he told me that I should stop using all drugs, especially Marijuana. It is called drug-induced psychosis. I told him I can not give up opiates (I found them during this time), and he told me I do not have to give up opiates as they have a mechanism of action that does not induce psychosis in the type that I have. I recovered from psychosis whilst being addicted to opiates, which is why I said that, perhaps I should of stated "opiate addiction" instead of "IV heroin" lol.

drug_mentor;12140579 Teological I never said cannabis is harmless said:
My view is based on my experiences. I come from a bad area and my entire social group and associates engaged in drug use (say out of 15 - 25 people I knew, some not that personal), 3 of them (4 including me) had problems of going crazy on Marijuana. One of them was very close to me, and confided in my experience. That, IMO, is a high percentage of people. I do accept that for some people it is harmless, I have seen those 20year daily smokers that are normal lol. I am just saying, the risk is so great (not the %probability but the psychosis itself), especially that it can be permanent, that it is rather harmful because of the risk. I also have to say we did mix drugs a lot, and mine first appeared whilst I was using meth.

I agree with opi8.
Also, if pot is so sinister, teological - it's a good thing you and your friends didnt indulge in (any number of) potent psychostimulants available to drug users nowadays.
Cannabis may have adverse, lasting effects in those susceptible, but methamphetamine, MDPV and a host of others are capable of creating true psychosis in individuals not genetically predisposed to such things.
Dissociatives carry a risk with this, along with a bunch of other compounds.
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The thing is spacejunk, I am still a drug user. Lol, with no psychotic symptoms. The reason why I single out Marijuana is because of what my therapist taught me plus the mere fact that if I have one puff, it is bat shit crazy time. Anything else I can and DO, do. Ketamine pills, DXM, Amphetamine, Opiates (the best), MDMA, you name it, I do it if I find it. One hit of weed, and it is bye bye charley. The thing is, my favorite high out all, including opiates believe it or not, is Marijuana. I love the stuff, especially watching movies or playing video-games. Opiates, my body just feels good, Marijuana made everything god damned fun.
 
^ You've tried using cannabis in different ways? Like cookies and vaping? How have you usually used it, cones ?
 
^ You've tried using cannabis in different ways? Like cookies and vaping? How have you usually used it, cones ?

Everything and anything bro. I used to smoke cones, 20 -40 a night lol. I have tried vaporizing, cooking in butter with a pan in hot water, they all cause the same effect of psychosis now. Have tried them all. I think it is the THC, although is changes to delta-10 once cooked, still I lose it...god damn it lol.
 
Teological dude, that is a really unfortunate experience with cannabis, surely though, you are intelligent enough to realise that your negative experience with a drug and the negative experience of your close friends doesn't make a drug more harmful than others, even if you can still use other drugs and not cannabis.

I also come from a lower socio economic area, which I think does contribute to more people being heavy cannabis users for whatever reason, I have known and associated with literally hundreds of heavy smokers over the years, I admit a lot of them I no longer have contact with and maybe some did go down that route, I would be surprised if I hadn't heard about it though. Again, I am not trying to make out like cannabis psychosis doesn't exist, but it seems to be incredibly rare. Maybe it is less rare than I think, I still don't think that is enough to outweigh the harms many other drugs cause.

You admit yourself you were on methamphetamine when your psychosis first hit, cannabis was obviously a contributing factor but that right there tells me that you cannot really blame cannabis alone. I am aware that now you cannot smoke cannabis, but I am sure it is not uncommon for people who have suffered psychosis in the past, regardless of whatever brought it on, to suffer psychotic symptoms when they smoke cannabis after a prior psychotic episode.

Also, just because you can recover from psychosis whilst taking opioids does not mean they are less harmful than cannabis, they have huge potential for addiction that cannabis just does not have (I am not saying nobody can become dependent on cannabis, I consider myself dependent on it really) and they can also cause death.

You are entitled to your opinion, but as far as I am concerned it is established FACT that cannabis does less overall harm to the average user than just about any other recreational drug, whether you had shit luck with it or not has no bearing on that fact.
 
Teological dude, that is a really unfortunate experience with cannabis, surely though, you are intelligent enough to realise that your negative experience with a drug and the negative experience of your close friends doesn't make a drug more harmful than others, even if you can still use other drugs and not cannabis.

