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it's not a disease you bonoboThere's no such thing as autism. It's a fake disease people make up to get attention.
it's a neurodevelopmental spectrum.
it's not a disease you bonoboThere's no such thing as autism. It's a fake disease people make up to get attention.
O I prolly meant Slovakia then when I was talking about the Schengen. Serbia got a mini Schengen in 2021You mean Hungary? I think that technically EU member states are required to join Eurozone if they qualify economically, but then the debt crisis happened with Greece and now maybe states that haven't adopted the Euro yet don't even want to.
Interestingly, Putin has accused Merkel of leading him on, that ultimately she had other loyalties and was never committed to the good faith between the countries.
sorry I didn't know you were autistic, no offense was meant (to the Austrians either)
but yeah they have always struck me as having social norms inconsistent with neighbours in the region. culture is often helpful in understanding political motives.
"All roads lead to Rome". I did some back tracing with names such as the Rothschild's family which is really the name Bauer and dates back to the 1700's. But it goes farther back to the money changers as talked about in Scripture in the KJV Holy Bible. I found a really good site yesterday on the lineage of this family but after an update it's been censored. So here is another which supports what you've said too:You do understand that Zionism is less than two centuries old, right? The Jesuits are five centuries old, and they were travelling the world and shaping the political order (globally) when literacy rates in the public was only about 20%. It is so obvious who has the upper hand in all this. It's all just a continuation of Rome at the end of the day, I mean half our bloody architecture and symbolism is openly Roman. It's not Jewish.
If you understand Jesus then you should understand 'Know them by their fruits' and what it means. One little book is not evidence of anything. Protocols, the Rosicrucian manuscripts, whatever. Especially when the author is mysteriously "unknown".
Who sits on a throne of gold, surrounded by gold, in a private sovereign city state? Which institution has a known history of power expansion and tyranny across the globe going back centuries? Know them by their fruits.
Dude, you are literally taking the word of one religious institution as the basis of evidence against another religion.. when the former has a demonstrable history of doing the exact thing I have continued to assert (here and elsewhere on BL), that of brainwashing people into thinking the Jews 'run the world'. This theme has been on-going for centuries with ghettos, pogroms, and all the rest. Jews are nothing more than a convenient scapegoat to disguise the crimes being committed by the church, because Jews happen to be the ones allowed to the be the money changers in the first place. Look at actual European history, it's all there. Rothschild dynasty is just a continuation of this theme, because people are fucking stupid and love the easy bait of Jew hate."All roads lead to Rome". I did some back tracing with names such as the Rothschild's family which is really the name Bauer and dates back to the 1700's. But it goes farther back to the money changers as talked about in Scripture in the KJV Holy Bible. I found a really good site yesterday on the lineage of this family but after an update it's been censored. So here is another which supports what you've said too:
You don't teach Canon Law, in Bavaria (a known Jesuit stronghold), unless you are a Jesuit. Even Encyclopaedia Britannica states he was a 'former' Jesuit. There is no such thing as a former Jesuit in the same way there is no such thing an a former CIA agent. They are both military intelligence agencies, the latter is (like all modern military intelligence agencies) directly modelled on the principles of the Jesuit Order!Adam Weishaupt (1748–1830) became professor of Canon Law and practical philosophy at the University of Ingolstadt in 1773. He was the only non-clerical professor at an institution run by Jesuits - WIki
So German guy asking: you're aware that Zionists were Jews that betrayed their comrades in order to survive right?It's not all Jews just the Zionist. I should've clarified that. I apologize. The Roman catholic church is part of the Synagogue of Satan with all the secret societies like the Jesuit order, Freemasons, Skull n bones, Bilderberg group and the Zionist among others in the shadows. Concerning the Protocols of Zion , whoever made this book, many of the protocols have came to pass. So there is some validity to this book.
Now on the statement of Christianity being the Synagogue of Satan I agree that all denominations are not of Christ. To denominate is to take on a lesser name. These churches are all reading from the same Bible/different version, but don't agree on sound doctrine. There is discord and division in all these churches when the KJV Holy Bible clearly states what is written, and in no need of interpretation. The true disciples of Christ are scattered among the nations for now. We don't step foot in churches but attend small gatherings like in the book of Acts. In today's language we are enemies of the state for following the unvarnished truth of the Gospel of Christ. I left the churches due to what was being preached was against what the Word of God said. Also the 501-C3 gov't tax status which limits what they can speak about or they loose their exemption. I hope this clarifies where I stand.
