Salvia - 1st time - unimpressed

[motorcyclist]

After reading some really cool Salvia trip reports, we decided to give it a shot. I ordered a "sampler pack" online which constisted of raw leaves, and packets of 5x, 10x, 15x, and 20x. Following the directions I had read on various websites, we purchased a water pipe and a butane "torch" lighter. My wife and I decided that I would try it first and she would be the sitter, then she would try it. We also decided that I would try the 10x, while she would try the 5x.

So I start out sitting on the bed and took 2 big hits of the 10x, then laid back. After a few minutes, I felt nothing. I sat up and took another big hit. Minutes go by and nothing.

So my wife tries... 2 big hits of the 5x. Within minutes she is laying on the bed laughing hysterically. When she came out of it, she described walking on a yellow sidewalk that was floating on the breeze like a ribbon- and like a ribbon on the breeze, it was twisting and turning while she walked it. Pretty cool,... But the total length of her buzz was 3 minutes :-(

So... I'm gonna go for the 20x. I take 2 big hits of the 20x and before I could lay back on the bed, I felt "something". I heard this soft female voice echoing in my head saying "you just need to relax and go with it" (I thought the voice was my wife, but she later confirmed that she had said nothing at all). The voice echoed thru my head, and as it did I was feeling that I was SITTING up in the bed (when I came out, I fully expected to be sitting up in bed since that is what I felt, but I was laying flat, and my wife confirmed that I had been laying down the entire time) with a very soft pressure pushing on my body from all sides- it wasn't uncomfortable at all, it fact it was so light that it felt good, and I thought "ah, this is it"... The voice echoing in my head became a sort of visual glitter which slowly rested on me. But very soon the feeling went away and I came to. Total time- 3 minutes :-( Not very impressive at all.

So my wife tries the 10x... This time she has the feeling that the left side of her body is being pulled, and a voice on the left saying "You can come here, you can come here", while the right side of her body was held stationary and a voice on the left saying "you can't come, you can't come"... This lasted 2 minutes and she came out of it... Kinda cool, but 2 minutes sure isn't much to thrill us.

I decide to try one last time- hoping to recreate that feeling I had before. So I loaded up the last of the 20x, took 2 big hits, and nothing at all happened :-(

My wife then loaded up the last of the 10x, and nothing at all happened. Obviously this is something you can not take repeatedly.

We'll try again, but the next time I'm going to try something more potent than 20x.

Afterwards, we went to bed... I had a terrible nights sleep- it was the same type of restless "mind won't turn off" sleep I have after a night of rolling on X. My wife slept just fine.

 

[Kerrigan]

It's not about potency, and it's not about the dose. It's about whether you're ready or not. Unfortunately, you two seem to be looking only to see pretty pictures. You can do that at a cinema, or even simpler, buy an easel, some canvas, paint, and a brush. 8(

 

[motorcyclist]

It's not about potency, and it's not about the dose. It's about whether you're ready or not. Unfortunately, you two seem to be looking only to see pretty pictures. You can do that at a cinema, or even simpler, buy an easel, some canvas, paint, and a brush. 8(

I would tell you you're wrong... We are 40, and meditate regularly- my wife meditates daily, I'm more of a couple times a week meditation. Our drug use is more of a spiritual thing than recreational.

But yeah... pretty pictures would've been fun too.

 

[Psilo707]

Salvia is the most erratic and unpredictable drug in existence in regards to how it affects various people, imo. There are so many people that are semi-resistant to it's true psychedelic effects and require a LOT higher of a dose to breakthrough than others might. And ive known some people which can smoke any huge amount of high potency extract and still never break through. It's a very mysterious drug and its definitely not out of the ordinary to not feel too much, especially the first few times. Try a higher extract and higher dose next time and it could possibly be a fully different experience for you.

 

[IAMTHOUGHTS]

i tried the 5x and got nothing out of it. so i smoked the whole gram.
then bought a gram of 21X and smoked it from a "steam roller".
the first time i tried the 21X it was verry intense.
i suggest smoking out of somthing different, and make sure it burns your throught and lungs, if you dont feel it by the time you blow out your hit take anouther huge one and im sure you will get overwhelmed while holding in the 2nd hit

^^make one of these using a paper towel tube and a bowl piece
you will get a huge hit that burns all the way down.
i cant see you not having better results..

i try to take little hits because this shit still kinda scares me, its like when i was a little kid going on the "BIG" rollercoaster, and the whole time you just cry and scream "make it stop"

 

[Astavats]

i suggest smoking out of somthing different, and make sure it burns your throught and lungs, if you dont feel it by the time you blow out your hit take anouther huge one and im sure you will get overwhelmed while holding in the 2nd hit

I completely disagree...the pain isn't a factor in a Salvia D trip. I smoke out of a bong, goes down easy, and cool end up with a nice/heavy trip.

 

[IAMTHOUGHTS]

well im not saying the pain contributes to the strength of the trip, i just mean if it burns like a sunofabitch then you KNOW you got alot of smoke. with a water pipe you may or may not be getting a "huge" hit because it is less harsh even when it is alot of smoke. its just a better way to gauge the amount of smoke you inhaled. even just using a translucent bong can help you gauge your hit.
but i wouldnt smoke salvia out of a little bowl or pipe and expect the same results as a bong or steam roller

know what i mean?

you can still dissagree if you like though, to each his own.. i like the burn :D


i took a little hit out of a "cigerette looking" one hitter last night, and had that weird strangness start to rise up inside me. it reminded me that I was not in the mood for freakout land.
i still cant decide if i like salvia. i always wnat to do it, and then when i do its like:

"why did i just get back on the same rollercoaster that i wanted offf of last time?"

IF ONE HIT IS NOT MAKING YOU BREAK THROUGH you should take another even if you feel the effects coming on. that way your holding the 2nd hit while the first one is hitting you and by the time you blow out the 2nd hit the intensity will just keep ramping up.
i mean take as many big hits as you can one after another even if your starting to feel it.
take hits untill you are incapable... it will get you, dont worry

 

[not_broken_420]

This reminds me of something funny..last weekend I was at a party, and my friend said he's smoked tons of salvia and it never affected him at all. I had done it earlier that day, and one hit of 15x had sent me out of this world. He wanted to prove that it wouldn't do anything, so he took 2 or 3 big hits...10 seconds later he was sitting there going "Oh shit..this is WEIRD..dude...whoa.." etc. Who knows what he was seeing

 

[egor]

Dont give up on the sage just yet, as there seems to be a remarkable reverse tolerance. You will most likely get less than breakthrough effects the first few attempts. To get the best effects, do it in a quiet, low light and safe environment. Keep in mind also, that salvinorin burns at a higher temperature than most other smokeables, so using a torch lighter and a bong is the way to go. Finally, after your first breakthrough, you will require a much smaller ammount to get the same effect.

 

[Xorkoth]

You may be naturally tolerant to its effects; I am. It's also quite likely that you got your samples from a vendor who doesn't produce a very good extract. There are a lot of those. Obviously it contained some salvinorin-A, but it probably was not nearly as strong as was claimed.

 

[IAMTHOUGHTS]

sorces?

xorkoth: we cant even provide a web site that sells good "pure" and strong salvia extracts to the OP. even when salvia is legal???? or can we?


just asking...

[nope, sorry!]

 

[egor]

sorces?

xorkoth: we cant even provide a web site that sells good "pure" and strong salvia extracts to the OP. even when salvia is legal???? or can we?


just asking...

Even if it is a lega substance, still no sources. If you spend some time looking, it is not hard to figure out which ethnobotanical sites are the best