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salvia/facing my fears

di.ACE.tyl.rob said:
I'd say it is flawed. Beer to 151 would be like saying Salvia leaves vs. 80x extract, that would be correct. But saliva & DMT are two totally different substances. DMT is intense yes, but doesn't carry the overwhelming sense of terror that salvia is notorious for if you've ever done the two. And the OP has a personal issue with salvia because of his experience on it, if he were to consume a different psychadelic that did not have the same stigma, he can go into it with a clearer, more confident mindset. I say DMT because it is short-lived, thus if he still is uncomfortable he doesn't have another 8 hours to ride out. Hear me?

PS: You're complaining about name calling & go on to call the poster an asshole while telling him he's worthless. Either sarcasm or stupidity.
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you catch on fast
 
the analogy: salvia can fuck you up, just like beer. But, DMT is pretty much guaranteed to fuck you being recognition; just like 151.

its not comparing apples to oranges.
 
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the analogy: salvia can fuck you up, just like beer. But, DMT is pretty much guaranteed to fuck you being recognition; just like 151.

its not comparing apples to oranges.
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Or you're wrong.

DMT isn't like that. You can vary the dose, and get a range of intensity in your experience. Anyone who is unaware of this obviously hasn't smoked DMT, or hasn't experimented at all and is stupid. I think DMT is a great first time substance. It can provide great visuals with almost no mind fuck. Also I find on any amount of DMT I'm still consciously myself, whereas on salvia I go to whackyland and completely lose my grip on everything.
 
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the analogy: salvia can fuck you up, just like beer. But, DMT is pretty much guaranteed to fuck you being recognition; just like 151.
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I find this to be a very shallow conclusion.

If your point is to get "fucked up beyond recognition" then I recommend just going straight to the hard liquor and avoiding the trouble of scoring or growing Salvia or DMT. Some good old Vodka or gasoline will do the trick.

If however you are interested in the complex relationship between humans and psychedelics and you strive towards mind-expanding and/or unique experiences, you will appreciate the fine differences between substances and their individual "spirit" or "personality".

You simply cannot compare such radically different psychoactives as Salvinorin A and Dimethyltryptamine.
 
okay okay okay. if weed is a 2 and lsd is a 5, what is belladonna? negative 8? Probably a negative 8.5 I think. Which means that Salvia is probably an imaginary number, and DMT is the color purple on a spectrum from ketamine to 10. Am I right?
 
Other than the weed being a 2 and lsd a 5, I agree with you. (I think a factor of 2.5 isn't enough between them) Salvia is definitely the sqrt of -1 though imo so you're spot on there.
 
RhythmSpring said:
okay okay okay. if weed is a 2 and lsd is a 5, what is belladonna? negative 8? Probably a negative 8.5 I think. Which means that Salvia is probably an imaginary number, and DMT is the color purple on a spectrum from ketamine to 10. Am I right?
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No, you're wrong.

Weed may be a 2 indeed, but LSD is a 0 since it swivels from -5 to 5 continuously which averages 0 (or -0). If we were to degree a scale from Ketamine to 10 we would first have to determine the range of those degrees (Fahrenheit or Celsius) in order to compare the variants in a "Tempora Mutantur" fashion (being of equal analogies and still dynamic).

This puts my calculations of DMT somewhere between blue and aqua but not the "Seafoam" aqua, more of that weird aqua paint that you find in old people's homes and vintage cars.
(You were not far off with the purple)

Belladonna (Or its sister Datura) I say would probably, on a percentage scale, score somewhere between "Alf" and "Burt Reynolds" (but without the moustache).

Back in the day I came up with Ted Danson, but recalculations have demonstrated otherwise.
 
Visitor Q said:
No, you're wrong.

Weed may be a 2 indeed, but LSD is a 0 since it swivels from -5 to 5 continuously which averages 0 (or -0). If we were to degree a scale from Ketamine to 10 we would first have to determine the range of those degrees (Fahrenheit or Celsius) in order to compare the variants in a "Tempora Mutantur" fashion (being of equal analogies and still dynamic).

This puts my calculations of DMT somewhere between blue and aqua but not the "Seafoam" aqua, more of that weird aqua paint that you find in old people's homes and vintage cars.
(You were not far off with the purple)

Belladonna (Or its sister Datura) I say would probably, on a percentage scale, score somewhere between "Alf" and "Burt Reynolds" (but without the moustache).

Back in the day I came up with Ted Danson, but recalculations have demonstrated otherwise.
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Sources please.
 
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Holy crap, that was really trippy, in the true sense of the word. For the record, the dodo, at least from the neck up looked like a DMT entity I felt once...
 
I know. The dude with the 3 way pipe thing with the cigarette/cigar/tobacco pipe was mind blowingly awesome to me. I actually watched this on acid last night. It was fucking grand. Had to mention it at some point today ;)
 
Teotzlcoatl said:
WTF? you can't give psychoactives a number... they are just all different.
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Oh go away already. Obviously you didn't actually read any of that.

We're using colours, characters, imaginary numbers and all sorts of shit. I'm pretty sure the point we're making is that they're all different.

But thanks for clarifying what we were saying by agreeing with us, even though you obviously seem to think we're wrong. Then again, you think everyone's always wrong except you, so there you go.
 
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