Can you cite where you got that information?So German guy asking: you're aware that Zionists were Jews that betrayed their comrades in order to survive right?
Jews that became members of the Jew-SS, etc. They were scared, so they gave their family and friends to the Nazis in order to survive.
After WW2 they were imprisoned or executed just like any other Nazis.
Yes, some Zionists fled, especially high ranking Zionists, but most were still later brought to justice by either Germany or Israel.
Are you confusing them with Ashkenasi? The Ashkenasi were no Zionists. The Nazis didn't kill Ashkenasi, they only killed Slavic Jews.
People like to talk about the 6 million Jews the Nazis killed, but forget the 26 million Slavs/Soviets we killed.
The holocaust was directed at Slavs first and foremost. And many of those Slavs were Jews.
Zionists were literally just people too scared to die, so they helped the Nazis find their family instead.
It's a word that today is being used to villify Jewish people. But there are no more Zionists, they are long dead.
Definitely not Zionists in power.
Zionism, Jewish nationalist movement that has had as its goal the creation and support of a Jewish national state in Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews (Hebrew: Eretz Yisraʾel, “the Land of Israel”). Though Zionism originated in eastern and central Europe in the latter part of the 19th century, it is in many ways a continuation of the ancient attachment of the Jews and of the Jewish religion to the historical region of Palestine, where one of the hills of ancient Jerusalem was called Zion.
In the 16th and 17th centuries a number of “messiahs” came forward trying to persuade Jews to “return” to Palestine. The Haskala (“Jewish Enlightenment”) movement of the late 18th century, however, urged Jews to assimilate into Western secular culture. In the early 19th century interest in a return of the Jews to Palestine was kept alive mostly by Christian millenarians. Despite the Haskala, eastern European Jews did not assimilate and, in reaction to tsarist pogroms, formed the Ḥovevei Ẕiyyon (“Lovers of Zion”) to promote the settlement of Jewish farmers and artisans in Palestine. A political turn was given to Zionism by Theodor Herzl, an Austrian journalist who regarded assimilation as most desirable but, in view of anti-Semitism, impossible to realize. Thus, he argued, if Jews were forced by external pressure to form a nation, they could lead a normal existence only through concentration in one territory. In 1897 Herzl convened the first Zionist Congress at Basel, Switzerland, which drew up the Basel program of the movement, stating that “Zionism strives to create for the Jewish people a home in Palestine secured by public law.” The centre of the movement was established in Vienna, where Herzl published the official weekly Die Welt (“The World”). Zionist congresses met yearly until 1901 and then every two years. When the Ottoman government refused Herzl’s request for Palestinian autonomy, he found support in Great Britain. In 1903 the British government offered 6,000 square miles (15,500 square km) of uninhabited Uganda for settlement, but the Zionists held out for Palestine.
At the death of Herzl in 1904, the leadership moved from Vienna to Cologne and then to Berlin. Prior to World War I, Zionism represented only a minority of Jews, mostly from Russia but led by Austrians and Germans. It developed propaganda through orators and pamphlets, created its own newspapers, and gave an impetus to what was called a “Jewish renaissance” in letters and arts. The development of the Modern Hebrew language largely took place during that period.
The failure of the Russian Revolution of 1905 and the wave of pogroms and repressions that followed caused growing numbers of Russian Jewish youth to emigrate to Palestine as pioneer settlers. By 1914 there were about 90,000 Jews in Palestine; 13,000 settlers lived in 43 Jewish agricultural settlements, many of them supported by the French Jewish philanthropist Baron Edmond de Rothschild.
Chaim Weizmann
Upon the outbreak of World War I, political Zionism reasserted itself, and its leadership passed to Russian Jews living in England. Two such Zionists, Chaim Weizmann and Nahum Sokolow, were instrumental in obtaining the Balfour Declaration from Great Britain (November 2, 1917), which promised British support for the creation of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The declaration was included in Britain’s League of Nations mandate over Palestine (1922).
