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Salvia 20x - First Trip - Did I do something wrong?

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I say its my first trip but in fact it's my 2nd attempt with Salvia. The first time I didnt feel anything so tonight I decided to do everything by the book.

I had 20x extract so I began by researching suggested dosages for that potency. I got the extract from a headshop wich has a very good reputation.

I loaded about 300mg of the extract in a water bong and used a high temps torch to light it. I took it all at once and held it as long as I could.

When I was about to turn blue I exhaled slowly. After a few seconds I began to feel something. It was like I was hit by waves of electricity that would go trough my body. The feeling was not too different from the tingling you get on nitrous but it was much more powerful, almost being uncomfortable. I decided to close my eyes and I saw mild light patterns. The patterns were not being visible with my eyes open but it was nothing impressive at all and it was very dim.

All this lasted for a few mins. I was pretty dissapointed. I expected to be lauched into hyperspace or an alien world. What do you guys suggest I do for my next attempt?


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Sometimes I wonder if it's possible to be really high on salvia but not realising it since it is not a drugged state in the classical way...the reverse tolerance phenomenon would be the mind being more and more able to catch the salvia state of consciousness needing less and less material. I'd say try again at the same dosage. If you've not a particular body chemistry, 300mg of 20X should do the trick.
 
dude my friend acts the same way. he cant feel salvia....we all smoked a gram of 5x over like an hour or 2 me and 2 of my other friends were all giglly(only 5x so we aint trippin haha) then i was like well i want to trip so lets get 10x. smoked that alone with my friend who cant feel it(so he could trip sit me) and i tripped hard for 1-2 mins. i let him try it then and he didnt feel anything lmao
 
lysergication said:
Sometimes I wonder if it's possible to be really high on salvia but not realising it since it is not a drugged state in the classical way...the reverse tolerance phenomenon would be the mind being more and more able to catch the salvia state of consciousness needing less and less material. I'd say try again at the same dosage. If you've not a particular body chemistry, 300mg of 20X should do the trick.
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Took the words out of my fingers.
 
salvia has reserve tolernce, it gets stronger everytime you smoke it first few times i smoked it i didnt really do much just laughed alot and stuff and then maybe after the 4th time it started getting really intense going into different worlds and shit. I dont smoke it anymore
 
Wrong

wrong, wrong wrong wrong ALL WRONG! The effectiveness of Salvia Divinorum also depends upon the heights and lows of your bodily chemistries and vitamins, and serotonin levels. If it didnt work that day, try another day, dont just smoke more and more, itll be a waste. A personal experience i had with 20x and somethign you should never do, is i took and put a nice big pile in an old 5-foot waterpipe thats long since broke(sniff*) and alone in my house, on myu couch watching tv, hit it, cleared it, and held it for 30 seconds and as i blew it out, imagine if you will, a spiral staircase of images in your mind, thousands of them, playing over and over again of the same moment, for what felt like forever(roughly 15 minutes) il never touch it again. But like i said, it has a-lot to do with whats going on in your body. =D another post from the Techno Taco
 
Really it has a lot to do with what's going on in your body? Doesn't Salvia hit Kappa opiate receptors not seratonin and DA?

But yeah, I do think you usually need a few tries before you get a proper "trip" (if you can call that a trip) from Salvia. Might be your own body chemistry, although everyone I know who has tried eventually broke through.
 
The first few times i tried salvia i smoked 20x and got a weird high but it definatly wasn't the super intense salvia mindfuck ive heard about. Now, a few weeks ago me and my friends picked up some 13x (weird number i know) salvia. I took one HUGE rip and held it in for around 10 seconds. A few seconds after exhaling i was tripping my fucking face off. I think salvia is just a really hit-or-miss drug. You shouldn't give up because it did not work the first few times. And trust me, when you do get that legendary salvia trip you will DEFINATLY know.
 
I think some of it might have to do with certain brands as well. You said it was reputable though so IDK. The brand I prefer I can get off pretty well with 5x, a small pipe and a bic lighter. Never weighed a dose but I can have a nice trip off of one big hit with this method.
 
Salvia is the craziest trip i have ever had, We got 40x srength thinking it was legal so we need the strongest they had. Burnt it in a bong with a butane lighter as the instructions said and man as soon as i took a hit on it i was tripping out, it made my body feel lik a cactus followed by uncontrolabe laughter that i couldnt stop, a sort of uncomfortable laughter tho. Crazy shit, never done it again, trip lasted about 10 mins, peace
 
i don't react to salvia much, it just makes me laugh loads like i'm on nitrous, so trying upping the extract not the dosage, maybe to 30 or 40x
 
Your stuff sounds like its low quality. The one time I tripped on salvia I took about 250mg in a roor and about 15 seconds later i was having a complete out of body experience, waaay waaay too intense for me.

I didnt buy the stuff, my friends did, but I think they said it was like 40 bucks for a little plastic bottle full prolly like 2 grams, im not sure but I think I remember it being 50x. It seems you get what you pay for.
 
Smoke more, or if you want to REALLY do it right I'd say to try 40x out of a gallon jug gravity bong. I've done whole leaves of Salvia (10 years ago, the girl called it "Superfly" lol) and I've also done 40x out of an old metal bowl. Salvia is like...kinda cool but kinda lame. I enjoyed the 40x because I do like hallucinogens but it's nice to trip for only like 15 minutes. My personal experience is that salvia is like shrooms as far as tolerance is concerned, if I did it back to back days I would do at least twice as much on the second day and wouldn't expect the same high. I'd actually wait at least a week between sessions.
 
I took 20x salvia and every time, no matter how much I put into the bong I would trip balls and go into another dimension, so would any one of my friends.

Sounds to me like you got some bunk ass salvia...unless there's a better explanation.
 
Technically speaking, that dose of salvinorin should have you travelling the multverse with an entourage of bat-people as friends.

Either a low potency extract or natural tolerance....And I don't buy into the natural tolerance thing personally; so the fomer.
 
My experiences have been with 10x, in very small quantities for what it's worth, but I've found it quite strong...just not pleasant. A minute or two of intense dizziness requiring a lay-down on the floor until it passed. Like several others here have concluded, it is not for me.
 
lysergication said:
Sometimes I wonder if it's possible to be really high on salvia but not realising it since it is not a drugged state in the classical way.
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The first time I used Salvia successfully, I took a massive hit on my water bong, then as I exhaled, I was wondering if I should havenother hit as it didn't seem to be working. Then a penguin started talking to me, I told him I was going to have another hit, he told me that was a bad idea. He then explained to me that I was tripping balls. I was talking to a penguin without actually talking. I was in another world but my brain still thought it was in the real world.

The "high" really isn't the same as most drugs. I wouldn't class Salvia as recreational. It's not a "fun" drug, but it does open your mind and is good as a therapeutic tool, helping you see problems in your life in a new light. Salvia has helped me on many occasions but I wouldn't use it in social situations.
 
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