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Safe to speedball with rolls and tar?

HeroInMyVeins

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I was wondering if it had some really bad effect. If I were to do it I'd be slamming pure MDMA powder with a small dose of tar.
 
Its generally a bad idea to mix uppers and downers. I wouldn't recommend taking them together. Maybe save the tar for after the roll for the comedown. But some people do like to have a bit of speed in their rolls. So for that I say hell yea go ahead, but consider dropping the coke because its been known to hinder the effects of MDMA quite a bit.
 
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1) how you KNOW it's pure powder? (just because a home test kit says there are no other active cuts in it does not mean it hasn't been cut with inactives: which could produce nasty results in your veins) If you're gonna IV it, I'd still filter that shit.

2) Your tar is gonna nullify your roll. Like Thizzlam-san said: save the H for the comedown.
 
Oh shit I totally missed that he said he'd be shooting....
OP that's a bad idea....for the exact reason that Blazif mentioned.
Unless you know for a fact that its pure and its been confirmed with reagent testing don't put that shit in your veins..
Also, you should give some of these threads a look over.
 
Yeah dude bad idea. Also, I think the MDMA would outshine the H especially if slammed. Save the H for after you come down off the roll.

I recommended just eating or snorting the MDMA, roll for a few hours, then slam the H.
 
I don't necessarily think this is a worse idea than speedballing with coke or meth. Obviously it's not exactly recommended as particularly healthy, but there's no particular risks of this specific combo that stand out. In fact, I'd say that given that MDMA is generally more pure than coke (though I only know that this is the case in the UK) it might even be less risky. Use a lower dose of both than you otherwise would, particularly the MDMA; I'd say 50mg would be the upper limit.
Use the search engine for the terms "IV MDMA", there's quite a few threads with useful info. The user Shambles is also very experienced with IV MDMA, you might want to drop him a PM. I don't IV, so the info I've given here is second-hand.
 
^As far as I know, the coke here in the US is a lot less pure than the MDMA here.
Tbh, that thought hadn't even crossed my mind.
 
Its generally a bad idea to mix uppers and downers. I wouldn't recommend taking them together. Maybe save the tar for after the roll for the comedown. But some people do like to have a bit of speed in their rolls. So for that I say hell yea go ahead, but consider dropping the coke because its been known to hinder the effects of MDMA quite a bit.

agreed. i used to do a shot after like 4 hours after.
 
Alright, decided to do the heroin alone. Seems to complicated.

And I didn't mean like pure pure. I mean like not a pill. Is MDMA safe for shooting at all?
 
Ummmm I really wouldn't recommend it....
You do realize that it's way easier for dealers to mess with powders right?
Pills get to the dealers in pill form. Hard to cut down and sell successfully... Where as powders can be cut all to hell by anyone who touches it....
Just keep that in mind.

And have you checked out the search engine yet? As Yerg mentioned above, just try a search for IV MDMA
 
Alright, decided to do the heroin alone. Seems to complicated.

And I didn't mean like pure pure. I mean like not a pill. Is MDMA safe for shooting at all?

Is anything 'safe' for shooting?

MDMA can be used for injecting the same way as any other drug - you simply need to keep the dose low and follow your usual safe injecting methods.

Obviously dealers can bash/cut/mix their products with other substances - this needs to be taken into consideration before injecting (same with H, coke etc)

This thread may help you
 
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Is anything 'safe' for shooting?

MDMA can be used for injecting the same way as any other drug - you simply need to keep the dose low and follow your usual safe injecting methods.

Obviously dealers can bash/cut/mix their products with other substances - this needs to be taken into consideration before injecting (same with H, coke etc)

seriously.
 
Ummmm I really wouldn't recommend it....
You do realize that it's way easier for dealers to mess with powders right?
Pills get to the dealers in pill form. Hard to cut down and sell successfully... Where as powders can be cut all to hell by anyone who touches it....
Just keep that in mind.

And have you checked out the search engine yet? As Yerg mentioned above, just try a search for IV MDMA

You never answered his direct question....he was only asking if MDMA was safe to shoot, not for you to give him a lecture on how powder can be unpure. OF course he fucking knows this if he's copping dope.
 
Try reading the first line dude.
"I wouldn't recommend it" usually means don't do it.
 
No one with harm reduction in their mind would recommend IV'ing anything, but you never actually answered his query.

What exactly are you bringing to the discussion?

Nobody has recommended IV'ing anything - NOT has said that mixing uppers and downers arent a good Idea.

Maybe we dont know how injecting MDMA and then injecting heroin will go so were giving what advice we can.
 
No one with harm reduction in their mind would recommend IV'ing anything, but you never actually answered his query.

If you have a problem with how I answered his question then you get on google, do some research, and report back. It's a lot more constructive than criticizing my answer and it makes you look a little more intelligent.
 
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