In the following years the Zionists built up the Jewish urban and rural settlements in Palestine, perfecting autonomous organizations and solidifying Jewish cultural life and Hebrew education. In March 1925 the Jewish population in Palestine was officially estimated at 108,000, and it rose to about 238,000 (20 percent of the population) by 1933. Jewish immigration remained relatively slow, however, until the rise of Hitler in Europe. Nevertheless, the Arab population feared that Palestine would eventually become a Jewish state and bitterly resisted Zionism and the British policy supporting it. British forces struggled to maintain order in the face of a series of Arab uprisings. The strain of suppressing the Arab revolt of 1936–39, which was more extensive and sustained than earlier uprisings, ultimately led Britain to reassess its policies. In hopes of keeping the peace between Jews and Palestinian Arabs and retaining Arab support against Germany and Italy in World War II, Britain placed restrictions on Jewish immigration in 1939. The new restrictions were violently opposed by Zionist underground groups such as the Stern Gang and Irgun Zvai Leumi, which committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British and organized illegal Jewish immigration to Palestine.
The large-scale extermination of European Jews by the Nazis led many Jews to seek refuge in Palestine and many others, especially in the United States, to embrace Zionism. As tensions grew among Arabs and Zionists, Britain submitted the Palestine problem first to Anglo-U.S. discussion for a solution and later to the United Nations, which on November 29, 1947, proposed partition of the country into separate Arab and Jewish states and the internationalization of Jerusalem. The creation of the State of Israel on May 14, 1948, triggered an invasion by the neighbouring Arab countries that was soundly defeated by the Israeli army. (See Arab-Israeli War of 1948–49.) By the time armistice agreements were signed in 1949, Israel held more land than had been allotted to it under the UN partition plan. About 800,000 Arabs had also fled or been expelled from the area that became Israel. Thus, 50 years after the first Zionist congress and 30 years after the Balfour Declaration, Zionism achieved its aim of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine, but at the same time, it became an armed camp surrounded by hostile Arab nations, and Palestinian organizations engaged in terrorism in and outside Israel.
During the next two decades Zionist organizations in many countries continued to raise financial support for Israel and to encourage Jews to immigrate there. Most Jews, however, reject the view propagated by some very Orthodox Jews in Israel that the Jews outside Israel were living in “exile” and could live a full life only in Israel.
Good to know, wow. I'm sorry then, I wasn't aware that we use the word as something elseCan you cite where you got that information?
It definitely conflicts with what is on the following web site:
Encycpopedia Britanica
The "fog of war" creates many interpretations of what really occurred. I can't say for sure what happened because I wasn't there to see with my own eyes. But "Zionism" is alive and well even today. Here is "the world Zionist congress":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_CongressSo German guy asking: you're aware that Zionists were Jews that betrayed their comrades in order to survive right?
Jews that became members of the Jew-SS, etc. They were scared, so they gave their family and friends to the Nazis in order to survive.
After WW2 they were imprisoned or executed just like any other Nazis.
Yes, some Zionists fled, especially high ranking Zionists, but most were still later brought to justice by either Germany or Israel.
Are you confusing them with Ashkenasi? The Ashkenasi were no Zionists. The Nazis didn't kill Ashkenasi, they only killed Slavic Jews.
People like to talk about the 6 million Jews the Nazis killed, but forget the 26 million Slavs/Soviets we killed.
The holocaust was directed at Slavs first and foremost. And many of those Slavs were Jews - 6 million to be exact.
A tribe of converted Slavic Jews that don't have the blood of Moses.
Zionists were literally just people too scared to die, so they helped the Nazis find their family instead.
It's a word that today is being used to villify Jewish people. But there are no more Zionists, they are long dead.
Definitely not Zionists in power.
That last sentence doesn't make much sense to me? What do you mean exactly?The "fog of war" creates many interpretations of what really occurred. I can't say for sure what happened because I wasn't there to see with my own eyes. But "Zionism" is alive and well even today. Here is "the world Zionist congress":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_Congress
And the timeline:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Zionism
Also I see the Ashkenazi Jews such as the Rothschild family who even the Nazis left alone which makes my point with this family. Their power and wealth shielded them from as they funded both sides of the war and many other wars. They are the "money changers" which dates back to Biblical days.
Their name is really Bauer and the family crest "at the red shield" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews![]()
Rothschild family - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I've tried to find the digitized newspaper from the near end of the war where the Rothschild's said they would fund the allies if they would give a piece of the land of Palestine for the Jewish people. This is the link beware many articles are censored by blacking the page out: https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...ateFilterType=yearRange&page=2&sort=relevance
I've been though about 2 dozen articles al least on the "Rothschild" name and for 1946 especially they have censored these papers like the Southern Jewish weekly or the Jewish star. It was a great way to see the old papers uncensored a couple years ago. Anyway
the Zionist are alive and well all over the world. Also notice Hitler modeled his army like the Jesuit order?
