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Salvia Divinorum 15X - First time - Revelations came continuously, one after another

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Dosing:

* Dose: Smoked several hits of Salvia 15X extract. Subjectively, this made for a "medium" trip

* Setting: M's garage and living room, mid afternoon. For a time, Disney Channel was playing, which may accout for the cynical nature of some of my trip thoughts...:p

* set: Expected delirium, dissociation, and hallucinations

Timing:

* Onset: 5-10 minutes to peak

* Peak: 5 minutes

* Plateau: 15 minutes

* After-effects trailing off for about an hour

Salient effects:

* Somatosensory: Walking felt automated--I decided to walk somewhere, and my legs just carried me while emitting this funny greenish feeling. If I sat and focused, my perception of myself got uncomfortably confused at times, and I felt like parts of my body were accelerating in random directions, similar to marijuana's somatosensory effects

* Spatial perception: In my mind (this was not a 'hallucination' of the normal kind) I noticed a giant 3 dimensional curve running through the garage, intersecting my body. I was stuck and flattened onto this curve. After the peak ended, the universe slowly returned to its normal spatial profile. I feel that repeating the experience with a larger dose will allow me to enter and navigate a purely mathematical universe

* Thoughts: During the peaks, my mind was in a complete trance-like state, with the perceptual effects of the drug being the only contents of my mind. For the other parts of the trip, I was exceptionally lucid. I felt (and continue to believe) that my perception was "lifted". My thoughts ran through both philosophical/scientific "large" topics and also through autobiographical "issues," with a profoundly stable perception. "Revelations" came continuously, one after another, in this lucid state, and for over an hour afterward my mind was "accelerated" with streaming interesting thoughts. The main theme of my thoughts is detailed in the "investment return" section

* It met my benchmark for a "trip": I felt like I was "home," in that simple, universal backround-space which reminds me of how my mind was before I filled it with behavioral routines and sense data. Reality felt more real, and everything about our normal perception of reality appeared more fake. [edit: P.S.]On Salvia "I feel like I've been where it's trying to take me before but forgotten" (read this in the Big and Dandy Salvia thread and quoted it here because it applies to my trip too)

Other effects:

* Visually, Salvia displayed some fascinating pattern-scenes when my eyes were closed. Open, patterning could also develop if I let it (eg, rivers of color running between the holes in the ceiling). The visuals were mild and dim

* While no euphoria was present, no negative effects except the usual discomfort from the intensity of the experience

Investment return:

* Certain themes were continuously elaborated on during the plateau and after-effects. Some of the themes were:

* Our normal perception is synthesized by our brain, and is influenced by many non-objective factors. There's no real reason to think we are much more than rats following behavioral routines and experiencing packaged sense data

* We go through life ensuring a pleasurable time in the near future. We keep ourselves busy, distracted. We like the thought of "soon, finally i'll be able to just sit back and be happy for a while" but it's always "soon" this will come. A while later, still, "soon" it'll happen. Of course, psychedelic users, hedonists, addicts, etc, have this handy tidbit of information

Remarks:

* A true entheogen, worth trying again for a "high" dose trip in my usual trip setting (room at night) (edit: which I certainly did. link)

* My expectations of a delirium/hallucination inducing foggy dissociative state were completely incorrect. The effects were very similar to marijuana, which also acts as a strong entheogen for me, but with more mental clarity, more mental stimulation, and more 'sharp' or 'geometric' (though not more intense) somatosensory effects than marijuana. To be honest, this is what I've always expected LSD to be like, without the visuals

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i really dig how thorough and insightful your trip reports are. i've only done salvia once, and the effects were very minimal, as i did it improperly. i've got my hands on some again, and stumbled upon your post while trying to understand it's effects. thank you for sharing your experience. (=
 
Great report, very thorough.
I'm not sure if you broke through yet, because you seem to compare it strongly to marijuana, which is what it feels like (a strong "stoned" feeling, at least for me), at a low dose (or just by not keeping it in long enough), as well as after the first 15-20 minutes of a strong trip, after the main effects start to fade away.

Salvia is a good drug in my opinion, a great entheogenic (but not as clear-headed as LSD), but it's a huge mindfuck, nothing seems to be able to prepare you for it no matter how many times you've done it before, you just get raped everytime.
I always just feel this strange undescribable 'presence' everytime I do it, and it seems like each trip continues itself (like one big story, with no actual scenario) everytime. For me it's just crazy Lego land mania.

Next time, try a higher dose, I definitely think your expectations of a "delirium/hallucination inducing foggy dissociative state" will be met. Then again, maybe not. YMMV.
 
Wow. Just re-found this thread.

As a salvia-curious myself, held back by the fear of the mere potential of the drug, and my questions as to how accessible this plant is, I gotta say, your post was professionally written it seems. very well read. I've been reading these posts for a month now, the majority of them inspiring, this one included. I especially like your Investment Return section, * We go through life ensuring a pleasurable time in the near future. We keep ourselves busy, distracted. We like the thought of "soon, finally i'll be able to just sit back and be happy for a while" but it's always "soon" this will come. A while later, still, "soon" it'll happen. Of course, psychedelic users, hedonists, addicts, etc, have this handy tidbit of information
This picture painted itself in my mind, right now high on cannabis, I want to explore the all-unique perspective this drug can unfold.
Thanks for your input, makes these boards worth looking into. I won't even begin to know what the experienced user speaks of in his post until I do it, but entertaining ntl.
 
thanks

everyStar there is actually a link in the trip report to my second time. i broke through my second and third time (haven't done it since, though I will again sometime). i don't feel that i properly explained either break-through, but i did my best
 
Why would someone want to try this if there was LSD, mushrooms, MDMA or alcohol around? (Maybe 'cause it doesn't last as long.)
 
I'm also about to do Salvia for the first time. I'm introduced to Psychedelics and want a great trip. You said 15x was medeocure for you. Should I go to 15x?
 
^it was a medium trip the first time i did it

the second and third time i did it, i QUITE broke through

@goddess, because it's a unique and amazing drug
 
A friend's friend had siezures on salvia. (I'm pretty sure he said it was salvia.)

I like to smoke too (tobacco, pot, hash (not crack) and would like to try a little at first to test it out. Is it still legal?
 
yes it's still legal. unless it recently became illegalized and nobody posted about it in DITM...
 
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