Russia has blacklisted Erowid and is now blocked while RAMP increases in popularity.

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Just curious, what will happen to Bluelight due to it having a ".ru" internet country code?
Russia just banned Erowid but Russia’s version of Silk Road is growing fast


A Russian law passed in November 2012 aimed at blacklisting sites promoting drug use has apparently just blocked the popular drug education website Erowid.org for certain users in the country according to a post on Reddit. A Russian government site listing prohibited sites shows that Erowid was added to the register earlier this month and was blocked on February 23. Russian user GreatfulListener says it is only “a matter of time” before the block affects more Russian internet service providers.

Erowid remains available in Russia via the Tor network. In fact, the Russian Tor community has undergone significant growth over the last year. RAMP, the Russian Anonymous MarketPlace, is now providing a leading Russian alternative to the English-speaking Silk Road.

RAMP, founded in early 2012, boasts 5,867 members on its forums. Silk Road, the center of great media attention, has 54,247 members while Black Market Road, a quiet but strong success, has 4,495 members.

The culture of the place is somewhat similar to Silk Road. In fact, many of the customers seem to use both marketplaces.

Forum discussions touch on important topics such as sales, safety and scam reports. Transactions are handled in a distinctly simple way: instead of a programmed escrow system reminiscent of Silk Road, RAMP operates through emails. A customer can use the RAMP’s escrow (which takes 5% off the top for the site’s operators) by emailing the site’s owners or a customer has the option todeal with the vendor directly.

RAMP’s two owners are a couple of Russians named Darkside (who handles customer and vendor relations) and Orange (who handles design and the backend of the site).

ramp-passionRAMP makes much of its income through advertising. After a user buys a vendor account for 5 bitcoins (currently $150), they can purchase sticky topics for one month (3 BTC), two months (5 BTC) or 3 months (7 BTC). Banners on the top of the site costs 10 BTC per month. The user Passion is currently advertising the sale of fentanyl (seen to the right). 1 gram costs 1400 Rubles ($45).

Unlike Silk Road and Black Market Reloaded, several vendors accept payment in WebMoney (a Russian e-commerce company serving a number of currencies) in addition to Bitcoins. RAMP also has a thread dedicated to reviewing Silk Road vendors who can service Eastern Europe.

Some RAMP vendors have an awfully interesting way of delivering their product:

If you’re in the Moscow area, Passion will make a “drop” in an out of the way place (such as an abandoned building) within 24 hours of a purchase and send the customer the coordinates on Google Maps. It’s up to the customer to make the pick up. It’s a decidedly old school twist on the new online drug marketplace that comes with several obvious potential downfalls. On the bright side, the drop can save time if you’re in a fix: you can potentially get your drugs on the same day you place your order. Muscovites have all the luck!

Like every anonymous marketplace, RAMP is not without scammers and problems. In fact, the most viewed thread is about a Doctor Om, a Moscow-based vendor who offered hashish, amphetamines and other drugs. Om hasn’t delivered product to dozens of customers for several weeks now, prompting many to call him the site’s worst scammer. It’s unclear at this time just how much money was involved in the transactions but it’s safe to say thousands of dollars are at stake.

If RAMP is Russia’s smaller and stranger Silk Road, the Shop of Magic Products (seen below) seems to hope to take its own place as the region’s version of Black Market Reloaded, a quiet, well-run and relatively uninhibited market for vendors of many goods. The site has been around since at least October 2012 but has never been able to pick up much momentum. Today, it offers various forged documents as well as a handful of drugs but activity has slowed to a crawl and the website is subject to regular errors. Bro, the man behind SMP, has a lot of work ahead of him if he hopes to compete with RAMP for customers.

http://weirderweb.com/2013/02/26/ru...russias-version-of-silk-road-is-growing-fast/
 
It's funny that via the TOR network, you can still get on Erowid in Russia.

Effectively, blacklisting Erowid is now teaching all of these Russians how to get onto TOR, consequentially getting them into the world of mail order drugs.

I wonder what would happen if this took place in the US. =D
 
It's funny that via the TOR network, you can still get on Erowid in Russia.

Effectively, blacklisting Erowid is now teaching all of these Russians how to get onto TOR, consequentially getting them into the world of mail order drugs.

I wonder what would happen if this took place in the US. =D

I wonder if they have a harm encouragement forum kinda like bluelight but the opposite.
 
Isn't it just a DNS blockade?
If so, change the DNS server to a non-.ru server or use a simple web proxy...

I don't understand the meaning.. Erowid isn't glorifying or promoting drug use, they are practicing harm reduction FFS.

I sure hope bluelight isn't affected
 
I thought BL was actually hosted in the Nederlands but the domain is Russian.


Also...


In Soviet Russia, harm reduce you!
 
I wonder how much actual fentanyl is in that Russian made in a black market lab $45 gram there actually is. Even if it's like 5% pure that's still a hell of a deal. I thought these sites were supposed to be overpriced. I guess not in Russia eh?
 
silly technofascists.

Every new generation knows more about the internet and how to subvert these cat/mouse tactics.

Id wager they're a good bit more warm about an unrestrained, uncensored internet too.

let the dumbshits dig they're graves. People are becoming increasingly smarter at walking around them.

Tis a shameful waste of public assets/resources though. but hey im from the states, so nothing surprising there.
 
Erowid responds:

Russia has reportedly banned online drug encyclopedia Erowid.org, under a new law aimed at blacklisting websites believed to promote pedophilia, suicide or drug use. Billed as a "a member-supported organization providing access to reliable, non-judgmental information about psychoactive plants, chemicals, and related issues," the site contains an autonomous online library, like a Wikipedia of drugs. According to a post and screenshot on Reddit, the site is the latest casualty of Russia's "very strong anti-drug mentality." Earth, Erowid's chief software engineer, tells The Fix: "This is the first we know of a major country officially blocking Erowid.” Many of the site's users are up in arms, claiming that access to reliable information is vital to helping "responsible drug users" to stay safe. "No fucking drug addict goes on Erowid to see what drug they are taking," says a commenter. "You know who does? Responsible drug users who want to be safe. This will only result in more drug use and injuries. I guarantee the number of overdoses will increase because of this." Earth agrees, saying blocking the site will only increase "access only to bad information." Plus, he says, the move is futile. “There is nearly endless information about psychoactive plants and drugs on the Internet," he says. "It long ago became impossible to stop people from accessing this sort of information online.”

Some commenters believe that a lack of access to good information has contributed to widespread use of “krokodil," a popular and dangerous drug that reportedly rots users' flesh. Despite Erowid's take down, online drug market Russian Anonymous MarketPlace (the country's version of Silk Road), continues to thrive. Earth believes that his site was banned because it's an easier target, compared to more technologically savvy, profit-driven drug markets. Regardless, he says the site has no intentions of stopping their educational work. “We're disappointed to hear that Russia as a country may have banned Erowid,” he tells The Fix. “We will continue to provide resources and suggestions for how Russian users can access reliable information about psychoactive drugs, just as we do for doctors and other health care professionals who are forced to work with poorly-considered and poorly-implemented website blocking on hospital networks around the United States.”

http://www.thefix.com/content/russia-blacklists-drug-wikipedia-erowid91343
 
It's not a 1 gram of fentanyl for 45$, it's fent+glucose mix and it's only about 4-5 doses in that gram.
Also about this community vendors there are not actually producers, most of them resell drugs from silkroad or chinese labs, russia have a great amount of high-skilled clandestine chemists(i'm sure that some of them have accounts here), but not on that site - there you can find only resellers.
 
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