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Salvia 20x Extract - First Time - Giant Yellow Zipper of Reality

I guess we got to level 5 on the trip scale. I felt the same, and I also remember it was as if something was showing me something in slow motion so I would understand it. My soul was bounceing off everything I looked at and everything was connected to me in some way.
 
--Majunior said:
I've also never heard of anyone ever breaking through their first time.

I'm not sure why you don't believe him. The first time that I smoked Salvia was in a well-lit room and contrary to what you say the very first time sent me into another dimension! I for one believe SmokeDro because the comparison with the zipper is Exactly the sort of totally absurd reality that Salvia can create, the feeling of the body being fractured and completely unspeakable epiphanies beyond language. I described my experience as being cut in half with my brain revolving on a conveyeur belt.

I mean come on: A zipper! Who could make that up.
 
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nicnicnic said:
I'm not sure why you don't believe him. The first time that I smoked Salvia was in a well-lit room and contrary to what you say the very first time sent me into another dimension! I for one believe SmokeDro because the comparison with the zipper is Exactly the sort of totally absurd reality that Salvia can create, the feeling of the body being fractured and completely unspeakable epiphanies beyond language. I described my experience as being cut in half with my brain revolving on a conveyeur belt.

I mean come on: A zipper! Who could make that up.

Heh, you got the right idea man, and it was definitly a giant yellow zipper that was bringing me back into reality.

Oh I just found out from my buddy B, the ending part of my trip when I was running and jumping in the alley...well it actually happened and i was running around for a while before i sat back down right where I toked and snapped back to reality :S
 
--Majunior said:
so I do suggest you keep your mouth shut.

pls pm him with this sort of crude comment

I (and surely some other people) do not like this type of fairly obvious aggression. please keep YOUR mouth shut if all you can do is pick on people. thank you.
 
it may well be unwise to smoke salvia in a back alley but nothing will keep you from brealing thru. dunno what the doubter is on about. i broke thru in a guesthouse in amsterdam with the tv on and the streetside window open. i would also have desired a different setting but it was a little late for that. so what, i still broke through. i now choose my circumstances more carefull.y
 
Hessel said:
Whats the coolest part of this whole thing is that you can have 20 or so of those crazy experiances a night. Start to learn the rules of a different reality.


Thats a very interesting way to look at it, I can imagine how enlightening it would be to smoke salvia several times a night to learn the 'rules', but perhaps there are no rules, and this drug simply opens all the doors in your mind, making anything possible.
 
I just use a regular bic lighter and a cheap glass pipe, and i experienced effects the first time i smoked the stuff,(my only experiences being on 10x standardized, never tried the unfortified leaves or weaker extracts) but i didnt break through, which is level 5 or 6, until i really wanted to. A bic lighter/cheap pipe works fine for me, just keep the flame on the material, even if the plant material is all burned, and hold your hit in for about 20-30 seconds. works everytime for me.

If i want to, i can take 1 big hit of the 10x and have a level 6, total ego-loss/blackout experience. I did last night actually, but i passed out "normally" during the experience, as i was also on 12 mg klonopin, and didn't even remember smoking salvia until i woke up this morning. I either have a really good extract, or im just fairly sensitive to the stuff.

Setting IS important, it's preferable for me to have no light, but music sounds really interesting on salvia at level 3-4 experiences, so i always keep some light ambient music on,(Aphex Twin-Stone in Focus comes to mind for Salvia) but i've broken through in broad daylight when i wasnt even trying to break through, so this report, at least imo, DEFINATELY isn't bullshit. Salvia is some strong stuff.

The first few times i smoked it, i did feel a female pressence, but lately, it's been more of what i see as random strange entities, and i've seen something similar to the "smelves" that get mentioned so much on the lycaeum forums, working in some sort of factory filled with gears and other equipment.

It's hard to talk about salvia without rambling, because theres just so much to try and explain. On 1 level 4 experience, which didnt completely obliterate my ego, but gave me very intense visuals, i was in my room with the lights off, and these white balls of energy were coming towards me off of my bed, and i swear i could feel each and every one of them being absorbed into my body. I even felt surges of energy and a "punching" sensation as each "ball" hit me. Usually salvia takes some energy away from me, but this experience seemed to force energy IN me, and i felt very stimulated after that particular experience. Odd and interesting stuff, salvia is.

I also agree with Leg to NOT get stoned before attempting to break through, as when im even a little high off weed, the smallest toke of 10x will black me out, unpleasantly.

Also, Church, if you ever wanna try salvia again, buy some weaker stuff than you smoked before, as i find level 3-4 experiences to actually be quite pleasurable. My ego is still there, i remember smoking the stuff, i'm just REALLY high for about 20 minutes, and getting very odd visuals for about 10. Music i find nescessary, but try to keep it low volume. At sub-blackout levels, i just find myself extremely stoney, sorta like a nang, lasts alot longer, and i just laugh maniacially for no reason whatsoever.

El fin ramble, and good report.
 
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All blatant insults and flames have been snipped. Please guys, keep the flames out of TR! Keep your nasty burns to yourself, or send a good 'ol PM.
 
"Ive got some 15x extract but no bong do you think i still be able to get a big enough hit in those crap cheap pipes?"