I also come from a lower socio economic area, which I think does contribute to more people being heavy cannabis users for whatever reason, I have known and associated with literally hundreds of heavy smokers over the years, I admit a lot of them I no longer have contact with and maybe some did go down that route, I would be surprised if I hadn't heard about it though. Again, I am not trying to make out like cannabis psychosis doesn't exist, but it seems to be incredibly rare. Maybe it is less rare than I think, I still don't think that is enough to outweigh the harms many other drugs cause.

You admit yourself you were on methamphetamine when your psychosis first hit, cannabis was obviously a contributing factor but that right there tells me that you cannot really blame cannabis alone. I am aware that now you cannot smoke cannabis, but I am sure it is not uncommon for people who have suffered psychosis in the past, regardless of whatever brought it on, to suffer psychotic symptoms when they smoke cannabis after a prior psychotic episode.

Also, just because you can recover from psychosis whilst taking opioids does not mean they are less harmful than cannabis, they have huge potential for addiction that cannabis just does not have (I am not saying nobody can become dependent on cannabis, I consider myself dependent on it really) and they can also cause death.

You are entitled to your opinion, but as far as I am concerned it is established FACT that cannabis does less overall harm to the average user than just about any other recreational drug, whether you had shit luck with it or not has no bearing on that fact.

The most unfortunate thing is that I really loved the stuff. If I could smoke it right now, I would instantly be off opiates and anything else for that matter. It is still, to this day, my favorite high.

Yeah, I agree. To the average user, it is less damaging, especially in regard to addiction, overdose-death, WD and the situations that can put you in, and general disregard to your surroundings with the more intense and addicting substances. But, the notion of deeming weed harmless, I strongly disagree with (I have read pro-marijuana activists deeming it such). The fact that psychosis is so serious and debilitating (especially since it can stay as permanent), albeit not death, is enough in my opinion to move it up the ladder. The percentage is obviously rare in the likeliness it is to occur, but say 100 people smoke it daily, I am willing to bet at the very least 1 -5 people will get psychotic symptoms. That, to me, is enough to move it out of the "harmless" category.

If psychosis was not a problem that Marijuana caused (I think it is the main culprit, due to symptoms ceasing after use is stopped and due to medical studies in predisposed individuals), then I would agree it would be LESS than harmless, lol.

The thing is, I still sometimes think of the what "ifs". What if I did not keep on mixing it with Meth and MDMA. What if I did not smoke it daily and at such a high rate. Something tells me that if I kept it to a small a joint on a weekend, without including poly-drug use, I may still be blazing and playing modern warfare today...sad shit man, but opiates will do.

I am all for complete legalization of cannabis. I had a bad experience, I have tried again, it has not worked, I simply won't use it, that should not stop people that enjoy it from using it. I would be out there campaigning with all the pot smokers for legalization if one day we get the chance. Just because someone has had massive struggles in their personal life with Heroin, does not mean I should not use it...etc. Keeping it against the law is not the way to go, my only intention is to get my 2 cents across, as each time I read it as harmless or least harmful, I get an itch lol.
 
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Guilty or not I think she deserves a pay day after 9 yrs in that shit hole. Judging by her family even if she was involved in trafficking they are hardly ballin big players. If she was just another guy trying to make a quick buck smuggling into SE Asia then there wouldn't be even a $20 interest in her story. Being a pretty young girl with a bat shit crazy family made her story compelling enough for people to pay for her to talk. If anyone should be ashamed it should be the Australian public who idolize criminals like Carl Williams, Ned Kelly and Schapelle.

The whole proceeds of crime laws are a desperate attempt to punish criminals who flaunt their celebrity. If you are smart enough it isn't that difficult to funnel any such proceeds into safe bank accounts of friends you can trust.

Soooo, some people should be allowed to profit but other's aren't? How would that ever work in any legal sense? What arbitrary lines are you going to draw to make that work? Or is this just more of how the law should be structured around what you personally believe about things?
 
Corby prank fails to move media throng

An attempt by Australian tourists in Bali to have a bit of fun at the media's expense backfired this morning when a woman pretending to be Schapelle Corby failed to move reporters gathered outside a hotel where the drug smuggler is allegedly staying.

