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Harm Reduction safe to inject 10ml water in rapid succession?

Toz

Toz

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Yea I just wondered if it's safe to inject 10ml water as quickly as possible (will be using a 26g needle probably) into a vein or if I need to take it slow. Never used that much water but I'm filtering 20 pills for injection so I need it.
 
this doesn't sound safe. injecting 20 pills at once seems reckless, but yeah take it slow. I'd say 10 seconds per 1 ml.

i just looked up that drug. 100mg sounds like a lot. from what i could find in a quick google search 100mg would be like doing 200+ mg of morphine. please dont die, start small.
 
wiggi said:
You used way to much water man. Source.
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You are not accounting for fillers etc that cloggs filters if you use less water. It leaves so much residue it's hard to get the solution through cotton even with less than 1ml/pill.

Also with this method I could filter 3 pills at a time, still takes 2 hours. Otherwise it would take forever and I wouldn't even bother.
 
down508 said:
this doesn't sound safe. injecting 20 pills at once seems reckless, but yeah take it slow. I'd say 10 seconds per 1 ml.

i just looked up that drug. 100mg sounds like a lot. from what i could find in a quick google search 100mg would be like doing 200+ mg of morphine. please dont die, start small.
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Analgesic dosage is not the same as euphoric dosage. Ketobemidone does not cause the respiratory depression that morphine/heroin does. It's much more benign in that department.

Oh yea I also got the killer tolerance :p

wiggi said:
With something with so much binders, why don't you use a micron filter?
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I still need to cotton filter everything first, micron will be done last. Otherwise it will just clog and not work at all.

down508 said:
then you should squirt the filtered solution onto a plate let it dry and then add 1-2 ml and inject that.
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Yea I might do that actually, not going to be done today anyway since I'm going to bed in a few minutes.

Well, all I really wanted answered was if it was ok to inject 10ml water and it seems ok. So I guess my question is answered.
 
You always filter using a cotton before using a micron filter the majority of the time.

It would be hard to let the liquid evaporate overnight in a remotely sterile manner.
 
IME more than 3 or so mL of water will give me a "water headache" ie all over aches and pains, headache, and just feeling crappy. You can correct this by using saline solution instead so it doesn't mess up your electrolytes.
 
try putting it on a glass plate then put that over a pot of boiling water. thats how my old dealer used to cook k and it didn't take too long either,
 
^jesus this title made me cringe, please don't push it too fast YOU WILL BLOW THE VEIN. For a 10mL injection, and the only thing I have EVER injected using such a large quantity of water is morphine sulphate, I would administer it like this:


iso swab, insert & register, push down slowly on the plunger as you count out loud "one-two-three-four-five." then withdraw the needle and apply hygienic pressure to the injection site. This should hypothetically yield a flow rate of 2mL/second, which is ALREADY A LOT so you should consider going even slower. You are using an obscene amount of water for the opioid you're using in question...

wiggi said:
You always filter using a cotton before using a micron filter the majority of the time.

It would be hard to let the liquid evaporate overnight in a remotely sterile manner.
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Seriously.... I mean I can understand down508s advice being acceptable if the OP were SNORTING, but for injection? You don't ever inject something that's been exposed to the elements overnight... No.... Just.... so no...
 
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tricomb said:
iso swab, insert & register, push down slowly on the plunger as you count out loud "one-two-three-four-five." then withdraw the needle and apply hygienic pressure to the injection site. This should hypothetically yield a flow rate of 2mL/second, which is ALREADY A LOT so you should consider going even slower. You are using an obscene amount of water for the opioid you're using in question...



Seriously.... I mean I can understand down508s advice being acceptable if the OP were SNORTING, but for injection? You don't ever inject something that's been exposed to the elements overnight... No.... Just.... so no...
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I know the amount of water is obscene nevertheless it is vital if I am going to get the pills into solution without losing half of the drug due to cottons clogging up from binders. Maybe my title was a little misleading, it's not like I'm going to push the plunger down by force to get the drug into my system as quickly as possible. I was just wondering if it was bad injecting that much water in a short amount of time (even if I push the plunger down very slowly), not if I could inject it as fast as humanly possible without side effects.

I was more worried if adding that much water to the bloodstream so suddenly would result in some kind of chemical imbalance.

Either way I think my question is anwered, I will make the solution using NaCl 0.9% 10ml from a sterile ampoule, then filter as many times as needed through cotton, micron filter the final solution and then inject it slowly. Anyone have anything to add?
 
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I really doubt that 10mls of water will "throw your system off".....you could use sterile saline, which is what they use in 1000ml IV drips, they use these to hydrate people and give them IV B vitamins, drugs, etc....so IVing water isn't that big of a deal.....but using a syringe with 10ccs? You can tell by looking at it that it's a lot of water to push into a little vein! I would just go slowly while pushing the plunger down and stay steady so it doesn't come out of the vein....

I'd think you'd have to be especvially careful to stay in the vein doing something like this, because you may not feel it at all if the needle comes out of the vein.....

Of course, every time you draw back on the plunger to make sure you're still in, you run the risk of actually causing the needle to come out by playing around with it so much!

It's not SO MUCH water as to make it not worth IVing though, although I havre no friggin idea what the stuff your IVing is, I assume it's some kind of opioid because you guys were comparing it mg for mg to morphine....
 
Ketobemidone, its a rare as hell's teeth opioid.

Guy is one lucky SOB for being able to score the stuff, its very seldom used, in few countries.
 
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