If only we counted Mexico's cartel trade.Their is nothing inherently wrong with Mexico but it's population is 126.1 million compared to Russia's 143.4 million.
So it can hardly be said to have a strong economy in spite of being the largest nation on earth blessed with a vast amount of natural resources. It takes some really special governance to make so little from so much.
China and the US are the two super powers and it's very likely India will become a powerful nation although historically it has never sought to project power as China, the US and, formally, the USSR did.
So while it's certain that Russia will indeed increase it's trade with China, it's always going to be just A trade partner with China. China has no need of Russia.. Russian territory, yes; Russia as a nation, no.
Empires come and empires go. Russia is NOT the USSR.
BTW indeed Russia is the second largest exporter of arms. But the US is way ahead. France makes almost as much from arms exports as Russia does, but the key difference is that France exports many things.
That last sentence doesn't make much sense to me? What do you mean exactly?
The Nazis opposed the Jesuit order's principles.
I know of Ashkenasi and Rothschilds, and also that Nazi Germany did not kill many Ashkenasi Jews.
The Nazis did not see Ashkenasi as "Semites"/Jews, because they are the descendants of Khazars, so they saw them as Turkish.
The Ashkenasi that were killed by the third Reich were killed for their role
That last sentence doesn't make much sense to me? What do you mean exactly?
The Nazis opposed the Jesuit order's principles.
I know of Ashkenasi and Rothschilds, and also that Nazi Germany did not kill many Ashkenasi Jews.
The Nazis did not see Ashkenasi as "Semites"/Jews, because they are the descendants of Khazars, so they saw them as Turkish.
The Ashkenasi that were killed by the third Reich were killed for their role in society.
Actually Hitler made a deal with the Zionist Jews that not many people are aware of, proving that his intent was not to exterminate all Jews as we have been told.Yes, some Zionists fled, especially high ranking Zionists, but most were still later brought to justice by either Germany or Israel
The Ashkenazi benefited from this war by having leverage to create a new state.Are you confusing them with Ashkenasi? The Ashkenasi were no Zionists. The Nazis didn't kill Ashkenasi, they only killed Slavic Jews.
Because there's a political expediency by focusing on only one group's suffering.People like to talk about the 6 million Jews the Nazis killed, but forget the 26 million Slavs/Soviets we killed.
Because they had many spies in other countries including the US so they stole secrets and decided to unilaterally produce nuclear weapons covertly while refusing to admit they had said weapons or sign the non-proliferation treaty.My question is why is Israel a nuclear armed state?!
Actually Hitler made a deal with the Zionist Jews that not many people are aware of, proving that his intent was not to exterminate all Jews as we have been told.
Between 1933 -1939, he allowed the the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine. Known as the Haavara Agreement.
The agreement was controversial both within the Nazi party and in the Zionist movement.[23] As historian Edwin Black put it, "The Transfer Agreement tore the Jewish world apart, turning leader against leader, threatening rebellion and even assassination."[24] Opposition came from the mainstream US leadership of the World Zionist Congress, in particular Abba Hillel Silver and American Jewish Congress president Rabbi Stephen Wise.[25]Wise and other leaders of the Anti-Nazi boycott of 1933 argued against the agreement, narrowly failing to persuade the Nineteenth Zionist Congress in August 1935 to vote against it.[24]
The right-wing Revisionist Zionists and their leader Vladimir Jabotinsky were even more vocal in their opposition.[26] The Revisionist newspaper in Palestine, Hazit Haam published a sharp denunciation of those involved in the agreement as "betrayers", and shortly afterwards one of the negotiators, Haim Arlosoroff was assassinated.[24]
The camps were labor camps. Auschwitz had a swimming pool and a theater.What was Hitler's intent with the death camps and gas chambers if not to exterminate all Jews?
The camps were labor camps. Auschwitz had a swimming pool and a theater.
Seriously, are you actually trying to portray the Nazi regime as having some sort of beneficent side towards Jewish people. The agreement wound up in 1939.. hmmm I wonder why that would be? Could it possibly be because, that's when the war started and they just dropped all pretence, graduating from expulsion of Jewish people to just murdering them instead? Nah. Course not.Actually Hitler made a deal with the Zionist Jews that not many people are aware of, proving that his intent was not to exterminate all Jews as we have been told.
