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Ethnobotanicals [Salvia Subthread] Extract 100X Strength

when i was smoking salvia with fair regularity i got to the point where a hit or two of plain leaf would open up all the extra dimensions and provide overwhelming effects and visuals.
 
iv had 80x and thats the only time iv got any visuals from sally d so just smoke the highest you can get hold of in my opinion it will be over soon enough
 
the whole point to 40x and greater extracts isnt for a more powerful intense trip its for using less salvia in order to get the desired results i would assume that 1 gram of 40x is equivelent to 1.5 to 2 grams of salvia 20x. if your blacking out after taking a haul of 80x its because your using to much. i did 20x and then went on to 30x all i needed for a full blown salvia trip when using 30x was just a pinch of it id say half of what i would use for 20x or even less. needless to say this 30x has lasted my pretty long.
 
Delsyd said:
I like to make my own extracts. I have no idea what X they are thouh.
Ill be damned if ill ever smoke that shit again. But my friends do seem to enjoy it/
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YEah man, I'll prob never smoke salvia again. alot of my other DEEP psycheelic moments I end up building assosiation with previouse salvia experiences which just turns it into the worng way I want to build my pardigm.
 
Good lord.

100x...

That would be like, KICK IN THE BAWLZ.

Still, It would be rather interesting...
 
I was looking to buy 50X but after seeing a majority say that 20X is good enough, I might go with something lower. As far as I know, only one of my friends is interested in it, so we'll probably split the cost and go to some other room.

The first (and last) time I did it I got this intense body high that was so powerful I thought I was about to explode. I couldn't stop laughing and I felt like I was being pulled (pushed?) backward by some unknown force and I briefly saw everything as 2-dimensional as opposed to 3-dimensional. That was on 20X, I think, so when I do go buy it I'll probably get 30-40X.

What I really want to try once I'm well acquainted with Lady Salvia is to introduce her to Lady Lucy, but I feel like that might be pushing it.
 
took two hits of 80x salvia after bunch of speed and nothing happened to me while my friend said it was instant panic attack. did the speed stop my high
 
I've done 120x on one of my first trips with salvia (retarded, yes I know.) The trip apparently lasted 3 minutes but it seemed much longer. I ended up jumping onto my buddies computer table,smashing a bunch of glass, and I almost punched my friend in the face. Its really hard to explain what happened because it was such a shock but ill try. After I exhaled the hit, all of my friends faces and body parts got morphed together into one figure, shortly after that it felt like I got shot out of a cannon. I remember flying full speed until I hit a wall and was at the feet of two people wearing yellow and red. Once spotted they yelled "get him" over and over and that's when I began to try to escape in a crazy panic. I remember them saying I wasn't supposed to be there and I was going through all these different portals trying to escape. I was trapped at one point and grabbed one of the people (was actually my friend) and raised my fist but didn't strike. After I was done tripping I was convinced they caught me and nothing/nobody around me was real. When I was calm my friend took a hit and had a similar trip. While watching him he had his head in his hands and mumbling strange things.. He was mentioning yellow and red people chanting and mocking him.. He said they never caught me but they have him. He looked up at me with a very lost face and told me a lady in green was beside me with her arm around me. I don't know what to make of any of this because I went into all of this pretty blindly. I plan to take salvia again but 120x is just stupid atm.. I ended up with my hands cut up pretty badly
 
I took a bowl of 10x 4 years ago and had a full out-of-body experience for 5 minutes, and then suffered the worst discomfort of my life for the 10 minutes after I came back to this reality. I haven't done it since.

100x is so far beyond overkill I don't even know where to start.
 
Took a huge bong rip of 80x. I don't know why I would need 100x! let alone 30x!!

I never wanna go back to that dimension!8o
 
Toltec said:
if you could Iv it that'd be insane!

Again: no you can't IV leaf material.
WOW
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Not leaf material, I'm not worried about embolism here, the extract. Salvinorin not saliva. I've IV'd marijuana which I've used lipids to extract (cooking oil) and then micron filtered down to 0.22 microns with luer tip filters. So again, is the molecule itself safe to shoot or does it have a histamine reaction that would cause anaphylaxis (a la codeine, which I've shoot too BTW, it's safe in small doses). I shot up generic citalopram hydrobromide (90mg, three pills, probably not all dissolved into the tap water solution though) just today, and with no very adverse reactions (feels like mainlining MDMA for about one second, pupils dilate, heart races, but it kills rather than enhances, at least my own, sex drive, and I'm kicking opiates at the moment so that is saying something), gave me the shakes for about 6 hours though.
 
a full bowl of 50x was enough for a *****/***** trip. 100% out of body, I mean.

Dose duration increase? I can literally see no way that I could possibly have been tripping harder than when I smoked a few huge lung fulls of 50x.
 
