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yea my eyes have yellow hue to them, not unlike elevated alt/ast liver valuies. Luckily i know its not that, but the fact is - I'm a guinea pig, so I don't know what is causing it !! Why it does that is beyond me. Aside from that, and the price, the compound is wonderful.
 
theartofwar said:
yea my eyes have yellow hue to them, not unlike elevated alt/ast liver valuies. Luckily i know its not that, but the fact is - I'm a guinea pig, so I don't know what is causing it !! Why it does that is beyond me. Aside from that, and the price, the compound is wonderful.
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no one knows
my question is, why would u use something that messes with some so precious to your life such as your vision
 
NeighborMike said:
no one knows
my question is, why would u use something that messes with some so precious to your life such as your vision
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We all have reasons to do what we do bro - I'm just logging it and letting you know, at least you don't waste money on the stuff and THEN find out the eye problem! This product offer quite a unique experience, the eyes as the side affect are one I will risk. Not being shut down, having prop type gains, this is the perfect way to bridge cycles imo.
 
I do a lot of driving so this will be impractical to run until I know the sun won't go down whilst I'm driving back to the office (or whilst I'm out on a job) otherwise I'm really interested..
 
NeighborMike said:
no one knows
my question is, why would u use something that messes with some so precious to your life such as your vision
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I completely agree. I'd wait for a LOT more research and time to go buy before I even consider experimenting. The more I read about this stuff, the more and more sides I hear about.

I was told by a user at my gym that this stuff gives very similar visual impairments that Seroquel does. I've taken Seroquel for a while before and your eyes can't focus at first...it's almost as if the room is vibrating and you eventually get dizzy.

Again, it's not like you are risking some acne or even worst, some liver scarring. We are talking about your eyes here, also known as the gates to our souls. :) Sure, AAS and PHs have many possible sides. But, under no condition would I f*ck with something that impairs my vision and could possibly cause some permanent damage. The best of luck to the guinea pigs out there, please do keep us posted.

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I'm done my run - sides didn't get any worse, but I'm ready to start my cycle, the SARMs costs an arm and leg so I'm gonna save what's left and run it pct. My eyes are almost the exact same as before I ran SARMs , I have no idea what it does long term.. long term use, higher doses etc - for me I can compare 50mg ed to running propionate at a reasonable dose. It feels like test - the acne side was a real first I'd never had that from any AAS before... can't compare it to anything else but prop - which I like quite a bit.
 
Well, if the eye side effect is as temporary as people say, this product seems to yield positive results. I am going to still wait for a lot more user reviews and give it time to see if there are any obvious long term side effects. The up side is that it seems to be effective, legal, and simple to use. The down side is that it is expensive, and there is no well drawn out research that has been done on the product.
 
The sides of night vision from S-4 always goes away when you stop usage. Not eveyone gets it. If you get it cut back the dose. 50mg to 100 seems to be the standard but people are making gains on 20 or 25mg. The great thing about S-4 is there is no shut down. You make gains like your on test P and Var and no shut down. Also users are never getting out of the gym. You can lift forever. Now I can't wait until the invent that myostatin blocker which is in trials now and I'v heard the research sites are working on it.
 
angelo212 said:
The sides of night vision from S-4 always goes away when you stop usage. Not eveyone gets it. If you get it cut back the dose. 50mg to 100 seems to be the standard but people are making gains on 20 or 25mg. The great thing about S-4 is there is no shut down. You make gains like your on test P and Var and no shut down. Also users are never getting out of the gym. You can lift forever. Now I can't wait until the invent that myostatin blocker which is in trials now and I'v heard the research sites are working on it.
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yup the endurance factor is HUGE on sarms - you literally should just cook a few steaks and sweet potatoes go camp out in the squat rack - can live in the gym on the stuff.
 
If your acne becomes a problem, pickup some 5% Spironolactone cream and rub it on 1-2x a day over the affected sites, its an anti-androgen that will occupy the receptors preventing the SARM agent(s) from promoting acne. Also using a Chlorhexidine Gluconate wash over the affected areas twice a day also helps alot. Thats been my experiences with androgen acne.
 
Art of war
I missed this prolly, but, did your night vision improve
was it gradual, and lingering effects?
 
Every BBer in this forum owes a huge dept to the brave idiots carrying out these experiments in search of larger biceps. In fact, we will all hold a fund raiser, and buy you that seeing eye dog you'll be needing. We are here for you my brother We are here.
 
Does anyone know the halflife, and how to store S4? I've been checking around and cant really find anything.
 
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