My friend who was neighbors with the guy at the forest bought a vile of it, took it home and we got it tested... Thats how I KNOW FOR SURE WHAT IT WAS bud. Sorry I wasn't clear...
I believe you actually had it tested just as much as I believe the news articles which confirmed pills tested at 25i
I feel bad for douches who stick up for these chems, I think your pretty misguided because you eat these dirty chemicals or you cant find the good ones.... Stick to REAL drugs dude, trust me..... Maybe you wont fry your brain... HAHAHAHAHA STICK UP FOR DIRTY RESEARCH CHEMS! GOOD LUCK WITH THAT BUD!
Its not about sticking up for the drugs themselves. Its more about pointing out the stupidity and ignorance of the (ab)user who ended up having a bad time and then wants to denounce the substance entirely. More on that later.
Eat family fluff lsd, that will change your mind forever. You will probably never come across Fluff or know what it is in your network.
Oh boy.
Your probably one of those dealers that passes those cheap ass designer drugs off as Lsd and Molly, In fact, I know you are since your so but hurt when I talk bad about them lol. you deserve to be dosed with a sheet of that shit, see how that makes you feel about 25i haha!
Actually no I am not a dealer. I'm your average working blue/semi-white collar north american who works hard for his living and enjoys learning and exploring in my 'off' time. I have a strong distaste for people who pass these drugs off as others, especially shit like 25i as acid when you know people are going to take multiple hits.
I deserve to be dosed with a sheet of 25i because I think its an enjoyable substance when used responsibly at self-established doses? You are something else.
Ive done my research, TRUST ME. None of what I said was "misguided ignorance"
Everything you've spouted off is pure ignorance. You are the poster child for the type of person bluelight and anyone in the responsible drug use community hates.
LSD is safe. You can take hundreds of thousands of hits at once without dyeing. There have been no reported medical deaths from LSD ever. Stick with the real shit!
Yes, you won't physically die after taking an excessive amount of hits at once. You can still snap into a permanent psychosis or end up with permanent HPPD effects though, just as you could after only one hit. You're right there haven't been any recorded deaths as a direct result of toxic effects from LSD. However, go back to the 60s and there sure were plenty.. interested no? They were later all deemed propaganda bullshit, and I quite honestly believe a large number of the news stories today about 25i et al to be entirely made up shit as well.
Your statement "stick with the real shit" implies that I (and others) are somehow on a hunt for an LSD replacement.. This is not the case at all for myself and a number of people here. There are always going to be those who just want to get high off of whatever they can get their hands on and may choose this stuff as a replacement, but for a large number of us here we enjoy the experimenting and feeling out the differences and intricacies of these newer compounds, heck there are even some who prefer 25i to the likes of LSD. Amazing no?
You mentioned "Molly" before, does this mean you use it? Would you go and take 20 pills of molly at once? Probably not right? Why? Because you know you'd probably die or at the very least end up in the hospital. I point this out because it highlights the hypocrisy in your case for LSD being "the real shit" or "better." I personally don't judge the qualitiy of a substance based on my ability to take a massive overdose and live. This is such a flawed argument its not even funny.
And it doesnt fry your brain. Everyone is effected differently by these compounds. All of my friends at the festival had the same amount as me and none of them were effected like I was. Its a gamble...
25i won't 'fry your brain' either if you use it responsibly. Yes everyone is effected different by these, and really
any compound. As I said, I feel for what you've gone through, its a really shitty thing to be passed off something as something else, but the way you come in here and denounce 25i as a whole and the way which you do it is absolutely asinine. You wouldn't get into a sports car, floor the pedal, close your eyes, and then when you got into an accident after go around to everyone you know denouncing sports cars as shit. Do I need to explain the metaphor to you?
I mentioned you before as the poster child for the type of people responsible drug users hate, and I say this because even if the substance you took was LSD, you would wildly and blindly just take a completely unknown amount from someone? Seriously? No 25i is not for drug users like you, not in the slightest, and its people like you just as much as it is people who pass off stuff as other shit who make drugs like 25i dangerous. Most of us here who take substances like these do so because it interests them, the chemistry, how novel the compound is, the fact that they're testing new waters and opening new possibilities, being the first and yes 'guinea pigs'.. I personally think no matter how you want to twist it, drug use is recreational and in many ways escapist even if you are using it for introspection and healing, but a lot of us don't just use drugs as a whole to get "high as fuck" without bounds. To many it is a hobby to be part of this community, to share experiences and guide others along safely.
25i has a steep response curve and things can go bad if you don't respect the compound.. it has shown to have a much smaller margin for error which I suppose makes it more inclined towards danger. I don't like the term dangerous because Tylenol can be dangerous, but you respect the limits of dose and stay within a safety threshold.
Personally while I enjoyed it, I wouldn't go giving it to any of my friends unless they took the time to establish that it was safe for them as well. I had a perfectly intense trip at 800ug, which is actually quite a lot less than some users were taking, I can only imagine if I jumped in at their doses my first time.. but no, I took a small ~50ug test, then 400ug, and then 800ug. People here will even chastise me for making such an abrupt jump from 400ug-800ug.
Anyway, I'm not trying to defend the drug or say its perfectly safe at any obscene dosage and it should be freely passed around and distributed as other shit.. just the dangers in proper dosing are one reason why I am personally totally against free distribution, I dont think a lot of people have the intellect to use something that can be so powerful and that goes for people like your friends 'neighbour' at the festival you were at, as well as you since you're the kind of person who just blindly takes unknown quantities of unknown substances.