The group of four women made the strategic dash in clear view of the media throng outside the Sentosa Villas in Seminyak.
Footage captured by Nine News shows a woman, with her face concealed similar to how Corby dressed yesterday, being led past a group of journalists conducting an interview.
However, instead of racing over to film the woman posing as the former Queensland beautician, the women's stunt barely elicits a reaction from the correspondents.
The women giggle as they lead their friend away from the hotel with a lone photographer snapping photos as he grins, seemingly aware of the ruse.
Despite failing to shift the media throng the women appear content with their prank, laughing loudly in the camera's gaze.

The media contingent continues to monitor the hotel where Corby was yesterday released to after being granted parole almost nine years into her 20-year sentence for smuggling 4.2kg of marijuana into Bali.

source and videos of media stunt here.

...kytnism...:|
 
Soooo, some people should be allowed to profit but other's aren't? How would that ever work in any legal sense? What arbitrary lines are you going to draw to make that work? Or is this just more of how the law should be structured around what you personally believe about things?
I couldn't care two shits if they profit after their jail sentence. Once they are released they in theory have paid back their sins to society and it shouldn't matter if people then want to pay them for books or movies of their life. If there story is news worthy who else should receive money for it? Some money grabbing television producer who would sell tickets to their own mothers funeral?

Confiscating money earned from their actual crimes is different but sure a persons biography no matter how unpalatable to some should be free. If you feel funny about it don't buy their book or buy products from business who advertise during their tele movie.
 
I'll be interested to hear about what she eventually says after her parole is up and if she is ever going to admit guilt. I bet she's got some crazy prison stories.

I also wonder how many years we will hear updates on her life. Corby goes to Lombok, Corby has baby, Corby gets married, Corby and family visit Australia for first time and do interview worth 1.5 million. Corby, husband and kid seen at sea world. Corby and family go back to Bali. Corby has another baby. Corby gets tattoo, Corby has another baby, Corby gets another tattoo, Corby gets divorced. Corby gets cosmetic surgery, Corby has another baby, who is the father? Etc etc….
 
I couldn't care two shits if they profit after their jail sentence. Once they are released they in theory have paid back their sins to society and it shouldn't matter if people then want to pay them for books or movies of their life. If there story is news worthy who else should receive money for it? Some money grabbing television producer who would sell tickets to their own mothers funeral?

Confiscating money earned from their actual crimes is different but sure a persons biography no matter how unpalatable to some should be free. If you feel funny about it don't buy their book or buy products from business who advertise during their tele movie.

Have to agree here. It is one thing to confiscate money that are proceeds directly from a crime committed, and it is another once the person is released from prison and makes money from a movie or book etc. I have always found this law to seem weird and out of touch. I mean where does it end?

Does the government keep the money?
 
Campbell Newman could stop Schapelle Corby being paid for interview

QUEENSLAND Premier Campbell Newman says Schapelle Corby should not profit from her crime and he’ll see what can be done under the state’s laws to prevent that.
The convicted drug smuggler was this week released on parole from Bali’s Kerobokan prison and has secured a deal with the Seven Network worth $2 million to tell her story.
Newman said he would be asking his Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie if Corby could be stopped under Queensland’s proceeds of crime laws.

“I am deeply concerned, in fact I am dismayed, that a convicted drug criminal has benefited it appears from her criminal activity,’’ Mr Newman told reporters in Brisbane today.

Mr Newman said he respected Indonesia’s justice system and its decision to convict Corby.
“I just think we need to recognise there was a trial in Indonesia, she was appropriately convicted, she went to jail and now it appears she’s benefiting from this act and I don’t think it’s very satisfactory.
“So we will look and see whether that Queensland legislation has any application.’’

His comments come after Channel Seven personalities and senior government figures voiced their opposition to the television network’s decision to pay Corby $2 million to tell her story.
Treasurer Joe Hockey and Seven star David Koch are among those who have expressed their distaste over Corby’s possible windfall.

The growing anger comes as details of the convicted drug smuggler’s parole conditions have emerged.
Corby’s parole conditions were laid down and originally signed in August last year.

