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say no to piperazine

to all the people on this thread that says a rave should be just for the music are complete idiots. that is what a REAL rave is all about-ECSTASY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
brianbou1984 said:
to all the people on this thread that says a rave should be just for the music are complete idiots. that is what a REAL rave is all about-ECSTASY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To each their own; I've been to raves sober and had a great time. Then again, I think being on Ecstasy offers its own merits (of course, heh).

Every experience in life has merit from different perspectives, in my humble opinion. :)
 
The dangers presented by the plethora of unrecognizable piperazines in street pills are shining examples of why drug legalization needs to occur.

Hell- everybody is missing out. I know many a person who would rather pay 20 dollars for a single hit of pure MDMA than 10 dollars for a bag full of dirty rolls. The users would stay safe and the government would profit off of the tax money.

This world seems so silly some times. Haha.
 
SAY NO TO PIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! if people would wise up with what there buyin and what there actually taking the mdma supply will surely pick up due to demand as less piperazine pills will be pushed in every town on every street and in every club
 
jaguar said:
SAY NO TO PIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! if people would wise up with what there buyin and what there actually taking the mdma supply will surely pick up due to demand as less piperazine pills will be pushed in every town on every street and in every club
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You are spot on mate. Education is the key to sorting out a lot of this mess, I tell all my friends who take pills to come on Bluelight and Pillreports so they have a better idea what they are putting in their bodies, and hopefully reduce the chance of them abusing. I first took pills last april. White smileys. I was lucky that these contained MDMA. And was able to get these for a good few months. Giving me a good idea of what to look for i.e. that amazing loved up feeling (Personally, I like to describe it as there being world peace, cos everything's sooo perfect ha ha) Then sometime in august i tried my first Pip (Well it was actually meant to my Crystal, but I can assure you it wasn't) I seriously thought I was going to die. So now i just won't touch anything unless it's been tested and discussed on pill reports. Say no to Pips. And thankyou Bluelight for are your knowledge.
 
Then again, we've got the problem of Mephedrone and other RC's being put into pills now, and some people would accept that.
 
XciteD said:
^^^ i couldn't agree more. This generation of people is only looking to get muffed up so many of them take whatever pill is put in their hands, clueless to the things their putting in their bodies.
Man, EFF pipes!!!! Disgusting, foul, sickly chems. I feel lucky to have only experieced it once.
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yeah i hear that because actually mdma is where its at. it just sucks that people have to say yea they are bomb rolls when they are pipes.........it just sucks now a days. like what happened
 
RGB said:
To each their own; I've been to raves sober and had a great time. Then again, I think being on Ecstasy offers its own merits (of course, heh).

Every experience in life has merit from different perspectives, in my humble opinion. :)
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yea i hear ya that but raves are funner on rolls
 
looks like the supply of mdma pills is back on the increase in the uk still havnt come across them yet myself since august 09 but things look promising on pill reports ......................... fingers crossed :-)
 
The safrole restrictions are the problem in the UK. Most of our MDMA is coming from the Netherlands but of course not every dealer is going to be able to have access to these batches of MDMA and so the problem of pipz has increased dramatically.

Furthermore the fact that this MDMA coming such a long way means that it's going through a lot of hands, using piperazine is an easy way to double profits.

I'm fed up of piperazine, I wasn't around in the years when average E was good quality and because of this I've only ever truly rolled 3 times. That’s why I turned to the RCs instead which I end up binging on them in a hopeless attempt to achieve an MDMA high.

Of course I never can recreate the magic of MDMA and in trying so I've potentially screwed the quality of any future rolls due to mephedrone and methylone usage.
I blame all of this on pipz. I think a trip to Amsterdam is in need for me.
 
Special_Monster said:
The safrole restrictions are the problem in the UK. Most of our MDMA is coming from the Netherlands but of course not every dealer is going to be able to have access to these batches of MDMA and so the problem of pipz has increased dramatically.

Furthermore the fact that this MDMA coming such a long way means that it's going through a lot of hands, using piperazine is an easy way to double profits.

I'm fed up of piperazine, I wasn't around in the years when average E was good quality and because of this I've only ever truly rolled 3 times. That’s why I turned to the RCs instead which I end up binging on them in a hopeless attempt to achieve an MDMA high.

