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Salvia Divinorum, it changed my life

Libido

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It’s been a while ago, since I had my first and one and only out of body (oobe) experience. I think it was in April 2003. The sacred plant I used was Salvia Divinorum. I smoked salvia 5x extract in a regular water-pipe. I also was under the influence of 5-meo-AMT that night. In this part of my life I was accustoming myself into the psychedelic realms. The salvia, I was holding in my hands that night, would be the reason of a spiritual and mystical flight through different universes. This occasion changed my life. For example: I had an alcohol problem and after this experience I stopped with drinking alcohol. My social live was getting better. I live a much healthier life now. My interests in the spiritual, mystical, philosophy, religious and scientific (biology/ chemical) aspects of life increased incredible. I am also more interested in nature and her forces, I love plants, trees, mushrooms (and their sacred, healing and hallucinogenic powers), I love my life, this life. I was going to school ‘again’ and I liked it, because the interesting subjects (chemistry, biology, physics, math and philosophy) I had/have. I could name more changes in my life, but all in all it had a positive influence on my life.

What happened this night what was so intense that it turned my life into another direction, the right direction.

We were sitting in Growthspurt’s former house this night. I was spending the evening with Growthspurt, Blowmonkey, M1 and M2. It was a comfortable environment (because this room was familiar to me) with people I know. The atmosphere in the room and backyard was also comfortable. While we were sitting in the garden, I drank my 5 Mg. of 5-meo-AMT. In two hours I smoked a bowl filled with salvia leaves. After inhaling I didn’t notice anything, except a rush over my entire body that was pulling on al my muscles. It was a strange, but nice feeling.

After two hours I smoked my first salvia 5x extract ever. After a real big inhalation of Salvia, I hold it in as long as I could which was difficult, because I felt an irritation in my throat and lungs. When I reached the point where my spirit was launched into, for me, the unknown, I blew the smoke out of my entire body. The onset was really fast, but it didn’t bother me. At the same time I blew the smoke out, I saw everyone staring. They wondered how I was reacting to the drug. This was a weird situation, with a weird feeling that was vibrating over my body. It felt if my spirit was shaken this feeling of his existence.
My body dissolved in a few seconds and my ego fade away. I was sucked up to the above, when I saw my body sitting there, soul-ness, in the room. I left it behind with my friends. My grip and view on the reality was getting smaller and thinner.
At the same time the universe (multiverse) was embracing me with her infinite space and possibilities. I never felt so alone. But this loneliness feeling was just for a short duration. I saw, as far my view reached, geometric patterns. They came out the endlessness black universe (multiverse) filled with stars and galaxies. The patterns were tumbling and shifting. They were changing colours in the speed of light, but I could follow it. The emphatic colours were yellow, white, green and al little red. It was a beautiful combination of colours, so bright.
After this I flied further, I passed a sort of gate. It was ‘looking’ like a kind of ‘blocking wall’, but it wasn’t visible, touchable ore material. A wall between different dimensions, it separates the dimension from the other ones. After I passed this gate, I took place in another dimension. It was a glass-like space with a grey tint. Under me I saw an abrasive whit light glowing and saw the x-rays rising up in the same direction I was going. I sat in a capsule that transported me to another dimension. The capsule was oval shaped and black from behind and the front side was transparent. I was travelling up. The capsule was going faster every movement. I established myself in an infinite glass-like dimension and I saw an endless numerous of capsules with other live-form creatures. They were also on a journey to the above realms. I knew I was also going to one of those places. I looked left, right, up and down, but I never saw an end point.
Suddenly at the point, that I could feel and know, I was almost there, I heard the reality screaming. She had giving me a call that brought me back to the daily reality we all know. I came aware of this reality. This event made my body feel really funny. I realized that I was coming back. I could notice my first feelings and thoughts. My thoughts were stumbling about what kind of pity it was that I was here, back in this body, in this reality. I wanted to go back. But at the same point I felt a happiness, peaceful and understanding emotion filled with love. I had a feeling of empathy and appreciation. I felt like embracing all the beautiful things in life. I never felt so good.