In that letter, obtained by News Corp Australia, Corby made a series of pledges including to not commit any criminal acts, to not use or distribute any kind of narcotics and to report to the parole authority every month.
Corby also agreed to receive guidance from the parole team and to dress modestly and neatly for the officers.

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http://www.news.com.au/national/cam...id-for-interview/story-fncynjr2-1226824068589
 
Like I said earlier, no-one will be getting the straight dope (pun!) on this story until at least 2017

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Bali prison boss Farid Junaedi says it would be "stupid" for Schapelle Corby to talk to to journalists, a day after the parole board warned any interview may land her in jail.

The backlash in Indonesia against Schapelle Corby's luxury accommodation and rumoured $2 million interview fee she may earn is growing, prompting the head of the Bali parole board to pay an unscheduled visit on Wednesday to the villa compound where she's staying.

Ketut Artha drove into the gated Sentosa Seminyak villa complex on Wednesday morning, dressed in batik rather than his official uniform, and the waiting media did not recognise him. He was with Corby's parole officer, Putu Andiani, and two others, and they stayed inside for about an hour.

After coming out, Mr Ketut told Fairfax Media that Corby seemed stressed.

“She's still recuperating but she is not at a maximum level yet,” he said.

He said he had insisted that an Indonesian bureaucrat sit in the room when and if Corby grants her first post-prison interview, so that what she said could be relayed back to his superiors in Jakarta.

Mr Ketut is under pressure from the local media and politicians, who believe Corby should be living in the family compound of her brother-in-law, Wayan Widyartha, and should not be paid millions for a tell-all interview about her experiences.

Mr Ketut has already made it clear that she is entitled to live in the villa complex. However, he said on Tuesday there were certain things she could say in an interview that would be “fatal” to her continuing parole.

“We'd have to review what exactly has been said, and it will be ... not instantly. If she says something [bad] … we'll advise her, warn her, but if it's fatal, we'll definitely review [her parole].”

He would not elaborate on what issues she could speak about that would be a concern.

Kerobokan prison governor Farid Junaedi weighed in, warning on Wednesday that if Corby were returned to prison for breaching any parole conditions “it will be worse than before” because she would miss good behaviour remissions.

He also told the local Denpost newspaper it was “stupid” if she did an interview.

“On parole, she is still considered as a prisoner, though she's free and outside ... I've made it clear to the family that if she's willing to be interviewed, that would be stupid of her,” he said.

Mr Ketut reiterated to Fairfax Media that Corby did not need any official permission to do an interview, but said: “We do expect them to advise us” so they could report back to Jakarta.

“We want to make sure that our [parole] officer is there to guide Corby, and then we'll need to report to our [department's] director-general to let him know what happened.”

The comments will increase the pressure on the Corby family – and on the Seven Network program that has apparently secured first interview rights – to limit what she says about the Indonesian justice and prison systems.

Mr Ketut said that he had spoken to Corby's brother-in-law, Wayan Widyartha, who is her guarantor, and he had “assured me there is no interview scheduled yet".

The comments square with what TV host Mike Willesee told journalists on Tuesday, that, though he was inside the compound with the Corby family, he had no idea when, or even if, the interview would take place.

The head of the Bali justice office told reporters that the fact Mercedes Corby was now separated from Wayan made no difference to his ability to be Schapelle's guarantor. However, if the couple divorced, the guarantor would have to become a member of her family.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/bali...rview-grows-20140212-32hnf.html#ixzz2t4tXPVc4
 
Sounds doubtful she is going to get that 2-3 mill then. Maybe she'll do some 'approved' interviews for much less? Who knows. In 3 yrs it will be cold and even less people will care and watch/buy.
 
It's pathetic... and disgusting. Vengeance and jealousy, without a hint of justice.

The people who not only disagree with, but would like to see actively stopped a free and it would seem lawful private exchange between Corby and the media.

Either you believe in the law or you don't, if you do, and what she is doing is lawful, what business is it of yours? Is it that you disagree with the law? Because if so, I would ask one to ask themselves why.

Exactly how IS she supposed to get any money? She can't leave Indonesia for several more years, is she even allowed to legally work there?

