Salvia Texture and Movement

[RhythmSpring]

Does the Salvia itself go "chugga-chugga," or does the Salvia make us aware of an already ongoing, inner-"chugga-chugga"?

 

[Solipsis]

Could you please elaborate and help make this a little less esoteric?

If there is a sensation of cadence, the explanation that comes to mind is that it is either amplified awareness of a bodily function like your heartbeat or blood coarsing through your veins (which is what you hear when you put a shell to your ear), or it is the compounds from salvia interacting with your nervous system creating patterns in the signal transduction cascade certain parts of your CNS. The concept reminds me of inferference of travelling waves.

I never experienced things like this on Salvia, but with ketamine or cannabis (among others) strobing / flanging effects can be common. With LSD, I remember at one point I saw super intense ripples in the fabric of spacetime, when a ripple passed me it sounded like the ground frequency of the universe (whatever the hell that means), like AUMMMMMMMMM. Later I found out that I was definitely not the first person to experience that tone. If hardpressed I still think that my best explanation would be the one above that I gave.

Well, at least that is my idea about phenomena like this...

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Does the Salvia itself go "chugga-chugga," or does the Salvia make us aware of an already ongoing, inner-"chugga-chugga"?

Definitely the latter. There are other things that let you feel it too*, and my intoxicated mind is usually certain that it is the basis/true nature of reality/the universe.

*I associate it with strong dissociative (adjective, not noun) experiences.

 

[thoughtsUnThought]

Solipsis, you blew my mind with that fact about the seashell!!

From my experience, perceptual alterations from psychedelics come from two main roots. Daydream type ideation which covers up a part of my perceptual field (like thinking about a scorpion on some subconscious level, and then seeing a tree turn into one. Or hearing cartoon spring sounds bouncing around everywhere).

Or even more common for me, an increase in my awareness of subtle stimulus in my surroundings: seeing the wave nature of light, noticing sound waves traveling and causing reverb/echo effects, noticing heat waves bending the image in a mirage-like effect etc.

So a repeated effect of a chugga chugga, could be either some kind of internal/external vibration which goes unnoticed usually and which the psychedelic experience is making apparent to your perceptual facilities. Or perhaps it was a sound your brain created with its imagination on an occasion, and now you have a disposition which tends towards this effect reoccurring.

 

[RhythmSpring]

Such good answers here!

I gather, from your responses and some introspection on my part, that these almost-sonic repetitions are somehow reflections of various body rhythms. Chemical cascades, blood blow, stuff like that.

 

[justinsayno]

salvia is the ultimate rubber hand illusion

 

[Venrak]

, and my intoxicated mind is usually certain that it is the basis/true nature of reality

Me too. I go into it aware I took a drug, then I get distracted by some drastic shift of perspective or sudden ego loss, and poof, its like I've always been there.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

For me it would be as if everything were moving at this particular rhythm, and its accompanying sound would follow.

Yeah, it's like the pulsing is going through the entire universe, and is tactile as well as aural (I don't want to limit it to those two, so let's just say it's multi-sensory).

 

[stormcharger]

Could you please elaborate and help make this a little less esoteric?

If there is a sensation of cadence, the explanation that comes to mind is that it is either amplified awareness of a bodily function like your heartbeat or blood coarsing through your veins (which is what you hear when you put a shell to your ear), or it is the compounds from salvia interacting with your nervous system creating patterns in the signal transduction cascade certain parts of your CNS. The concept reminds me of inferference of travelling waves.

I never experienced things like this on Salvia, but with ketamine or cannabis (among others) strobing / flanging effects can be common. With LSD, I remember at one point I saw super intense ripples in the fabric of spacetime, when a ripple passed me it sounded like the ground frequency of the universe (whatever the hell that means), like AUMMMMMMMMM. Later I found out that I was definitely not the first person to experience that tone. If hardpressed I still think that my best explanation would be the one above that I gave.

Well, at least that is my idea about phenomena like this...

Thats what makes the noise with the sea shell? I can rest in peace now