casper1231
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i had a bad freak the first (which was also the most recient) on shrooms. i took 9 without knowing what to expect. would it be safe to try again with a lower dose. if so any suggestions?
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mdmantpa
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Im assuming 9 shrooms, which could be anything but im guessing around a 5-7grams which would be high for a first time...A good first time dose IMO is 1/16th of an ounce or about 2grams, some will say an 1/8th (3.5g) is better tho, however I will recommend going with 2g jsut to be safe since you already have had a bad trip. Also if you have any access to benzodiazepines I would suggest keeping one with you incase things go down hill again, you can pop a benzo and mellow your trip out real quick
Thank you for sharing with me about how much a single mushroom is, I've always really wanted to know this. Apparently 1.5g is a good estimate (9 mushrooms / 6 grams.) This will make my personal future experiences easier to plan out.
Never having shroomed before and being very anxious to have the experience, I myself planned to do exactly this and consume 1/16th (2g) of mushrooms. So obviously I agree that this may be a proper dosage for you, especially regarding your already negative experience.
I noticed that benzos were mentioned to help control a bad trip. Another suggestion might be taking an Adderall (or some time of amphetamine) maybe an hour to three hours before you intend on eating your mushrooms. I have read from trip reports that this often results in an interesting effect on your trip in that it is much more clear, crisp, and under control. There is a definite trade off for this extremely vivid trip, so if you plan on trying this method please do be aware that as Adderall is a stimulant (kind of the anti-psychedelic drug family per say) I can tell you from "drug knowledge" alone that it will result in a much less Psychedelic feeling in your trip resulting in less intense (albeit more vivid and crisp) visual hallucinations - which may be what you are looking for if you want to better control your anxiety and panic while tripping. The reports that I mentioned reading seem to verify this. Obviously because I have never before shroomed I can guarantee no such effect, but it may be worth a try for you.
casper1231
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what exactly are Benzodiazepines?
casper1231
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im a drug noob haha
fryingsquirrel
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Valium, xanax, klonopin, ativan, a shitload of similar
casper1231
Bluelighter
ill have to do some more research on it before the season. and do i take it if it gous bad ot before i fry?
phatass
Bluelighter
9 shrooms doesn't give any info on how much you took, some are tiny and really potent and some are bigger and no where nearly as strong
Jesusgreen
Bluelight Crew
^ This has to be mentioned. If this was cubes this could be anywhere from 3-6 grams, however for a first shroom trip that is a fairly substantial dose.
I find that my set and setting effect the positive or negative nature of a trip far more than what dose I take with psychedelics, I can take a huge dose and love it or I can take a tiny dose and think I'm going nuts - it depends on what I'm doing and where I am.
So, on that note, mind if I ask what you did/where you were/if you were around people on your last trip? A lot of people don't find shrooms/4-substituted tryptamines very social, and I could definitely see myself freaking out around people on my first time if I took a substantial dose. Also if you were anywhere other than the comfort of your own home that could add to it.
Benzodiazepines are prescription meds for anxiety and insomnia etc. If you are able to get them, as mdmantpa said, just keep a couple on hand in case things go pearshaped. Don't take them before you trip because, well, you won't trip. You'll probably just fall asleep before the shrooms can have an effect
But hey, even if you can't get any benzos, don't worry too much about that. Just have a much smaller dose of shrooms than you did for your first trip, and relax and take it easy. Make sure you trip with some close friends who you trust, and in a nice safe environment that you're familiar with. If you start to feel the trip going bad, just hang tight and remind yourself that it will wear off soon.
casper1231
Bluelighter
we have really potent ones here. cuz of the tropical storm we had.
casper1231
Bluelighter
bad environment, school...
casper1231
Bluelighter
i'd use ghb with the shrooms.
ghb??
casper1231
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Much better than anything else to make you chill and feel gooooood...
but what is it
PriestTheyCalledHim
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Don't eat shrooms at school or before you have to do something like go to work, drive, or be around other people who you wouldn't want to be around while on drugs. Also if you are depressed, anxious, stressed out don't eat them until that passes.
