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Salvia times more and more
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Starshowers
Bluelighter
Just a higher potency. 40x standardized is twice as potent as 20x standardized.
pofacedhoe
Bluelight Crew
i would never describe salvia as feeling lucid...
knock
Bluelighter
The original point of the extracts was to allow the smoker to inhale less smoke to get the necessary amount of Salvinorin A into the bloodstream, not to get ever increasing quantities in - so it's not really about getting a different experience but enabling a full experience for those who don't want to inhale so much smoke.
If someone is unable to get enough smoke into their lungs from plain leaf then of course a higher potency extract may allow that and then it WILL change the experience.
So the answer to that question is both.
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stumblestoprepeat
Bluelighter
I've always been curious about this myself, especially after seeing some extracts that claimed insanely high concentrations (upwards of 100x????). 20x was almost more than enough for me the few times I did salvia, I can't even imagine the point of these (alleged) ridiculously high potency extracts.
Edit: I guess I'm mostly curious about the truth behind these stated concentrations..
Edit: I guess I'm mostly curious about the truth behind these stated concentrations..
IamMe90
Bluelighter
well, there is a point. I smoked 100x extract and only had to take one, semi large hit to break through. I would never buy it normally, but as salvia recently became illegal in my state, our headshop was selling all salvia products half off... thought I might as well snag some.
knock
Bluelighter
I can say with some certainty that real honest 50x extract is available, to explain why would mean vendor talk.
I would think the widespread availability and popularity of such high concentrations is mostly to do with marketing and perceptions.
I would think the widespread availability and popularity of such high concentrations is mostly to do with marketing and perceptions.
Clockwork Soldier
Greenlighter
Basically it means you can smoke a smaller amount with an increased effect, its the same substance though. You'll get no new effects from 60x extract that you wouldn't get from enough 5x extract. Really though, once you get into the higher concentrations it isn't worth going any further, even a small dose will take you past the breakthrough point. You don't want or need to go any higher than that. If you do you'll most likely start to completely lose lucidity and sometimes forget details or whole trips (which might be a blessing to be fair). You'd be better off taking a decent dose of 60x in a couple of hits, doesn't get much better (or worse) than that. 
psood0nym
Bluelighter
400x is pure salvinorin A. This is based on analysis of natural leaf containing 2.5 mg salvinorin A per gram. 2.5 X 400 = 1000 mg.
http://www.sagewisdom.org/wolowichetal.pdf
Yes the salvia extracts are just concentrated salvia meaning one hit of 80x would equal the effects of two hits of 40x or 4 hits of 20x, one hit of 40x would equal the effects of two hits of 20x or 4 hits of 10x and so on and so forth. So if you were able to hit some 10x 6 times, you would be feeling the same as if you had taken one hit of 60x. So no matter how high or low the extract is, the drug will always be salvia, the effects will always be the same as long as you measure your number of hits vs. the extract to get to what level you want to go to.
Still there is a very damn big difference between one hit of 10x, one hit of 20x, one hit of 40x, one hit of 60x, one hit of 80x and so on. Why? Because the effects change depending on the dose.
So there is a big difference between 1 hit of 10x and 3 hits of 10x, but there is no difference between 3 hits of 10x and one hit of 30x. Hope that helps!