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*Safety* Need help - Is MXE + alcohol different from ketamine + alcohol?

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Ekstasis-//7

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Hi,
I am hoping someone can help me with safety advice. I know ketamine is dangerous combined with alcohol. I knows first hand that even a tiny amount of ketamine combined with a drunk or tipsy individual can make them at risk of passing out and choking on vomit as ketamine seems to multiply the effects of alcohol and at the least leave them feeling sick. Also don't like to admit it but I know 1st hand that a drunk or tipsy individual is much more likely to fall and injure themselves when a small amount of ketamine is taken...

I have a safety question... Personally I have a acquired quite a high tolerance to alcohol due to drinking multiple times every week and sometimes daily drinking (which I am not proud of and probably at least partly due to anxiety & depression I'm struggling with). I recently have found that taking a small dose of MXE (around 15mg) does not multiply the effects of alcohol in me like I am used to previously when I felt sick, passed out or fell over an injured myself (stupidly combining K with alcohol). A year or more ago when I had not such a heavy tolerance to alcohol if I was to take even the smallest bump of ketamine while drunk or tipsy from alcohol I would we very nauseous and at risk of passing out. I have friends some of which are more safety conscious some of which are more reckless. I would like to be able to advise based on other people's experiences who have a fairly normal alcohol tolerance whether combining MXE with alcohol is any safer or just as dangerous as combining ketamine with alcohol. Obviously right now I find I can combine MXE with alcohol without the effects multiplying or making me sick and at serious risk of passing out and choking on vomit but I want to be sure before I advise any friends who may be drinking then think of taking a little MXE.

Thanks for your help.
 
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i don't like alcohol that much, but they will be fine with a low dose of MXE. i've taken benzos (mainly klonopin and xanax) with MXE and the benzos neither subtracted nor added to experience. the MXE will end up taking over the benzo/alcohol (depending on the doses)

what doses of MXE are you talking about, and how many drinks does your friend usually have a night?
 
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MXE and ketamine are quite closely related, though MXE probably mixes a lot nicer due to its stimulatory action I would utilize extreme caution in combining more than small amounts of the two drugs.
 
There are a couple of reports of strongly negative experiences with the combination, including (IIRC, can't find the posts now) people getting violent when combining MXE and alcohol - so... i'd have to council against this combination.
 
Yeah it is definitely best to be cautious - the trouble is, MXE is so new, all we have to go on is a few recent anecdotal reports. It's an unknown really - better to err on the side of caution I feel..
 
Sad isn't it? :(

Ketamine doesn't have the respiratory depression effects that a lot of downers have, but the risk of passing out and choking on your vomit is definitely an issue I guess... I don't find they mix well at all anyway, always makes me feel quite dysphoric..
 
most definitely, MXE is best alone ;)...maybe some weed though. makes the experience 10 times more intense..
 
I'm going to move this over to PD as there is a lot more information and general discussions on MXE and ketamine there. The posters will be more likely to have good information to share with you there.
 
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