San Pedro & Prozac
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BongsBeforeBlunts
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mescaline feels like LSD without the push or pull, the trip itself feels quite amazing you get the body high and nice visuals without them being "overly" intense, also it doesnt quite present the "mind fucks" that LSD has which tends to make your mind race with thoughts and questions you cannot answer before they fly away.
LSD v.s. Mescaline in strength i would say LSD is sometimes "harder" to handle but that depends on your experiences and chemical makeup
That also depends on how much you take if you extract it or eat it whole, that depends on you.
I've eaten san pedro before, honestly it takes like rotting puke but to each his own.
Enjoy!
LSD v.s. Mescaline in strength i would say LSD is sometimes "harder" to handle but that depends on your experiences and chemical makeup
That also depends on how much you take if you extract it or eat it whole, that depends on you.
I've eaten san pedro before, honestly it takes like rotting puke but to each his own.
Enjoy!
delphium
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Depends. Do you have dried cactus flesh/powder or are you working with fresh San Pedro? If it's the former, you'd probably need to consume 25-35 grams for moderate effects, whereas the latter is going to entail gobbling up a pound or more of fresh cactus. Frankly, neither of these methods is ideal for a number of reasons, first and foremost the complete gastrointestinal hell that they'll end up inducing an hour or so after consumption. But in your case, the fact that there is no way to determine the exact alkaloid content of the specimen you possess should be a major deterrent. Eating/drinking cactus is unpredictable enough when you aren't taking SSRI's that interfere with its action. Being as you are, I'd recommend strongly against attempting to trip on an indeterminate amount of mescaline. While SSRI's usually only serve to reduce the potency of serotonergic psychs, the degree to which they do so varies wildly from person to person, and therefore adds yet another confounding variable to the strength of your trip.
Thus my advice is this: wait until you've concluded your prozac treatment regimen (read: DO NOT simply stop taking your medication in order to trip) before messing with psychedelics. If this is really, truly unacceptable to you, then at least start with a known quantity of the psychedelic you're taking. In the case of mescaline, that's generally going to entail performing an extraction on cactus material of some form. The good news is, said extraction is simple and non-toxic and a pretty fun DIY project for a quiet afternoon at home on the weekend. Check out this thread for more info:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=445475
G'luck brother.
Thus my advice is this: wait until you've concluded your prozac treatment regimen (read: DO NOT simply stop taking your medication in order to trip) before messing with psychedelics. If this is really, truly unacceptable to you, then at least start with a known quantity of the psychedelic you're taking. In the case of mescaline, that's generally going to entail performing an extraction on cactus material of some form. The good news is, said extraction is simple and non-toxic and a pretty fun DIY project for a quiet afternoon at home on the weekend. Check out this thread for more info:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=445475
G'luck brother.
jam uh weezy
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25-30 grams? maybe if you had a killer-potent batch of it...highly unlikely. i wouldn't use under 100 if i don't want to be teased, and even that is relatively mild.(just barely scratching peak, imo)
i think the rest of what delphium says is pretty spot on, regarding your own personal well being/harm reduction...i have no clue about the effects of mesc on SSRI's, and I wouldn't fuck with it without some serious research.
i think the rest of what delphium says is pretty spot on, regarding your own personal well being/harm reduction...i have no clue about the effects of mesc on SSRI's, and I wouldn't fuck with it without some serious research.
delphium
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Exactly. From specimen to specimen the alkaloid content of San Pedro can vary from .2%-1.2% IIRC. And I don't know if that figure applies specifically to the green portion of the cactus flesh or the entire plant. I gave up on consuming san pedro in the form of powder or tea when it got to the point that I went into every experience EXPECTING to be disappointed. There was never any way to know where each plant/batch was going to take me. It was frustrating. And I suspect that trying to form that estimate having to also account for an SSRI would be nothing short of infuriating.
D-limonene extraction FTW.
Shambles
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Mostly covered above but in addition to the extraction thread posted above you may also find The B&D Mescaline/Cactus Thread and The B&D Medication Interactions Thread to be of use.
I'll close this one for now as it's covered elsewhere but please feel free to ask any further questions in their relevant threads. I'd also second the advice given above of not using psyches in conjunction with your medication without mucho research first. Some interactions can be deadly, although SSRIs are more commonly associated with reduced intensity than anything else. Well worth researching just in case though
I'll close this one for now as it's covered elsewhere but please feel free to ask any further questions in their relevant threads. I'd also second the advice given above of not using psyches in conjunction with your medication without mucho research first. Some interactions can be deadly, although SSRIs are more commonly associated with reduced intensity than anything else. Well worth researching just in case though
Shambles
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Reopened as per OP's request - carry on
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did you request that amount, or does it come pre-weighed/packaged like that? they may sell small amounts reinforced with other synthetics etc, so you should jusk ask at the shop you bought it from.