Between 1933 -1939, he allowed the the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine. Known as the Haavara Agreement.
I know personal attacks are not allowed here, but this is some delusional shit you're trying to put across. Honestly, I expect to find such retarded insinuations from derpy characters in South Park.The camps were labor camps. Auschwitz had a swimming pool and a theater.
You get jailed because they don't want fucking idiots trying to make ammunition out of nonsense and helping to put it into the gun barrels of other idiots who might decide to act on an irrational impulse.The gas chambers is a different story and cannot be discussed because you can be jailed for digging into the details of the official narrative.
And lovely showers I've heard.The camps were labor camps. Auschwitz had a swimming pool and a theater.
No I'm just after the facts. I believe the Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany. But there really is no evidence that he wanted them all exterminated.Seriously, are you actually trying to portray the Nazi regime as having some sort of beneficent side towards Jewish people. The agreement wound up in 1939.. hmmm I wonder why that would be? Could it possibly be because, that's when the war started and they just dropped all pretence, graduating from expulsion of Jewish people to just murdering them instead? Nah. Course not.
You can go there and ask to see it. A water reservoir was converted to a swimming pool which was used by the camp's staff.I know personal attacks are not allowed here, but this is some delusional shit you're trying to put across. Honestly, I expect to find such retarded insinuations from derpy characters in South Park.
Failed logic. You combat nonsense by having open debate and proving people wrong with the facts.You get jailed because they don't want fucking idiots trying to make ammunition out of nonsense and helping to put it into the gun barrels of other idiots who might decide to act on an irrational impulse.
Yes it is exactly evidence of that. There are people with solid, rational, scientific arguments that cast doubt on the official story. Should someone be jailed for offering a scientific argument? Again, only if hiding something.I love this one in particular. You see it as evidence of a conspiracy, but actually those laws exist because of people like you, for people like you. I'll argue the case that the law itself is ridiculous, in that people should be free to speak freely, but it's not evidence of a conspiracy.
Yes OK Catholic Church is corrupt, the "look over there" method doesn't work anymore.If you're looking for actual conspiracy surrounding WW2 and Jews, then you really need to investigate what the Vatican was doing before, during, and after the war. They are up to their fucking eyeballs in it. You might also like to do a bit of background research on anti-semitism, in particular in relation (again) to the Catholic church and going all the way back to Rome. This might help you understand why and how you have been guided into the well worn groove of anti-Semitism by those seeking to profit from the enterprise, and all the other fools who continue to take the low hanging bait.
Are you really? I don't think you are. To save time, here's twos birds with one stone:No I'm just after the facts. I believe the Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany. But there really is no evidence that he wanted them all exterminated.
A Jewish ghetto in Rome, several centuries old and maintained under direct control of the Papacy, where Jewish people were treated like dirt, in to which the Nazi Gestapo marched and forcibly detained/exported Jewish people back to Germany in order to be executed, all while Pope Pius XII said nothing. How do you square that with you assertion I quoted above then eh? Were they just taking them for a luxury retreat at Auschwitz work complex?The raid on the Roman Ghetto took place on 16 October 1943.[1] A total of 1,259 people, mainly members of the Jewish community—numbering 363 men, 689 women, and 207 children—were detained by the Gestapo. Of these detainees, 1,023 were identified as Jews and deported to the Auschwitz concentration camp. Of these deportees, only fifteen men and one woman survived.
The Ghetto of Rome had been established in 1555. By the time of the raid, it was almost 400 years old and consisted of four cramped blocks around the Portico d’Ottavia, wedged between the Theatre of Marcellus, the Fontana delle Tartarughe, Palazzo Cenci, and the river Tiber.[2]
Your pathetic attempts, like all Jewish conspiracy mongers, completely falls flat in the face of known history about the demonstrable evil perpetrated by the Catholic Church. I can lay on mountains of evidence to support my case that the church was (and still is) not only evil but right at the core of the worlds issues. You have the square root of fuck all and nothing but baseless anti-Semitic nonsense. You don't even know basic history, twisting and distorting it in a vain attempt to support your case - don't fucking pretend your insinuations about the Auschwitz 'swimming pools' were for staff recreation, that's not how you were framing it.Yes OK Catholic Church is corrupt, the "look over there" method doesn't work anymore.