Of course I never can recreate the magic of MDMA and in trying so I've potentially screwed the quality of any future rolls due to mephedrone and methylone usage.
I blame all of this on pipz. I think a trip to Amsterdam is in need for me.
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What are RC's?
 
Fuck Pipes, I can totally tell when I get a pipe. If i have a really bad comedown that lasts longer than one day after I have dropped, then I have gotten some sort of Pipe/MDMA mix.

I just ordered the FULL kit. I had bought a testing kit, but it only told me if I had E or not, and didn't test for other chemicals. After encountering a pipe recently, I have ordered the full kit. Fuck pipe surprises, I wish they didn't have ills with these shitty ingredients in them ugh
 
Pipes are the reason I don't eat pressed anymore, there goes all that nostalgia

friends used to be afraid there was some meth in the pressed caps, and after getting piped twice i'd be gald if it was a straight cut 50/50 meth/mdma, because whatever the hell I got when I was piped I hated it... felt sketchy as heck.

luckily all I see now is pure powder from a trusted friend but it seems to lack something that those tweak rolls had... hmmm not worth the risk of being piped again not in a long shot.
 
ive been piped before
twas turrible/didnt resemble MDMA in any way
diggity dank molly for the win
derp
 
I may repeat a lot of what's been said cause I didn't read all of it, but I wanted to post because I feel very strongly on this topic. There are a number of issues related to the current piperazine flood, but all of them are contributing to the demand for them, which is the problem that needs to be fixed for pipes to begin to disappear.

1) Newbies who don't know the difference...this is a tough problem to fix, especially if the pills are pipe/mdma combo. Agree with those who said newbies won't be as apt to get kit too, so will be even tougher for them to tell. That's what forums like this are for, so congrats to those who are educating themselves.

2) Oddly, some veteran rollers are contributing to the demand as well. Look, if you've been rolling too often and the magic is gone and somehow you think you're still rolling, you're wrong. You're just getting high off the "dirt" as I call it. Please stop, take a break, and when you come back only buy quality, tested pills.

3) Lastly, there are people out there who actually like (or don't mind) pipes...arghhh! Look, I think if you took a really high quality clean pill and then a pipe on separate occations, you'd see how much greater experience the MDMA is. Please stop buying pipes.

The only way this problem will go away is to kill the demand. This needs to be done on all three fronts. Hope it happens, but not holding my breath.
 
Unfortunately, piperazines will show up until they no longer generate any money. Piperazines do not require illegal precursors, they're extremely cheap to generate so they tend to show up =( I make a point of asking rolling people I meet if they test their stuff, to which they often say "oh I trust my guy", or "what? You can test it?"....some people do, most people know about pillreports.com atleast- but a lot of people only roll 2-3x a year, and don't do much research.

It makes me sad, because when I see those frightened/concerned posts about "what the hell did I take last night?", I know it's someone who "trusted their guy", but that's why we are here- to help prevent that from happening.
 
I posted this a few months back But wanted to add it to this Thread...
I know alot of ppl wine about the price or inconvinounce of a Test Kit But my lil Cuz and all their Friends put in $5. One kid that is good at the Testing does it for them. (and he is VERY happy to do this!) they call it their community Test Kit. And everyso offten they will give the kid a few bucks for doing it and he uses that to order new kits etc...

This is a social Drug. This is something that 95% of ppl do with Friends SOOO why not test with Friends Also??? It's little to no cost. It's Safer for everyone. It's Little to NO hassel.....
So why not??? Why are more ppl not doing this? If you are not going to buy one for your self, then go in with some friends....
 
Ok another Question...

Those of you with Kits.... Will you use your Kit to Test for your friends??? Do you enjoy getting to test new pills? Or do you only use it for personal use?
 
It's this simple. When YOU stop buying them, the dealers will stop selling them. I can proudly say I've never bought a pipe yet. And it's a track record I intend to maintain.
 
MrMan737 said:
The dangers presented by the plethora of unrecognizable piperazines in street pills are shining examples of why drug legalization needs to occur.

Hell- everybody is missing out. I know many a person who would rather pay 20 dollars for a single hit of pure MDMA than 10 dollars for a bag full of dirty rolls. The users would stay safe and the government would profit off of the tax money.

This world seems so silly some times. Haha.
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Totally agree,

i myself am one of the many who would rather pay more for a single hit of pure MDMA, but it be pounds instead of dollars where i am, lol

yeah SAY NO TO PIPS
 
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