Take them with friends that are also going to be tripping and hopefully they've had experience with shrooms before.
Lots of people including myself enjoy listening to music while tripping and some people love to watch movies but I tried that once and while half baked was interesting it's more fun to go outside while tripping which we did later that night and some people love to trip in nature.
Eat 1-1.5g of dried shrooms or maybe 2.0g of dried shrooms if you've tripped before on excellent acid. Get a scale and measure them out, the whole 9 shrooms could be anything since mushrooms all weigh differently and they can be fresh or dried. Heh the 9 shrooms reminds me of how when I first heard about shrooms someone said to eat an 8th and I thought they meant take 8 mushrooms but that was when I was very young and before I learned the metric system.
Erowid.org has some excellent info on psychedelic mushrooms.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml
www.shroomery.org has lots of info about mushrooms too and there's a trip calculator based on dosage and "levels" there but I don't think it's that effective as everyone reacts to drugs differently and I have had a very spiritual and intense trip with ego fragmentation while on just 2.0g of dried mushrooms.
Some people use benzos to cancel out a bad trip on shrooms or acid.
This is GHB or a depressant known as gamma-hydroxybutyrate.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml
I've never taken it but when I was in HS this kid I knew had some but I didn't get any from him since I didn't know the purity, dose, or strength of the dose and you have to know that sort of stuff exactly. I know of a guy who drank way too much GHB and he died.
GHB isn't something you'd really want to take while tripping since shrooms can be sedating enough as it is with the heavy body load and I couldn't imagine why you'd want to take GHB or even drink lots of booze while tripping on them?
Take them with friends that are also going to be tripping and hopefully they've had experience with shrooms before.
Lots of people including myself enjoy listening to music while tripping and some people love to watch movies but I tried that once and while half baked was interesting it's more fun to go outside while tripping which we did later that night and some people love to trip in nature.
Eat 1-1.5g of dried shrooms or maybe 2.0g of dried shrooms if you've tripped before on excellent acid. Get a scale and measure them out, the whole 9 shrooms could be anything since mushrooms all weigh differently and they can be fresh or dried. Heh the 9 shrooms reminds me of how when I first heard about shrooms someone said to eat an 8th and I thought they meant take 8 mushrooms but that was when I was very young and before I learned the metric system.
Erowid.org has some excellent info on psychedelic mushrooms.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml
www.shroomery.org has lots of info about mushrooms too and there's a trip calculator based on dosage and "levels" there but I don't think it's that effective as everyone reacts to drugs differently and I have had a very spiritual and intense trip with ego fragmentation while on just 2.0g of dried mushrooms.
Some people use benzos to cancel out a bad trip on shrooms or acid.
This is GHB or a depressant known as gamma-hydroxybutyrate.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml
I've never taken it but when I was in HS this kid I knew had some but I didn't get any from him since I didn't know the purity, dose, or strength of the dose and you have to know that sort of stuff exactly. I know of a guy who drank way too much GHB and he died.
GHB isn't something you'd really want to take while tripping since shrooms can be sedating enough as it is with the heavy body load and I couldn't imagine why you'd want to take GHB or even drink lots of booze while tripping on them?
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casper1231
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Don't eat shrooms at school and take them with friends that are also going to be tripping and hopefully they've had experience with shrooms before.
Eat 1-1.5g of dried shrooms or maybe 2.0g of dried shrooms if you've tripped before on excellent acid.
Erowid.org has some excellent info on psychedelic mushrooms.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml
Some people use benzos to cancel out a bad trip on shrooms or acid.
This is GHB or a depressant known as gamma-hydroxybutyrate.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml
I've never taken it but when I was in HS this kid I knew had some but I didn't get any from him since I didn't know the purity, dose, or strength of the dose and you have to know that sort of stuff exactly. I know of a guy who drank way too much GHB by accident since someone spiked his drink with it and he died.
yea i leard school was bad.. thank you.