Or could it perhaps be jealousy, the utterly pathetic feeling I sense in some that they feel it's 'unfair' that someone pay her now, when they themselves don't have 2 million dollars? Which of course would be ridiculous, keeping in mind that if you want that, you would have to spend 9 years in a foreign prison plus lost earnings plus become a media pariah WITH it. It's only 2 million dollars, for the rest of your life, it's really not even that much.

Or is it that sense of smug superiority those who consider themselves law abiding have over those they consider not? We already have wrath and envy, might as well add a little bit of pride. Of course this is ridiculous especially given that it's another country. Where she had no right to a jury, seemingly little presumption of innocence, and nothing approaching guilt beyond a standard of reasonable doubt. Not all legal systems are made equal and only a fool would think they are.

This isn't a serial killer or a child molester, it's a non-violent offender who's already lost a decade of her life.

And can you imagine if she were innocent? Admittedly I think she probably isn't.... but there's that reasonable doubt thing again. She never did plead guilty, despite it being in her interest in many ways to do so. They never did weigh the bags or collect the cctv footage or do the fingerprinting correctly.

I can't imagine how much shame I would feel if I were one of team pitchfork and it ever somehow turned out she was actually innocent. Perhaps they wouldn't even care.
 
Media Watch reminded me that the Corby family has always denied ever engaging the lawyer in the OP - she's completely insane.
 
Exactly how IS she supposed to get any money? She can't leave Indonesia for several more years, is she even allowed to legally work there?

I dont know. Good question. I think some of these dick heads wont to see her dead before she makes any money. Because after all she is a convicted drug smuggler of that highly deadly weed stuff.

Oh, yeah I recall she is apparently going to work making swim suits or something in her brother in laws business? I think thats what I heard, and I bet that's going to be very hard for her to do with all these nosy cunts not leaving her alone.
 
It's pathetic... and disgusting. Vengeance and jealousy, without a hint of justice.


This isn't a serial killer or a child molester, it's a non-violent offender who's already lost a decade of her life.

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Right on, bro. I think they are both jealous and full of law-abiding pride. Those sober alcohol drinkers. Man a killer gets off lighter than this. A child molester does not even need to do time in jail and can get off on suspended sentences, relocated near a school with a different name or allowed to continue to work with children in the church/school etc. I hope she gets the money. She is basically bat shit crazy by now anyway. Look at her face, you can tell from the way her eyes are not smiling. They have ruined her life, all she needs now is the Australian government to intervene and take all her money away that she earned from a interview. If I were her, I would seriously feel like the world is against me. Campbell Newman is basically out to get her money.

She can work and it is actually part of her probationary rights. She must have income from work or it is back in jail.
 
Burly bodyguard Adrian Gard hired to protect Schapelle Corby from the media in Indonesia

Burly bodyguard Adrian Gard hired to protect Schapelle Corby from the media in Indonesia

WITH the Australian media engaged in the increasingly comical Great Schapelle Stakeout taking place in Bali, Confidential’s spies noted with interest the arrival yesterday of burly Australian body guard Adrian Gard — the man said to have been hired by the Corby team to protect the convicted drug smuggler’s lucrative media deal.

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Adrian Gard arrives at Denpasar international airport to personally look after Schappelle Corby in Bali.

Gard is best known for the work he has done with superstars of the ilk of The Rolling Stones, Mariah Carey, David Bowie, Giselle Bundchen and Paris Hilton. He has previously told media he enjoys a close friendship with Hilton, with whom he once spent time living abroad, he claims.

According to Gard’s website, Bodyguardsinternational.com, when the big celebrities tour Australia, increasingly it is Gard they call for protection.

His role as part of the Corby roadshow, if he has indeed been retained, will likely require that he prevents media from getting an unauthorised snap of the nation’s most-wanted beautician.

The unsmiling muscleman, who goes by the nickname “Gardie”, made his uncompromising position concerning photographers clear after he touched down yesterday on a flight to Denpasar from Australia, moveingswiftly through the airport to a waiting car.

“Gardie” then made his way directly to the luxurious Sentosa Seminyak resort where Corby and her sister Mercedes are now in residence.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/en...dia-in-indonesia/story-fni0cvc9-1226825098448
 
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