Depends how big the bowl is. If you can get enough in and you use a torch then you should be fine although i don't have THAT much experience with salvia.
 
Hessel said:
Whats the coolest part of this whole thing is that you can have 20 or so of those crazy experiances a night. Start to learn the rules of a different reality.

Having done salvia that comment seems really fucking valid. =D

Whenever I've done salvia I've really wanted to stay in that reality instead (mainly afterwards/when it's wearing off). You really get a sense that it's real and there permanantly in my experience.
 
--Majunior said:
You also say that you broke through your first time using 20x extract from a headshop. I hate to tell you but that crap they sell in the boxes in the little bottles at headshops is bunk. I've tried it, many of my friends have tried it and yielded no results. I've also never heard of anyone ever breaking through their first time. It took my friend and I a slow buildup over about a month or two just to get to a breakthrough. It takes time to perfect your smoking technique.

I broke through on my first time using standard salvia leaf from a headshop. I've also used the extracts which worked very well. I'm also sure that anyone who's smoked cannabis in buckets or bongs in the past could also work out how to stitch themselves with salvia.

--Majunior said:
You also say that you did it in an alley in the middle of the day. That doesn't sound right. In order to get the desired effects your mind needs to be sensory deprived. This means no light and no sound. On the several occasions my friends and I were kept from breaking through by the simplest sound or light. Even a small LED light under a table in my friends room kept me from my journey.

Sorry but I've also broke through in daylight. Do enough and smoke it properly and you'll break through. Not everything resides so closely to the text book descriptions. ;)
 
Leg said:
dude don't get stoned before you smoke sally
that's why you're blacking out
you'd learn a lot more from it if you were sober

it's not a "fun drug" at ALL
i've never really found any "fun" qualities of it
it's like...a drug a lot more hardcore (although much shorter duration) than LSD or LSA or shrooms...

and NO it shouldn't be illegal!!! wtf
no drug should be illegal
it's all rediculous
just cause you couldn't handle it...
well, for me...
i smoke salvia nowadays when i need to get BACK to reality
the salvia helps me out
you're just thinking about it the wrong way, man

but then again
i don't ever want to LEAVE reality
reality is awesome :) much better than anything my mind can come up with

I def agree.....

The first time i tried Salvia, it was very intense.....And the reason it was so intense cuz it brought down every and all defense mechanisms in my mind and i felt i saw the world for what iut really was....I saw my life for what it really was.....I saw my then current situation for what it was......And i freaked out b/c the "TRUTH" came to me like someone loaded the universe into a cannon and shot me in the head....

It was almost too much for me to handle......I felt like Neo in the MAtrix when he ate the red pill and saw the "real world" for what it really was....

But on the bright side, it helped me decipher alot of my probs at the time.....it gave me a brand new perspective on everything....

It was amazing......And the crazy thing was that it lasted for hours!!! The mindset at least, and the trip obviously decreased in intensity over time...

And this was only the 5x extract.....I think being a lil high and drunk had alot to do w/ the extended experince.....Personally cannibus intensifies all drugs for me 10 fold....

Im a bit weary to try the 10x and the 20x is out of the question.....when i bought the slavia at a headshop, i saw 30x.....Whoever tries or has tried that is fucking insane.....I dont know if i could handle that....

BTW....I felt a female entity during my trip......I guess it depends on who u are.....on what u feel but for me it was def a kind female presence....

My main point is, SALVIA IS THE RED PILL
 
I'd say 40x bought online would be pretty intense, never mind 5x.

I've never fully broke through on salvia before, i've had standard leaf, 10x and 15x, i've had some wierd effects anyway and don't know what to make of salvia just yet.

I'll break through whenever i do it right, the last time i never kept it held in long enough and i done it outside, next time i'm going to smoke some 20x in the dark late at night alone in my room, that should get it working. Oh yea i'll remember to use a flameless lighter too, the active ingredient in salvia has to be burnt at a very large temperature.
 
Just keep whatever lighter u use on the slavia the entire time u are taking a toke....
 
I found it to taste really disguisting and i ended up coughing alot of the smoke out, this was whenever i had just started smoking stuff, i think i'll try salvia again in a couple of months, i'll make sure i trip off it because i've known friends who've smoked the same stash as me and tripped our majorily...enough to sell the remaining bit of his salvia, he never wanted to go near the stuff again after he smoked it.
 
That sounds wicked man, you make me wanna have my very own salvia trip now. Though I have tried it before, my friends werent quite as keen as me in having an 'experience' - great report. I think I'll giver another shot.
 
throwitallaway said:
I found it to taste really disguisting and i ended up coughing alot of the smoke out, this was whenever i had just started smoking stuff, i think i'll try salvia again in a couple of months, i'll make sure i trip off it because i've known friends who've smoked the same stash as me and tripped our majorily...enough to sell the remaining bit of his salvia, he never wanted to go near the stuff again after he smoked it.

Yea thats prob the reason u didnt feel anything.....

I think the 2 main things u need to worry about to have a sucessful trip is......

1) Keep the lighter on the entire time.....Slavia's active components need to get to very high temps to become active

2) Hold the smoke for as long as possible.....I have to hold it in for a full 15-20 sec b4 i feel any effects....IF i let out too soon, i wont feel that much of anything
 
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