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Salvia Extract Experiences?

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Foshizzle45

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This is my first post, I would enjoy knowing how people feel before they "break through". My first time I started with 30x extract and smoked about 1/4 of it. I had such a terrible experience, I would like to know if it will get better next time I try it? Does the trip completely change each time? Please I wouldn't mind any feedback as long as it relates to Salvia.

On a side note, MANY precautions were taken by me before the trip, and i was is almost the ideal environment for the trip. (Except for the crickets outside, which ended up destroying my trip and making it terrifying for me)
 
I would just do it in the most comfortable environment possible, and try to relax and just let your mind slide right into the breakthrough.

not that the experience of the breakthrough is actually going to be relaxing, its usually just very odd and disorienting. salvia breakthroughs almost never actually have representational imagery for me, meaning they're usually just abstract paradoxes of space accompanied by some sort of geometric forms that seem to be doing some sort of impossible kaleidoscope motion.

i've heard other people talk about being in a circus, or seeing wolves or snakes or entities but for me it's pretty much always just a big swirling mass of stuff I can only really relate to through my knowledge of geometry and 3 dimensional space.
 
Salvia is a very weird drug far more bizzare than ketamine, dmt, ect. You get true hallucinations not just illusions. I have done it many times and had very differnt trips. I actualy broke through my first time. I took 2-3 huge hits and all of a sudden I turned into a traffic light and my friend on the couch next to me looked like her was on the sidewalk. I ended up snapping out of it because he was asking if I was ok cause had my head back with my mouth wide open and was drooling on my self. Once I mixed salvia and then nitrouse right after while peaking on mdma. It was probly one of the most intence trips of my life. I left my body and got transported to the fllor of a rain forest.

I find settng is very important with salvia. The smallest distractions can shift it to a bad trip or make you snap out. That is why I prefer doing it alone. I find playing some soft instramental music goes good with the trip. Turn all the lights off, take 2-3 huge hits, and then plop down on your bed and close your eyes.
 
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^ Plopping down on your bed indeed! For me it's a very solitary experience. I mean, I'll do it around friends too, but it's not as deep or therapeutic as when I do it alone. Funny the OP mentions crickets- I have the opposite reaction. A few Salvia trips ago I was outside, and I was just entranced by the sounds of crickets. There were also human voices in the background (actually) that were pissing me off, but man, the sound of any animal was just music to my ears.

A lot of people just don't like Salvia. You may be one of those people. Or you may choose to keep trying.

To be honest, I don't enjoy smoking Salvia, though I do it all the time. It is not a "drug" that you can expect recreation, fun, a pleasant buzz or high from. That's not what it's about. It's about something far deeper, having to do with space, time, reality, consciousness, and a Sim-City like world. It has to do with opening your mind and heart, but *ever* so subtly that you only realize you have been opened after the main effects wear off.

tl;dr - Salvia is not fun, don't expect it to be. Salvia is a teacher plant.
 
My first breakthrough with salvia was the single most intense/frightening trips of my life. I have yet to re-enter that space I did 5 years ago, but every other trip on salvia has had the same vibe more or less.

The feeling of entering the "after" world or higher plane is felt. An instant loss of all memory of who or what you are, or that you took a drug (at least for the duration of the peak) Extremely uncomfortable sensations such as feeling as though one is being torn up, I always try to explain it like this, I feel like im the pages in a book, and someone is quickly flipping and tearing the pages. Time seems to be completely irrelevant in a breakthrough space, seconds literately turn to days.

Im always filled with this notion that I am getting a glimps of something behind our reality, something humans are not ready to see yet. I feel like this is truly a shamanic tool. Use it with respect. use it to learn, not to trip. Don't take it lightly, If that makes sense :] hope this helps buddy. I
 
Very Helpful, I feel the same exact way you do every time, To me it feels like someone is taking jumper cables and sending huge shocks through my body until, I black out. I can see what you mean by the pages, to me it is very uncomfortable, is it the same for you?
 
I have broken through with both as much as 40X and as "little" as 5X.

A very, very experienced friend of mine told me not to do over 5X, as it looses its meaning and that Salvia will slap you around.

I have to agree with my friend, 5X is a very good dose. You remember most of your trip, and you can breakthrough just as good as higher doses.
 
Unfortunately I only have 30x 50x and 60x! They are all standardized. I've had extremely intense trips with 30x and haven't really gained up the courage to try anything stronger ATM. I sometimes just smoke a very small amount of the x30(about .1) and I feel the oncoming effects and I don't break through, but I do have a type of intense euphoric feeling. This is my favorite way of using it because you can't have a bad trip, you may feel a bit more uncomfortable because you will be awake during the period where you would have broken through.

I have done it about 12 times in about a week, It has made me enjoy the drug, and also give it a lot of respect, because if you do to much by accident, you are screwed because there is no way out of it once you let go of your last hit.
 
Dr. Rabid said:
If you're using extracts that intense, you probably shouldn't take more than one hit. I took three hits of 10x extract and was incapacitated for five minutes.
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My break-through last around 6 minutes on 1 hit held in for about 30-35 seconds, so you probably had something similar to me.

I was also curious, why don't I ever laugh on Salvia? I have seen video's of people becoming histerical after taking there hit, is it because they are immature or is it just a reflex because they are so terrified?
 
Foshizzle45 said:
My break-through last around 6 minutes on 1 hit held in for about 30-35 seconds, so you probably had something similar to me.

I was also curious, why don't I ever laugh on Salvia? I have seen video's of people becoming histerical after taking there hit, is it because they are immature or is it just a reflex because they are so terrified?
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Neither; for me everything just became hilarious, and my entire body felt tingly and giddy. I couldn't help laughing.
 
I've found over the years that the potency of an extract varies from brand to brand despite how many X's are being advertised. 5x can be more than enough, and 15x the limit, and sometimes up to 20x of another brand would just give me a buzz.

I need to write down all my Salvia experiences. But to sum it up, it is the most bizarrely intense psychedelic I have ever tried. Even after having dozens of"break-through" experiences, I still think it's weird as hell. Ranging from watching my friend's head lift off his neck to complete ego and memory loss, being energy racing at light speed through hyperspace, shifting dimensions, meeting entities (the same ones in THREE different trips), ending up in a woodland village, etcetera, etcetera... Salvia's changed me.

You'll definitely trip a few balls.
 
That's why it is best to stick to standardized extracts! Also, I recommend *snip - NO SOURCE DISCUSSION*, but I don't seem to "trip" Nothing seems to be alien-like to me, I only have moments where i see everything around me and try talking, but nobody ever responds, they just stare at me.
 
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