The 5-meo-AMT was still doing his job. This intoxication was just an accessory. Salvia Divinorum was the main subject of this occasion.

Like I said, I wanted to go back. We had more salvia extract, so the possibility was present. I decided to smoke more salvia extract (5x) in one hour and a half. Between the moments I got back and inhaling my second big dose of salvia, I was filled with excited feelings to go again to those places. I filled the time, between coming back and inhaling the second dose, with relaxing and thinking about the journey I just made and was going to make. In about an hour I prepared myself mentally. Growthspurt made the water-pipe ready to use. He put more salvia in the bowl then he did before (at my first oobe experience). I think it was a double dose of salvia, but I am not sure.

One and a half hour after my first experience I smoked it. The same thing happened (I was sucking up, I left my body, I saw myself and my friends getting smaller and there I was, surrounded by the same infinite universe (multiverse)) as the first experience, only now I saw no geometric patterns. It ‘felt’ like I didn’t had to see it, because I had seen them before and we needed all the time to go further then the first flight. With we I mean the united spirits of the God-like creatures/entities I have an encounter with.
In the first trip I also noticed this spirit, but I didn’t new what it was. I also felt lonely in the first trip, but that was just for a short duration. He knew that I was on my way, so he came as fast as he could to help me guiding to the above. He picked me up. At the point I didn’t felt any loneliness I knew something or someone helped me, but what/who was it. After this experience I knew it, because I had an encounter with them.
I also passed the same glass-like space, with the countless capsules rising up. We were going faster every movement, faster then the first time. ………………………………………………………………………. And finally, here I was. I met four God-like entities. They were non-material beings. They had a Greek emit. They were talking about me. I couldn’t understand there communication, but the content of this ‘conversation’ was clear. They were ‘speaking’ in a short frequent, the tone was high. They were talking about my feelings; they were interested in several emotions and the interactions between these emotions. These emotions were, love and hate, happiness and sadness, peace and anger. I didn’t panic when the ‘negative’ came by, because I knew they wanted to help me.

After their session was over they send me back to the daily reality. They let me take a seat in my body again. They send me back with a non-visible package I could feel all around me. It was existing of energy with a lot of refreshed emotions. The same emotions after the first experience with salvia, but they felt more completed. These emotions were lucid to face and handle. Again it felt weird how the reality was coming right at me, but it felt less strange then the first time.
The first thing I heard from my friends was that I laughed really hard and the saliva in my mouth was flowing out like a waterfall. I couldn’t remember this, but I think the reason of my saliva-behaviour was the sound that made the God-like entities. I remembered that it was really funny to hear and it made me feel really fuzzy in a humoristic way. Perhaps this sound made me laugh.

Later this night I smoked another big dose salvia, but it didn’t made me trip as the first 2 times. The reason of this was because I didn’t wait long enough.

This third miscarry didn’t destroyed my night, because I already had a wonderful journey, which pushed my life in another direction. This experience of ecstasy really changed my life. I saw another side of drug use, which was the reason I stopped with my alcohol abuse and other useless stuff. Now, I only use psychedelics but in a controlled manner. I am seeing things through brighter eyes, from a different perspective, with different eyes. My life is peaceful; I live in peace with myself. I am doing more with my interests. I aspire to my own revelation/elevation. I explored that there is a lot to explore, physically and mentally, my inner self and my outside environment (my world), here and there, now and in the past and future. I am excited to live and explore the magic of life, the metaphysics and transcendence aspects of life.
I love it.

I had this experience +/- 8 months ago, so I hope I have written this in an understandable way. I have written this experience with memories of this occasion, memories of my feelings, visions and thoughts that night, after and during these two journeys. I also asked my friends, who spend this night with me, about concrete things. The last sources of this written report are my thoughts about how I look back on that beautiful evening.
I liked writing this report, so I hope you red it with pleasure

Thank you for reading this report.

Continue with creating something positive.
 
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great report man !! :)

i haven't got anything to ask or add, was there when it all happened and also there when you wrote this, soo, yeah !! keep posting your reports !!