Nagelfar said:
Not leaf material, I'm not worried about embolism here, the extract. Salvinorin not saliva. I've IV'd marijuana which I've used lipids to extract (cooking oil) and then micron filtered down to 0.22 microns with luer tip filters. So again, is the molecule itself safe to shoot or does it have a histamine reaction that would cause anaphylaxis (a la codeine, which I've shoot too BTW, it's safe in small doses). I shot up generic citalopram hydrobromide (90mg, three pills, probably not all dissolved into the tap water solution though) just today, and with no very adverse reactions (feels like mainlining MDMA for about one second, pupils dilate, heart races, but it kills rather than enhances, at least my own, sex drive, and I'm kicking opiates at the moment so that is saying something), gave me the shakes for about 6 hours though.
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Why do you want to inject it? Smoking has a very fast onset and depending on the material you start with (apparently in your case pure Salvinorin crystals) you can trip as hard as you like, in fact in most cases, harder than the person wanted.

I see you're quitting opiates, I think if you feel like you need to inject something to help with the process, then get hold of some "water for injection" vials, IV one of those and then smoke the Salvia straight after (same with other drugs, just try to time it so you start feeling the drug of choice slightly after the IV water). I don't want to have to state the obvious, but definately don't try to IV anything in the middle of a Salvia trip!

I've just quit the opiates myself so I know how hard it can be, injecting random chemicals isn't the answer though. At best you'll end up having some really bad experiences and you know the "at worst" scenario. Please be safe.
 
I sitted someone who was on x100.

It was my brother and his third time doing x100. I myself have never done any drugs and probably wasn't the best canidate for a sitter. My brother told me all I had to was watch and make sure he didn't do anything crazy (although, he never specified what "crazy" was).

We agreed I had to sit him because the last time I found him smoking salvia, he was out in the backyard naked, screaming, "I don't like this."

As I said, he'd done salvia only twice before, both times using x100. He said he didn't really like the drug because it made him feel like "killing himself". He also said he saw many Alice in Wonderland type visions aka the rabbit, the catipillar etc.

So I waited as he took his three hits from some tin-foil make shift bowl he was using. He laid on the bed and seemed calm. A few moments later, his eyes opened wide and I thought his eyeballs were going to pop out of his head. He started making some weird groaning/moaning sounds and wiping himself up and down his body as if to get something off. Then he started just screaming and yelling. "The bunny's trying to kill me," he screamed as he ran around the room. I tried telling him to calm down, but he couldn't hear me. I made the mistake of slapping him because I was so scared and he just freaked out more. Then, he collapsed to floor and started giggling. "I'm glued to the floor," he chuckled.

He then shot back up, looked around, appearing exhausted. I asked if he could hear me and he just nodded. A few moments later, he was conscious and I asked him what he saw.

He said he saw little evil toy soliders climbing up his body, cackling. He felt very uncomfortable and tried getting them off, but they kept climbing. Next, the bunny from Alice and Wonderland appeared, holding a knife, and started hopping toward him, chasing him. Then, he said he felt some force pull him down. I asked for more details, but he wouldn't say anything. It's been four months since that day and everytime I try to ask him about his other experiences or more about the time I sitted him, he gets very angry and tells me he doesn't want to talk about it.

Needless to say, I don't think he saw very nice things, especially since he also described that "suicidal" feeling. He threw out after that time and swore he'd never touch the stuff again.

Maybe, we did something wrong. I thought doing it in his own bedroom would be safest. I tried putting on some soft acoustic music. He smoked salvia x100 his first, second, and third time and I believe you probably shouldn't go that high if you've only being doing it for a few weeks.

The experience scared both of us, although, interested me a lot since I'm intellectually curious from a psychological and writing standpoint.

My brother's so shaken, he said he won't even sit me if I try it.

Not discouraging it, but I believe you said be prepared and have a strong respect for the stuff.
 
You talk about respect, but was the amount of x100 extract actually weighed?
The more potent your extract is the more important it becomes that you pick a correct dose
on forehand and just smoke that for the time being.

Plain leaf may be more suitable to just stuff in a pipe and blaze away but with potent extracts just not enough might not work but just a tiny bit too much could get you more than you bargained for.

I mean this as constructive criticism but IMO it is not fair to blame anything other than an incorrect method of use ....which you didn't really, I am speaking in general because that is what happens a lot: Someone thinks every drug can be used like a beer, you just chug it and it should work itself out, then if it doesnt, the drug is evil.

Set and setting do matter, but I think they matter the most in the moments before using Salvia, unless you take a medium ++ dose of it and are still in contact with the surroundings. With really high doses you become dissociated anyway and I think that factors that determine the outcome are suddenly the things that have happened in the previous days, weeks, years even...
Some of it might even not be explained clearly at all. Extreme dissociation can produce things more hallucination like in nature than psychedelia. I found medium doses to be more psychedelic.
 
I'm not sure how much was taken and, yes, that does matter. I don't think salvia is evil, but I do think it should be handled by someone who knows what he or she is doing. My brother was definitely not knowledgable about salvia. He thought it was going to be like a marijuana experience. He was sadly mistaken.

I was wonderng something. If you have a history of being paranoid, anxious, or just generally wound-up, will you experience suffer? I would like to try salvia, but I'm a very anxious and generally paranoid person. Even when I'm "calm" I tend to feel as if I'm being watched and whatnot. Should I avoid salvia all togther or start with a low dosage and potenetcy to find my "happy-medium"? I'd hate to miss out on some of the more mind-altering aspects of salvia. I'd be interested to see what my conscience comes up with.
 
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