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Safe dose of heroin for noobie?

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HeroInMyVeins

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Usually I IV pills and stuff with set dosages. Like I shoot 4mg dilaudid when I have no tolerance. Idk how much heroin to shoot. I did it last night and threw up alot and still feel sick.

I heard it's a pretty potent batch. And it's powder unlike the usual tar I get for smoking.
 
HeroInMyVeins said:
Usually I IV pills and stuff with set dosages. Like I shoot 4mg dilaudid when I have no tolerance. Idk how much heroin to shoot. I did it last night and threw up alot and still feel sick.

I heard it's a pretty potent batch. And it's powder unlike the usual tar I get for smoking.
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If you threw up from doing it last night, then you should obviously do a smaller amount next time.

Strenght/purity varies from batch to batch, and also regionally, so it is not safe to tell you a certain amount to take.

All that can be said, is start out low, and work your way up. It may be better to sniff a small amount of it, and then determine its strength from there.

BlueLightBeam said:
Start off with .2 gram. See how that feels.
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That is a high starting dose for IVing. .05 can have you nodding hard, so I would say that this is dangerous advice.
 
Different experience for me, friend. Perhaps you get fire and I've never gotten real heroin? I'm aware of the idea of harm reduction, thank you.

Perhaps the OP can give us a better idea of what opiates he's done and what frequency. It's kind of hard to read his post. But if someone is shooting 4mg of dilaudid, than the normal 60-70% potent dope at .2 seems safe to me. Your experience seems to have varied.
 
BlueLightBeam said:
He says he shoots 4mg of dilaudid.
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Yea, 4mg dilaudid is not that high of a dose for people doing heroin. I definitely wouldn't say to IV .2 of dope because you can do 4mg dilaudid.

BlueLightBeam said:
Different experience for me, friend. Perhaps you get fire and I've never gotten real heroin? I'm aware of the idea of harm reduction, thank you.

Perhaps the OP can give us a better idea of what opiates he's done and what frequency. It's kind of hard to read his post. But if someone is shooting 4mg of dilaudid, than the normal 60-70% potent dope at .2 seems safe to me. Your experience seems to have varied.
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This is why you can't put a blanket statement saying .2 is fine. Perhaps the OP is getting fire dope. Like I said in my first post, the quality varies so much both regionally, and from batch to batch. This makes it difficult to recommend a starting dose of street heroin, and being that this harm reduction, we generally err on the side of caution, and consider that the OP may have fire dope.
 
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0.2g of the dope I get for a person that gets off on 4mg dilaudid would be dead instantly
 
IMO OP, if you have a scale at home that reads atleast .1g, measure out .1g and divide that into roughly fourths/quarters (eyeball it).. Should leave you roughly 25mg of diamorphine per pile. IV Dilaudid is roughly 3-4 times stronger on a mg/mg basis as heroin if I remember correctly, search some reliable conversion charts other than Wiki and you'll find exactly what dose of H would compare to your regular 4mg of hydromorphone. Remember, it's much easier to increase your dosage to your liking than it is to do too much from the get go. GL.
 
It would help to know where you're from so we can get an idea of the purity of the dope. It varies so much from region to region.

Where I am from (Seattle area) doing a point five shot of our tar for a newbie would be about perfect for sending you off to nodville. But our dope is significantly less potent than most dope, so it would be nice to get an idea what region your from.

If you're getting 70% pure dope like stuff from the NJ region, I think .2 would be a bit to much. I heard somewhere on Bluelight that .3 (three bags) of quality Jersey dope was about the same as 160mg of oxycodone, so if your comfortable banging about 100mg of oxycodone, then maybe .2 would be okay, but it might be a little strong.
 
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BlueLightBeam said:
Start off with .2 gram. See how that feels.
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Terrible advice, that's enough to kill somone if the dopes good. Even if it's just 50% pure that's 100mg's, which is a good dose for somone with a tolerance. But not for a noobie. And if it's fire, then he's a goner.

Start with a fucking spec and work your way up from there. Just a little matchhead bump, then add more until you get high. You gotta test it out first. I'm sure you would about half of .1 or a quarter of that to start off.
 
Well always sniff ur dope first to get a general idea of the strength. But if your new to H always always start out with less because you can always take more but u can never take back what has already been done. But you can always check with your supplier or friend your getting it from on a recommended dose because they would have a better idea of the strength of the your product then we would.
 
.2 ? That's two bags, right? Yeah, that's not a dose I would recommend to a "heroin noobie." I would prefer to be overly-cautious than to do something stupid.

The first time I tried heroin, I took match head sized bumps until I got somewhere close to where I wanted to be, and this is with a 60 - 90 mg tolerance to oxycodone. (Needless to say, I learned soon enough that two bags would put me where I needed to be, but that wasn't without some experimenting first.)
 
.05 (Half a bag) if it gives you a bunch of tingling then tone it back. If not at all, maybe raise, wouldnt go above 1 bag at a time though untill you start to know. Its always better to start lower and increase then doing to much and ODing.
 
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