Salvia compareable to shrooms?

[ectolysergic]

a cube is a cube and i honestly dislike the pf tek method. you will be much happier with your results by spawning to bulk substrates. i used coco coir my first time along side some pf cakes and was much much happier with my coir babies. pf yields a lot of smaller guys. bulks give you lots of very gorgeous monsters

oysters are tasty and i agree that if you believe oyster mushrooms to be psychoactive you have a lot of fungus research to conduct before attempting an endeavor like cultivation. read up at the shroomery.

and as to the original q, salvia and p.cubensis are not even remotely similar.

 

[dread]

Most people move on to grain spawn and bulk substrates when they get more experience, but PF tek is still the ideal tek for beginners for learning the basics about growing.

 

[ectolysergic]

it's really not that much more advanced of a technique though so long as you have a pressure cooker. i also find pcing rye easier than grinding up a rice/verm mixture. there's just so much more versatility for so little extra in methodology. you also get to heavily influence growth by preparing your own substrate mixture loaded with good stuff for these guys

 

[dread]

Yeah well, most beginners don't have a pressure cooker, which kinda limits the use of grain substrates. AFAIK the only grain you can sterilize without a pressure cooker is rice.

But I agree, grain is the best and most versatile method. If you know what you're doing that is. Most beginners also have a difficult time getting the moisture content right when preparing grains. Although it's a simple thing once you get the hang of it.

 

[Solipsis]

They are not alike except the total spaced out delirious fairytale stuff - somehow I would class them in the same direction and type, but that's only usefull for comparisons. If you do not know both of them I think it's plain wrong to expect anything similar because they both have an extremely deep and complex and intense character but they are completely seperate and they work in their own way.
I can understand the analogies in retrospect of having experienced both seperately, and that certainly is interesting but be very careful with your expectations! I find that phens have common territory, as do tryps... and it can be explained chemically. But Salvia and mushrooms at the same time have their entirely own realm, only some basic qualities can be laid next to each other...

 

[jamaica0535]

Nothing alike.....

salvia is interesting, not something fun unless you enjoy having reality obliterated in a matter of seconds to be reformed into something far more... bizzare...

 

[treezy z]

no, not at all. completely different.

i love plain leaf salvia, euphoric and in touch with nature.
extracts of salvia feel psychotic or delerious. salvia acts on the k opiod receptor and is unlike any other psychedelic.

mushrooms are a more typical psychedelic, acting on 5ht2a receptor. it is much less likely to be scary and more likely to be enjoyable.

it's really pretty much impossible to describe the effects of either, other than that they are totally different.

 

[Solipsis]

Bighooter I remember your post about trying acid as well. Seriously, dose gently whenever you decide to try mushrooms. It should be fine, really but there are enough people that are sensitive to them - combine that with the fact that they are natural products with an unknown amount of active substances in em, that has to teach you to treat it with care, respect and even a little apprehension.

Apart from that, don't let your judgment be muddled by the existance of Salvia because that will only needlessly complicate things in a way that has no use at all.
Read up on mushrooms and make the decision yourself. I'm gonna put an end to this thread because it doesn't really serve that good a purpose and in this timefrime the advice is to just get informed about psilocybin mushrooms as much as you can. Visit the Big & Dandy Mushroom Thread please

Hopefully you will have wonderful experiences in the future