=D
 
hmmm, I disagree about the salvia being the main factor in this breakthrough experience, the 5-meo-amt had a lot to do with it. I`ve smoked salvia dozens of times, and anything truly spectacular(and fun) only happens when you`re on something else as well. I don`t like salvia on it`s own, it`s like having a friend that you like, but don`t like being alone with.

This is just my view on the experience. I don`t have anything to add, good evening, salvia really did it`s job, but i didn`t like the 5-meo-amt(I love AMT tho). I think I`ll look around for something to do along with salvia.

I wish one of my friends would buy some 2c-i before it became illegal tho, that would be great to try with salvia.
 
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I think that your view on this experience is pretty wrong.
First of all, that you never had a breakthrough on salvia doesn't mean I couldn't get one with salvia as main factor.
Second of all, everyone reacts different on drugs
Third of all, there are much much more people with a breakthrough on salvia.
Finally, I am the one who made this journey, not you. And I can decide for myself what I experienced and felt.


P.S.
Growthspurt, why do you always have to post negative things in my report?
 
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salvia is nothing man....
it just gets u overheated and kind of dizy.
u know..there is no point getting high from something u can get at the supermarket. its no fun.
taste like shit,and its not a HIGH. just some kiddie game.
if u wanna have drugs. then fucking go to a dealer or to some friends and ask for some coke,meth,e,lsd.....whatever.
yup, i recommend u to smoke some ice and have a nice high that makes the difference and for 6 hours...dont just roll up some spices and pretend ur having drugs.get real!
 
Awesome man!! Really good report :)

navarone: You have no idea man. I've had a a much more intens experience on salvia than any of the illegal drugs you mentioned. You are not doing it right, but seeing from your attitude maybe we should keep it that way. You probably couldn't handle it.
 
Splatt said:
Awesome man!! Really good report :)

Thanks.

Splatt said:
navarone: You have no idea man. I've had a a much more intens experience on salvia than any of the illegal drugs you mentioned. You are not doing it right, but seeing from your attitude maybe we should keep it that way. You probably couldn't handle it.

I agree with you on this one, Splatt
navarone doesn't know were he is talking about. And if you think salvia is nothing, buy some extract 15x or something and smoke 1/4 gram. I would not do this (only when I have more experience with salvia), but if you think salvia is nothing, smoke it and you will see it for yourself.
And coke and meth is nothing, nothing compared to psychedelics. I used coke and meth, but after this salvia experience I quit with it, you know why: It is boring, you can't learn from that stuff (except in therapy) etc etc. And LSD I don't know how that is, but after today I will know. I have more experience with mushrooms, LSA, salvia, 5-meoDMT, DPT and some other plants and chemicals. This will give me enough experience with drugs to decide what works for me and what doesn't. And this journey on salvia was my intensest experience ever.
I'm not trying to be arrogant, but your whole post is one big wrong joke, it doesn't make any sense.

I hope I didn't make you mad, but I had to say this because what you said is (in my opinion and a lot others) totally wrong. It is a fact that salvia can bring you to other invisible realms ----> Read some books;)

Have a nice christmas. 8) =D ;)
 
what`s so negative about it?must just be my aggressive writing style, it`s never meant to be aggressive, it just comes out that way.

And I really think it was the 5-meo-amt, all of us that had done salvia, and extract before, and after this experience have never experienced such a high from it again. And in this evening every time anyone would smoke salvia they would get extreme effects.

so normally we don`t get THIS HEAVY effects from salvia, but on 5-meo-amt we ALL did, hmmm, sounds like 5-meo-amt had something to do with it. I`m surprised you didn`t notice that
 
and oh yeah, I thought I had used meth too, but the "meth" we get here is amphetamine sulphate, so I would be very surprised if you actually did meth once.

And if it sounds negative again, I`m sorry for telling you the truth about the meth... If I sound negative, too bad, don`t whine about it(<----negativity again right??), write something that makes me think otherwise. I think by trying the same thing over and over with the same results(just telling me I`m negative) and expecting a different outcome is weird. Try it like I suggested above. I`ve been dying for some intelligent/heated discussion anyway.
 
