Sandy ketamine crystals

[tripcake]

I've recieved lately ketamine that looks less like the shardy flakey crystals I am used to and looks more like uniform square sand grains that I need to crush up to get any effect. It takes a lot more volume-wise to get to a point I want and has a different effect as far as..it feels heavier, and less fun in general. Less of the wobble effect and more of just drunk and sleepy.
Not really sure what direction to point my quest for what the difference is, so perhaps someone here can answer for me?

 

[runduderun]

It could be cut with something.

Or it might just be another blend of ketamine. I read that depending of the isomer (+/-) ketamine may be stronger or weaker, and having much different effects.

 

[Visitor Q]

This is odd.

It sounds to me like you're describing the aspect of uncooked ketamine (cubic sand-like shaped crystals) vs cooked (more fluffy, flakey) but uncooked ketamine IME is stronger.

Well, let me clarify, it's not necessarily that it's stronger but it's more dense, so a bump of equal volume will actually weigh more. Also it's harder on the nose IME.

If your hard, dense crystals are weaker then I really don't know... Maybe like runduderun suggested it is not pure.

 

[eclipsedesign]

Pop it in a frying pan and cook it up, increased surface area make the effect much stronger.

 

[mahatoka]

It might just be racemic, and before you were just getting S-isomer. I know racemic ket is a bit less potent by weight. I also think S-ket has less of a body-load and is more euphoric.

 

[Mob Rules]

I've recieved lately ketamine that looks less like the shardy flakey crystals I am used to and looks more like uniform square sand grains that I need to crush up to get any effect. It takes a lot more volume-wise to get to a point I want and has a different effect as far as..it feels heavier, and less fun in general. Less of the wobble effect and more of just drunk and sleepy.
Not really sure what direction to point my quest for what the difference is, so perhaps someone here can answer for me?

same here in these here parts. The pebbles (thats what we call em) are definatly alot weaker than the shards that were going around this product is definatly cut alot more than the shards with that flaky shit around it.

 

[tripcake]

This is odd.

It sounds to me like you're describing the aspect of uncooked ketamine (cubic sand-like shaped crystals) vs cooked (more fluffy, flakey) but uncooked ketamine IME is stronger.

Well, let me clarify, it's not necessarily that it's stronger but it's more dense, so a bump of equal volume will actually weigh more. Also it's harder on the nose IME.

If your hard, dense crystals are weaker then I really don't know... Maybe like runduderun suggested it is not pure.

I've gotten K(or been sold as) in three forms..the shardy stuff, which I usually like the effect of much more and feel is stronger, powder, which is ehhh and these crystals. Also ehh. For this reason I try to only buy the shards. They have always been sold to me as 'pre-form' though, and I was under the impression that the powder form was what had been cooked.

 

[Visitor Q]

^It may be different in the states, chances are high that we're not getting the same options.

The simplest way of descibing what is available in my part of the globe is to compare it to household goods:

The uncooked stuff we get looks like refined sugar crystals with uneven grains (coffee sugar).

The cooked stuff is less dense, more fluffy and somewhat flakey (but not shardy) and the grains (flakes) are white as opposed to clear/transparent. It's kind of like between confectioner's sugar (powdered sugar) and dehydrated mashed potatoes (powdered potato flakes).

I have never gotten "shards". Are you sure that's not ice/meth ?

(Just fuckin' with you )

 

[DJSMILEe]

I've gotten K(or been sold as) in three forms..the shardy stuff, which I usually like the effect of much more and feel is stronger, powder, which is ehhh and these crystals. Also ehh. For this reason I try to only buy the shards. They have always been sold to me as 'pre-form' though, and I was under the impression that the powder form was what had been cooked.

The best stuff i have seen and tried has been the preset stuff. It usually looks like sugar or lil larger crystals of salt, in some cases u can find longer crystaly shards that look like fine pieces of fragmented broken glass!
Ive seen some forms that have a yellow to tan look to them.
My question is.....

can the preform stuff be cut before synth because ive hade stuff that was pure crystal, but when cooked, it wold stick to the plate like glue almost and be hard to scrape off. Not like the usual light and fluffy easilly scraped!

Ive seen cut preform, and its quite obvious when you see the smallr powder frgments in the mixx with your regular shaped crystals.

also some preset mixed with water mixes clear and others mix foggy ...whats te deal with that>???

 

[DynoSpec]

the best k ive done has always looked exactly like MSG

 

[Mob Rules]

the best k ive done has always looked exactly like MSG

lol funny you should say that. The K in toronto used to be (probably still is but i dont know) cut with MSG and I remember having some shards that I now believe were cut with MSG though they had to have been the best "powder" K ive done.

 

[SKL]

^ keta is still cutt with MSG frequently.

I've seen keta like your describing. It was pretty good but nothing truly spectacular. the consistency of your gear can vary a lot, it's just the nature of chemical compounds and processes to extract them from soln.