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cheers guys i havent actually brought it yet but I was going to *snip*
but now im going to give it a miss
Ive still got about 50 LSA seeds and I did 5 last week and didnt feel nauseas but didnt feel very high either I just felt a bit light headed.
So im going to try 15 LSA seeds 1st thing in the morning on an empty stomach.
but now im going to give it a miss
Ive still got about 50 LSA seeds and I did 5 last week and didnt feel nauseas but didnt feel very high either I just felt a bit light headed.
So im going to try 15 LSA seeds 1st thing in the morning on an empty stomach.
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daysonatrain
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by lsa seeds im assuming you mean h. baby woodrose. these things vary in potency greatly, i have tripped quite hard on 8 seeds, and felt nothing (but extreme nausea) on 20. dont take them lightly, they can fuck you up. test the waters first.
AfterGlow
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IMHO, taking psychedelics while you're on an SSRI is like trying to drive a car up hill by pressing the gas pedal while you've still got the emergency brake engaged. The brake is meant to retard your speed while the gas pedal is there to accelerate.
You take an SSRI to stabilize and moderate your emotions and state of mind while a psychedelic will enhance them to extreme.
Take one or the other but not both
You take an SSRI to stabilize and moderate your emotions and state of mind while a psychedelic will enhance them to extreme.
Take one or the other but not both
swilow
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^I disagree; why can't one take two forms of medication at once? They are not contraindicated at all really....Their MOA are very different; mescaline can be safely and fulfillingly taken while on an SSRI. I have taken multiple drugs while I was on SSRI's, very little difference in effects.
I will say, subjectively, that I now (SSRI-less for a year maybe) need very large doses of PEA's, but am pretty sensitive to tryptamines.
I will say, subjectively, that I now (SSRI-less for a year maybe) need very large doses of PEA's, but am pretty sensitive to tryptamines.
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i disagree with some of the people here's analysis. Some batches at least give noticeable effects at 15g and a mild to moderate effect at 28g. At least that's been my experience over like 40 trips
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no im just going to do hbw now, is there any anti sickness pills that work even though ive never had nausea from it.
im not joking when i say i feel its all i have to do, either that or kill someone 3 people that fucked me over. then id kill myself.
im deadly serious im sick n tired of life at 22, i honestly dont see how its possible my state of mind can get any worse. I need to feel joy in some way or another.
imagine if you hadnt had sex or any physical contact(kissing etc) with a girl for 2 years.
im not joking when i say i feel its all i have to do, either that or kill someone 3 people that fucked me over. then id kill myself.
im deadly serious im sick n tired of life at 22, i honestly dont see how its possible my state of mind can get any worse. I need to feel joy in some way or another.
imagine if you hadnt had sex or any physical contact(kissing etc) with a girl for 2 years.
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bad trip in the making
op, I have seen many bad trips and had a few myself. Taking any entheogen out of desperation to gain the joy that you find missing in your life is extremely dangerous. You might think you have nothing to lose but if you can't come to terms with the root causes of your depression and go into a trip with a positive attitude then you have nothing to gain. That's not to say you have to have all this shit sorted out, you most certainly don't but you can't be in a hopeless state and expect to see all the good that eludes you if you honestly don't even believe it exists. Please be careful I've seen too many people hurt themselves.
op, I have seen many bad trips and had a few myself. Taking any entheogen out of desperation to gain the joy that you find missing in your life is extremely dangerous. You might think you have nothing to lose but if you can't come to terms with the root causes of your depression and go into a trip with a positive attitude then you have nothing to gain. That's not to say you have to have all this shit sorted out, you most certainly don't but you can't be in a hopeless state and expect to see all the good that eludes you if you honestly don't even believe it exists. Please be careful I've seen too many people hurt themselves.
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so then folks
I ended up doing 25 hbw seeds yesterday and after roughly 4hours felt nothing.
So I smoked some of my mates skunk joint and within minutes felt really shakey.
Like my whole body was sorta shakin and I didnt feel relaxed and my heart was racing.
This wasnt a nice experience and for a few hours I was in this state until I gradually returned to normal.
But I had no hallucinagenic effects or anything other than a horrible canabis high. Its just too intense for me.
I just hope when I do shrooms I wont get a negative effect like this.
I ended up doing 25 hbw seeds yesterday and after roughly 4hours felt nothing.
So I smoked some of my mates skunk joint and within minutes felt really shakey.
Like my whole body was sorta shakin and I didnt feel relaxed and my heart was racing.
This wasnt a nice experience and for a few hours I was in this state until I gradually returned to normal.
But I had no hallucinagenic effects or anything other than a horrible canabis high. Its just too intense for me.
I just hope when I do shrooms I wont get a negative effect like this.