GrOwThSpUrT said:
and oh yeah, I thought I had used meth too, but the "meth" we get here is amphetamine sulphate, so I would be very surprised if you actually did meth once.

Thanks for correcting me, because I hadn't seen that one. And correcting is good because I can learn from it.

GrOwThSpUrT said:
And I really think it was the 5-meo-amt, all of us that had done salvia, and extract before, and after this experience have never experienced such a high from it again. And in this evening every time anyone would smoke salvia they would get extreme effects.

so normally we don`t get THIS HEAVY effects from salvia, but on 5-meo-amt we ALL did, hmmm, sounds like 5-meo-amt had something to do with it. I`m surprised you didn`t notice that

And you are still wrong, everyone reacts different on drugs and we all used salvia under the influence of amt or 5meoamt, so it doesn't mean that 5meoamt plaid a (main) role in this cause
 
ok, we all had similar EXTREME effects, that had never happened to any of us before, or after this experience, not on JUST SALVIA at least.

Everyone that had done the 5-meo-amt had similar effects from the salvia, and it never ever happens again??? I`m telling you the 5-meo-amt potentiated the effects, but believe what you want. I`m not going to be able to convince you.

It`s like drinking a shitload and smoking a J, you get a lot more high, and if you smoke a J then next day, it`s normal again. Are you gonna tell me it`s just the weed too?
 
no but this are both different drugs and I experienced it my own way and ofcourse amt could play a role, but not the role you mentioned in the first posts. And like I said everybody react diferent on drugs so why do still tell me what you and the others experienced. What you and the other experienced doesn't say anything because we are now talking about my experience.
 
^^^
Hey Libido, how was that LSD? :D

"I`m sorry for telling you the truth about the meth... " - GrOwThSpUrT

Methamphetamine is one of the few drugs with no redeeming qualities. The high sucks but people would rather stay high than experience the crash-from-hell. At least if you stay up for a week on meth its easy to crash when you're done. Tweakers fall into the path of addiction and self-destruction much more frequently than users of any other drug. The addiction recovery rate is depressingly low because it is so powerful, it tricks its users into thinking they aren't really addicted, and its so cheap and easily available. It turns nice young girls into zit-faced anorexic freaks. Even Hitler stopped giving his troops meth when they started turning against each other.

I just found out the other day one of my ex-girlfriends was spotted in town, having lost lots of weight, with zits on her face (she never had acne), and she had LOTS of nervous energy. Poor girl.

Please don't recommend this drug as a "better high" than any of the healing and teaching psychedelics.
 
I would never recommend meth over anything psychedelic.
I just took up the habit of apologizing for everything I`m about to say, it seems that people think I write too aggressively(I`ll try to work on it, you try to deal with it).

you`re right though, I did not acknowledge the role the salvia played, for me it was really the 5-meo-amt that did it though. Salvia never really did anything for me like I said before, so this was completely new to me, and in my mind linked with 5-meo-amt being the important factor.

And everything I ever write about personal things is from personal experiences, so yeah, a lot of ppl will disagree. But I try to give out as much good/correct info as possible.

And in this context, the other people`s experiences definitely do matter, the thread IS about your experience, but who`s to say I can`t share MY experience in this thread? I don`t feel the need to create an entirely new thread about the same evening...

And not only was I apologizing because of my writing style(is it really that aggressive??) on the meth thing, but I know that some people like to THINK they have experienced all these different kinds of drugs, and when you tell them it was something different, they freak out. I`ve seen it a lot of times here on BL.

I`m going to quit this rant, and have only one thing to add: a merry x-mas(a little late, I know) and a happy new-year to all.
 
I'm going to take my sleep in aminutes, so I'll keep it short.
Thanks growthspurt, this was the mail I was hoping for, now I can agree with you.
Let's forget this and talk about other, more important, 'things', I can't say you about what kind of things at the moment, because I am pritty stoned.
Sleep wel and have a nice dream
 
GrOwThSpUrT said:
ey, my bad, - I don`t mind admitting to my mistakes/flaws, - I`m only human right?

So am I - so do I - And so am I

I am glad we come to this 'conclusion'. :D
 
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